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Strela
Netherlands1896 Posts
On January 04 2015 18:13 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote: Perfect expample, that Blizzard did terrible job with StarCraft 2! :E but, glad this guy is still around  !Just because someone can't make the transition to a new game or doesn't have the skill for it, it doesn't mean blizzard did a bad job or that sc2 is a bad game. | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On January 05 2015 03:28 broodwar2.0 wrote: cant tell if trolling or rly stupid T_T to answer youre question : no we cant get along why ?: obvious reasons why well... first off its not really a thing of preference since there is none to choice from blizzard killed broodwar pro scene as you might know thus the ex-bw pros were forced playing a game with a low skill ceiling game compared to the old one in witch their skill level didn shine true so for obvious reasons its not much fun its something almost all retired ex-bw pro's have stated when they retire the game simply doesnt offer interesting challenging gameplay that one would enjoy playing /practicing 10H aday (even blizzard acknowledged they need to increase more challenging gameplay on highest levels of play) so ofcourse hardcore fans who followed their heros from day 1 like Fantasy/Jeadong/Flash see them perform so poorly because the skill ceiling is to low for them. Fans are really angry when you see these incredibly talanted players of the modern bw area (last 5 years) suddenly become jobless its wasted talent, this is one of the reasons why bw is rising again and SSL and KSL are so populair brood war was incredibly populair e-sport nr1 and it was not its time to be killed-off mate please, stop being such an elitist. and that is from brood war player. on topic: holy shit I can't wait to see him play in ssl, may the messia save the zergs:D | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Which makes even less sense considering he retired from sc2 cause of his now dead mother (RIP). It is the obvious choice to stream BW on afreeca after you retire from professional sc2 gaming, that way these players have a "relaxed" life till they need to go to the military. Personally i think it's great to have effort in BW, not enough top zerg players for my liking atm, effort should be able to do well i think | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On January 05 2015 04:15 Strela wrote: Just because someone can't make the transition to a new game or doesn't have the skill for it, it doesn't mean blizzard did a bad job or that sc2 is a bad game. I think what people mean is BW: GODLIKE game design. SC2: QUESTIONABLE game design. No need to bash SC2, it's alright as a competitive game, but it would never replace BW in our hearts. When KeSPA switched to it, everyone was throwing "just get used to it, bro. Your all-time favorite game is old, with graphics that won't appeal to modern esports fans, and extremely difficult to play on its own on top of that. Wait before the game is polished before judging and don't stand between people and progress" at us, but dark ages past and now we are so so happy we don't care about anything else anymore. | ||
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Lazare1969
United States318 Posts
Blizzard made the right business choice, just like with Diablo 3. With Starcraft Broodwar, Blizzard hardly made any money because of the rampant piracy (due of LAN and private servers), and the very low selling price of the game. Guys, someone has to pay for Bobby Kotick's yacht and Mike Morhaime's mansion. Money doesn't grow on trees, it comes from you, the customers. If I was the CEO of Blizzard, I would do whatever it takes to cash in on the Starcraft name, by making a piracy-proof sequel that is intended to replace the poorly-earning original game. As CEO of Blizzard, I would do whatever it takes to convince my customers that they don't really need LAN, and that we are truly committed on providing an excellent gameplay experience to the fullest extent of our PR campaigning. | ||
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rift
1819 Posts
On January 05 2015 04:25 Lazare1969 wrote: Complaining about SC2 and Blizzard's actions is totally pointless because it was all inevitable. Blizzard made the right business choice, just like with Diablo 3. With Starcraft Broodwar, Blizzard hardly made any money because of the rampant piracy (due of LAN and private servers), and the very low selling price of the game. Guys, someone has to pay for Bobby Kotick's yacht and Mike Morhaime's mansion. Money doesn't grow on trees, it comes from you, the customers. If I was the CEO of Blizzard, I would do whatever it takes to cash in on the Starcraft name, by making a piracy-proof sequel that is intended to replace the poorly-earning original game. As CEO of Blizzard, I would do whatever it takes to convince my customers that they don't really need LAN, and that we are truly committed on providing an excellent gameplay experience to the fullest extent of our PR campaigning. List of best-selling PC games: StarCraft - 11 million, 5th all time StarCraft 2 - 6 million | ||
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broodwar2.0
Niue229 Posts
On January 05 2015 04:25 Lazare1969 wrote: Complaining about SC2 and Blizzard's actions is totally pointless because it was all inevitable. Blizzard made the right business choice, just like with Diablo 3. With Starcraft Broodwar, Blizzard hardly made any money because of the rampant piracy (due of LAN and private servers), and the very low selling price of the game. Guys, someone has to pay for Bobby Kotick's yacht and Mike Morhaime's mansion. Money doesn't grow on trees, it comes from you, the customers. If I was the CEO of Blizzard, I would do whatever it takes to cash in on the Starcraft name, by making a piracy-proof sequel that is intended to replace the poorly-earning original game. As CEO of Blizzard, I would do whatever it takes to convince my customers that they don't really need LAN, and that we are truly committed on providing an excellent gameplay experience to the fullest extent of our PR campaigning. we all know how commercialism works so,, nobody is surprised they killed of bw to give sc2 a better start so.. obviously it still pissed of fans of sc bw i could have an hour rant on how poorly choices are made by blizzard falling for the mainstream gamers and how it some of their ''succes'' is also backfiring in many ways but who cares about a casual mainstream game maker nowardays | ||
afreecaTV.Char
United States337 Posts
My friend didn't go to University this year to get his military service done. He's been waiting for almost 8 months and still doesn't have a clear start date. | ||
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PharaphobiaSC2
Czech Republic85 Posts
On January 05 2015 04:25 Lazare1969 wrote: Complaining about SC2 and Blizzard's actions is totally pointless because it was all inevitable. Blizzard made the right business choice, just like with Diablo 3. With Starcraft Broodwar, Blizzard hardly made any money because of the rampant piracy (due of LAN and private servers), and the very low selling price of the game. Guys, someone has to pay for Bobby Kotick's yacht and Mike Morhaime's mansion. Money doesn't grow on trees, it comes from you, the customers. If I was the CEO of Blizzard, I would do whatever it takes to cash in on the Starcraft name, by making a piracy-proof sequel that is intended to replace the poorly-earning original game. As CEO of Blizzard, I would do whatever it takes to convince my customers that they don't really need LAN, and that we are truly committed on providing an excellent gameplay experience to the fullest extent of our PR campaigning. Show me the moves with SC2 did to increace sells please ? | ||
Kau
Canada3500 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On January 05 2015 04:20 ForTehDarkseid wrote: I think what people mean is BW: GODLIKE game design. SC2: QUESTIONABLE game design. No need to bash SC2, it's alright as a competitive game, but it would never replace BW in our hearts. When KeSPA switched to it, everyone was throwing "just get used to it, bro. Your all-time favorite game is old, with graphics that won't appeal to modern esports fans, and extremely difficult to play on its own on top of that. Wait before the game is polished before judging and don't stand between people and progress" at us, but dark ages past and now we are so so happy we don't care about anything else anymore. This is the best post on TL. also, effort, fuck yeah | ||
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Falling
Canada11375 Posts
If you as a bw fan take good news like Effort coming back and turn it into a stab against SC2, then maybe you are against more than you are for. It's a low blow when you are riding a win to take a shot at ones who took a loss. For myself, I am very glad to see Effort return to the fold. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
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_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On January 05 2015 04:15 Strela wrote: Just because someone can't make the transition to a new game or doesn't have the skill for it, it doesn't mean blizzard did a bad job or that sc2 is a bad game. Its not about that, Blizzard killed starcraft scene in korea with SC2, NOBODY wants to watch sc2, halls are empty and vewer count is embarrasingly low (ogn admited it a year ago), thats what they did by replacing bw with sc2! Again im talking about Korea and im angry cuz they killed such great passionate scene to leave nothing afterwards. I and not only me for sure wouldve understand if sc2 was going strong and players wasnt leaving so much in dissapointment, thats destroyed careers and dreams of people you know. | ||
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Falling
Canada11375 Posts
On January 05 2015 06:28 _Animus_ wrote: Its not about that, Blizzard killed starcraft scene in korea with SC2, NOBODY wants to watch sc2, halls are empty and vewer count is embarrasingly low (ogn admited it a year ago), thats what they did by replacing bw with sc2! Again im talking about Korea and im angry cuz they killed such great passionate scene to leave nothing afterwards. I and not only me for sure wouldve understand if sc2 was going strong and players wasnt leaving so much in dissapointment, thats destroyed careers and dreams of people you know. Then be happy that good things are happening to bw again. Three years is a long time to remain angry and doesn't really change anything except to make yourself personally miserable. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On January 04 2015 16:48 Elyvilon wrote: He came back to professional bw before, after a year (or year and a half break) and immediately was one of the best zergs. I think hes just one of those players that can retain skill. We shall see.I mean, EffOrt was a great player, but he hasn't played BW seriously, if at all, in 3 years. He certainly has the potential to be one of the best again, but let's not crown him too early, okay? | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On January 04 2015 18:44 ForTehDarkseid wrote: It's not about accomplishments, it's about style of play. The rule is universal: those who have best ZvT, are the best Zergs in Starcraft. im sorry to inform you zvz trumps all the zvts in the world | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1978 Posts
On January 05 2015 06:28 _Animus_ wrote: Its not about that, Blizzard killed starcraft scene in korea with SC2, NOBODY wants to watch sc2, halls are empty and vewer count is embarrasingly low (ogn admited it a year ago), thats what they did by replacing bw with sc2! Again im talking about Korea and im angry cuz they killed such great passionate scene to leave nothing afterwards. I and not only me for sure wouldve understand if sc2 was going strong and players wasnt leaving so much in dissapointment, thats destroyed careers and dreams of people you know. I agree, but it is not part of the topic. People should focus on the topic though. There is no reason for bashing sc2 in this thread. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On January 05 2015 03:28 broodwar2.0 wrote: User was temp banned for this post. Good riddance. Also, Effort, Effort! One of my favourite pro-gamers | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1657 Posts
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