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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On January 13 2015 06:23 Phyanketto wrote: I honestly just think that people feel more betrayed because Savior was a bonjwa and people had a lot of trust/respect for him. i think its more about the fact he was somewhat of a ringleader and fucked others up and made more than any other with that shit than anything having to do with his skill level | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
I would rather rage at people who actually kinda know what's up. I mean, what good does it do if you yell at a wall? | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On January 13 2015 06:22 Iplaythings wrote: Hwasin wasn't the one who bought people into it, Hwasin just threw a ro8 vs Kal with the "justification" that he doubtfully woulda won regardless, similar to upmagic who fixed a match in the STX cup, under the "justification" that it wasn't a kespa sancitoned match and hardly mattered. People are mainly angry at the ringleaders (like savior or justin iirc), rather than the small time fixers who were easier to forgive. hwasin is pretty forgiveable for two reasons: hwasin's completely admitted his fault and how badly he fucked up he had enough self respect to move on with his life and earn a living outside of playing starcraft even if his past/reputation caused him grief in the military and in public his words and actions reflect genuine remorse | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
On January 13 2015 06:56 Gamegene wrote: hwasin is pretty forgiveable for two reasons: hwasin's completely admitted his fault and how badly he fucked up he had enough self respect to move on with his life and earn a living outside of playing starcraft even if his past/reputation caused him grief in the military and in public his words and actions reflect genuine remorse Ok I'm finally going to take the bait. Being genuine in words doesn't matter in this case. You can be genuinely say sorry to the fans but still go ahead and earn money through BW if they wanted. Whether Savior feels genuinely sorry for his past actions or not, nobody will know. What we know is that Hwasin feels enough regret to not earn money via BW, while Savior is still earning money. Who knows, maybe Savior really feels sorry for what he did. But it doesn't change the current (post-matchfixing) actions and to many, that alone implies Savior just lied. Actions > Words. Anyone can say they're "really sorry". Remember the Korean Air Nut incident? Yeah | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/474546-effort-returns-to-brood-war?page=10#199 | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
On January 13 2015 07:13 Gamegene wrote: hey man i don't disagree about savior; i just have some sympathy for hwasin. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/474546-effort-returns-to-brood-war?page=10#199 I wasn't trying to get at you for having sympathy for hwasin, I was just trying to point out that actions speak a lot more than their words at this point. And I understand. I also have (abit very small) soft spot for people like hwasin and gogo. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9556 Posts
If you want to discuss EffOrt streaming, go here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/473941-effort-streaming-bw | ||
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