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Kau
Canada3500 Posts
On January 05 2015 18:50 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 18:19 zeo wrote:On January 05 2015 09:32 Masheyoon wrote: Amusingly, what happened three years ago appears to be happening now, only it's SC2 that's fading and BW emerging.
The bitterness people feel towards Blizzard is understandable. What Mike Morhaime said directly after the final OSL was appalling (Paraphrased: "Brood War's departure is a good thing and will help pave way for SC2."). Instead of appearing impressive in the eyes of many by having a video game that has stood the test of time, Blizzard now appears greedy, selfish and entirely dumb in the eyes of everyone for killing it off in trying to make SC2 as successful as possible. They could have, you know, continued to support both games.
You made me remember that Morhaime speech  I can't believe people actually think that the Savior fiasco 'killed' BW, yeah it hurt the scene but it come nowhere close to Blizzard actively trying to shut down and hijack the BW esports scene so 'esports' could be used as a marketing tool for SC2. Edit: On the topic of Effort, I always liked him more than Jaedong. Can you provide some sources for this? I mena any official annoucments etc. I would love to thorw this in blizzard face 
What does this even mean? Throw in Blizzard's face? Don't stir up shit please. Everyone just stop posting about Blizzard and SC2 in this thread.
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I posted it already somewhere, but do you guys think Effort might participate in the next LoveTV league? It's kinda silent about it though, i hope we will get soon some news :/
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Finally! I do hope he is one of the five (still, right?) unnamed, TBA zerg players in the LoveTV Starleague.
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United States10239 Posts
brood war forever in our hearts. leggo effort (still wont forgive you for korean air osl)
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His games today have been really solid, especially against Shuttle. Well done!
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what a great time to be alive
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Dude, I went to the Gangnam Proleague studio for CJ v SKT this summer, and on the last night, the CJ bus was majorly delayed, and all the CJ guys were just standing around at the entrance to the studio (SKT bounced fast to go eat a celebratory dinner), so I picked up the courage to approach the guys and ask for a photo. Earlier-on, seeing Canata's proud surprise to discover I'd come from Switzerland to watch Starcraft, and that I remembered him, I'd learned the value of convincing ex-BW pros of your fandom legacy, so I addressed Hydra as "you win MSL" and EffOrt as "OSL Champion, against Lee Yong Ho too". Overall, I think the experience reminded him when he was on top of the world (though he was putting forward surprisingly good SC2 results, it wasn't enough), so Hydra but particularly EffOrt were BEAMING afterwards. Skyhigh was looking sullen as usual. So was BByong, since I'd asked him to sign my "BBoying has best dance-moves" cheerful (currently residing in an honourable stack in my room).
+ Show Spoiler [Nerd-Cred Delivered] +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2mx1cfL.jpg) ??? - BByong - EffOrt - Hydra - White-Boy - Hero? - ???
Just think that the burden of his mother's ill-health was probably already heavy on him (I'd suspect his first semi-retirement was caused by the same sort of reason). All the best to CJ, and these guys, man, for having hamstringed their lives and careers simply to entertain us, I really hope they can be compensated and cared for. And I REALLY need to get around to blogging the rest of this stuff...
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On January 06 2015 12:33 bITt.mAN wrote:Dude, I went to the Gangnam Proleague studio for CJ v SKT this summer, and on the last night, the CJ bus was majorly delayed, and all the CJ guys were just standing around at the entrance to the studio (SKT bounced fast to go eat a celebratory dinner), so I picked up the courage to approach the guys and ask for a photo. Earlier-on, seeing Canata's proud surprise to discover I'd come from Switzerland to watch Starcraft, and that I remembered him, I'd learned the value of convincing ex-BW pros of your fandom legacy, so I addressed Hydra as "you win MSL" and EffOrt as "OSL Champion, against Lee Yong Ho too". Overall, I think the experience reminded him when he was on top of the world (though he was putting forward surprisingly good SC2 results, it wasn't enough), so Hydra but particularly EffOrt were BEAMING afterwards. Skyhigh was looking sullen as usual. So was BByong, since I'd asked him to sign my "BBoying has best dance-moves" cheerful (currently residing in an honourable stack in my room). + Show Spoiler [Nerd-Cred Delivered] +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2mx1cfL.jpg) ??? - BByong - EffOrt - Hydra - White-Boy - Hero? - ??? Just think that the burden of his mother's ill-health was probably already heavy on him (I'd suspect his first semi-retirement was caused by the same sort of reason). All the best to CJ, and these guys, man, for having hamstringed their lives and careers simply to entertain us, I really hope they can be compensated and cared for. And I REALLY need to get around to blogging the rest of this stuff... Wow that's awesome man! Please write this blog
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On January 06 2015 02:40 Kau wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 18:50 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:On January 05 2015 18:19 zeo wrote:On January 05 2015 09:32 Masheyoon wrote: Amusingly, what happened three years ago appears to be happening now, only it's SC2 that's fading and BW emerging.
The bitterness people feel towards Blizzard is understandable. What Mike Morhaime said directly after the final OSL was appalling (Paraphrased: "Brood War's departure is a good thing and will help pave way for SC2."). Instead of appearing impressive in the eyes of many by having a video game that has stood the test of time, Blizzard now appears greedy, selfish and entirely dumb in the eyes of everyone for killing it off in trying to make SC2 as successful as possible. They could have, you know, continued to support both games.
You made me remember that Morhaime speech  I can't believe people actually think that the Savior fiasco 'killed' BW, yeah it hurt the scene but it come nowhere close to Blizzard actively trying to shut down and hijack the BW esports scene so 'esports' could be used as a marketing tool for SC2. Edit: On the topic of Effort, I always liked him more than Jaedong. Can you provide some sources for this? I mena any official annoucments etc. I would love to thorw this in blizzard face  What does this even mean? Throw in Blizzard's face? Don't stir up shit please. Everyone just stop posting about Blizzard and SC2 in this thread.
i think we're eligible to express our opinions on the Blizzard-Kespa-Sc2 themecomplex here, right? It isn't exactly the topic, but of course people discuss how to "interpret" player switches in the light of past events. That "throwing into Blizzards Face remark is out of line i agree, but will there be consequences if people just have a... civil discussion about the subject? I don't want to annoy you, i would like to clarify for myself, what your position on this subject is.
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Maybe what the bw section of tl really needs, and the sc2 section when it comes to that, is a dedicated bw vs sc2 thread, to contain all that kind of discussion. It is definitively a topic worthy of discussion in itself, but not every other topic should turn into it. So with a dedicated thread we got a place to discuss that, and even better, a place to send people when a threads goes off topic.
Or does that already exist?
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On January 06 2015 21:00 Cascade wrote: Maybe what the bw section of tl really needs, and the sc2 section when it comes to that, is a dedicated bw vs sc2 thread, to contain all that kind of discussion. It is definitively a topic worthy of discussion in itself, but not every other topic should turn into it. So with a dedicated thread we got a place to discuss that, and even better, a place to send people when a threads goes off topic.
Or does that already exist?
I guess what TL needs is 2 seperate community pages (for BW and SC2). Like the ones they have for dota 2 and hearthstone. Although they are both called "Starcraft" they do not have much in common, which often leads to aggresive encounters between the 2 communities. I personally can not stand those SC2 guys talking about BW although they never played the game for real (some of them did not play the game at all).
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On January 06 2015 22:59 TaShadan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 21:00 Cascade wrote: Maybe what the bw section of tl really needs, and the sc2 section when it comes to that, is a dedicated bw vs sc2 thread, to contain all that kind of discussion. It is definitively a topic worthy of discussion in itself, but not every other topic should turn into it. So with a dedicated thread we got a place to discuss that, and even better, a place to send people when a threads goes off topic.
Or does that already exist? I guess what TL needs is 2 seperate community pages (for BW and SC2). Like the ones they have for dota 2 and hearthstone. Although they are both called "Starcraft" they do not have much in common, which often leads to aggresive encounters between the 2 communities. I personally can not stand those SC2 guys talking about BW although they never played the game for real (some of them did not play the game at all). I suggest against that, liquiddota was a bad idea and I'd rather not see it happen again
I want Fantasy back next plz and thank you.
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On January 06 2015 23:03 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 22:59 TaShadan wrote:On January 06 2015 21:00 Cascade wrote: Maybe what the bw section of tl really needs, and the sc2 section when it comes to that, is a dedicated bw vs sc2 thread, to contain all that kind of discussion. It is definitively a topic worthy of discussion in itself, but not every other topic should turn into it. So with a dedicated thread we got a place to discuss that, and even better, a place to send people when a threads goes off topic.
Or does that already exist? I guess what TL needs is 2 seperate community pages (for BW and SC2). Like the ones they have for dota 2 and hearthstone. Although they are both called "Starcraft" they do not have much in common, which often leads to aggresive encounters between the 2 communities. I personally can not stand those SC2 guys talking about BW although they never played the game for real (some of them did not play the game at all). I suggest against that, liquiddota was a bad idea and I'd rather not see it happen again I want Fantasy back next plz and thank you.
I am not active on liquiddota but why do you think it is a bad idea?
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Well it split up the community and made the community cross pollination that makes tl so long lasting less likely. I can think of a ton of sc2 fans who have found bw after coming to tl for sc2, and a two site split would make that much less likely to happen.
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On January 06 2015 23:40 IntoTheWow wrote: Yes!!!
ps: oh cheep :<
What? :3
hi agu~
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On January 06 2015 22:59 TaShadan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 21:00 Cascade wrote: Maybe what the bw section of tl really needs, and the sc2 section when it comes to that, is a dedicated bw vs sc2 thread, to contain all that kind of discussion. It is definitively a topic worthy of discussion in itself, but not every other topic should turn into it. So with a dedicated thread we got a place to discuss that, and even better, a place to send people when a threads goes off topic.
Or does that already exist? I guess what TL needs is 2 seperate community pages (for BW and SC2). Like the ones they have for dota 2 and hearthstone. Although they are both called "Starcraft" they do not have much in common, which often leads to aggresive encounters between the 2 communities. I personally can not stand those SC2 guys talking about BW although they never played the game for real (some of them did not play the game at all). you can do this yourself. they have allowed customization to basically remove sc2 or bw from teamliquid.net. i used it to remove dota before they split.
http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/leftsidebar.php
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