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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1728 Posts
January 04 2015 09:24 GMT
#21
Finally, we have a top ace zerg
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
January 04 2015 09:25 GMT
#22
And we thought that we had seen the last of the pros switch back to BW
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 09:28:31
January 04 2015 09:28 GMT
#23
On January 04 2015 18:15 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 16:51 kjwcj wrote:
If he turns out to be as bad as ZerO my heart will break.


Other than a (major) glitch in SSL, ZerO has been a fucking monster the last few months.


regardless of his sponleague/41sl form, it's hard to call what happened in SSL a glitch when he has a sub-50% winrate in 2/3 match-ups.
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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 09:41:02
January 04 2015 09:39 GMT
#24
On January 04 2015 17:51 c3rberUs wrote:
Just curious, who may the other zerg be if EffOrt is the third? Jaedong, ___, EffOrt?

It's Soulkey.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Sanders
Profile Joined June 2010
97 Posts
January 04 2015 09:42 GMT
#25
With a bit of effort the next SSL could be fantastic.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 04 2015 09:42 GMT
#26
On January 04 2015 18:39 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 17:51 c3rberUs wrote:
Just curious, who may the other zerg be if EffOrt is the third? Jaedong, ___, EffOrt?

It's Soulkey.


soulkey didnt have any BW accomplishments other than being a strong proleague player and up and rising zerg.

ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 09:48:12
January 04 2015 09:44 GMT
#27
On January 04 2015 18:42 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 18:39 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 17:51 c3rberUs wrote:
Just curious, who may the other zerg be if EffOrt is the third? Jaedong, ___, EffOrt?

It's Soulkey.


soulkey didnt have any BW accomplishments other than being a strong proleague player and up and rising zerg.

It's not about accomplishments, it's about style of play.

The rule is universal: those who have best ZvT, are the best Zergs in Starcraft.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
January 04 2015 09:47 GMT
#28
you guys gotta recall, he lost his mother not too long ago.
that's depressing if anything, but i hope he has fun regardless.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
January 04 2015 09:47 GMT
#29
On January 04 2015 18:42 Sanders wrote:
With a bit of effort the next SSL could be fantastic.

You are awesome!

This news is awesome.

2015 is a good year
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 04 2015 09:47 GMT
#30
On January 04 2015 18:44 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 18:42 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:39 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 17:51 c3rberUs wrote:
Just curious, who may the other zerg be if EffOrt is the third? Jaedong, ___, EffOrt?

It's Soulkey.


soulkey didnt have any BW accomplishments other than being a strong proleague player and up and rising zerg.

It's not about accomplishments, it's about style of play.


people like july, savior, gorush deserve to be there more than him for actually influencing the metagame and accomplishing something. soulkey is brillant in sc2 but hes just above average in BW
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
January 04 2015 09:48 GMT
#31
i guess it depends on what your definition of modern is.

zero or soulkey over effort over any period of time is insanity though.
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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
January 04 2015 09:49 GMT
#32
On January 04 2015 18:48 kjwcj wrote:
i guess it depends on what your definition of modern is.

zero or soulkey over effort over any period of time is insanity though.

1) Jaedong; 2) EffOrt; 3) Soulkey imo.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Wazurawashii
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden33 Posts
January 04 2015 09:49 GMT
#33
Nice! Great news.
afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States340 Posts
January 04 2015 09:51 GMT
#34
This is amazing~! What a legend.
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
January 04 2015 09:52 GMT
#35
On January 04 2015 18:47 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 18:44 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:42 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:39 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 17:51 c3rberUs wrote:
Just curious, who may the other zerg be if EffOrt is the third? Jaedong, ___, EffOrt?

It's Soulkey.


soulkey didnt have any BW accomplishments other than being a strong proleague player and up and rising zerg.

It's not about accomplishments, it's about style of play.


people like july, savior, gorush deserve to be there more than him for actually influencing the metagame and accomplishing something. soulkey is brillant in sc2 but hes just above average in BW

you missed his series against Fanta in MSL, I see.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 04 2015 09:55 GMT
#36
On January 04 2015 18:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 18:47 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:44 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:42 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:39 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 17:51 c3rberUs wrote:
Just curious, who may the other zerg be if EffOrt is the third? Jaedong, ___, EffOrt?

It's Soulkey.


soulkey didnt have any BW accomplishments other than being a strong proleague player and up and rising zerg.

It's not about accomplishments, it's about style of play.


people like july, savior, gorush deserve to be there more than him for actually influencing the metagame and accomplishing something. soulkey is brillant in sc2 but hes just above average in BW

you missed his series against Fanta in MSL, I see.


you missed effort's comeback win against flash in a freaking osl finals i see.
Scrutinizer
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 09:59:50
January 04 2015 09:58 GMT
#37
On January 04 2015 18:55 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 18:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:47 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:44 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:42 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:39 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 17:51 c3rberUs wrote:
Just curious, who may the other zerg be if EffOrt is the third? Jaedong, ___, EffOrt?

It's Soulkey.


soulkey didnt have any BW accomplishments other than being a strong proleague player and up and rising zerg.

It's not about accomplishments, it's about style of play.


people like july, savior, gorush deserve to be there more than him for actually influencing the metagame and accomplishing something. soulkey is brillant in sc2 but hes just above average in BW

you missed his series against Fanta in MSL, I see.


you missed effort's comeback win against flash in a freaking osl finals i see.


nice one Probemicro
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 09:59:54
January 04 2015 09:58 GMT
#38
On January 04 2015 18:49 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 18:48 kjwcj wrote:
i guess it depends on what your definition of modern is.

zero or soulkey over effort over any period of time is insanity though.

1) Jaedong; 2) EffOrt; 3) Soulkey imo.


soulkey never made it past the ro16 of an individual league (as far as i can recall). he looked like he was on his way to being a great player during the last 18 months or so of brood war but he doesn't warrant inclusion on that list ahead of the likes of zero and hydra, imo.
Writer
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 10:01:57
January 04 2015 09:59 GMT
#39
On January 04 2015 18:55 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 18:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:47 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:44 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:42 Probemicro wrote:
On January 04 2015 18:39 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On January 04 2015 17:51 c3rberUs wrote:
Just curious, who may the other zerg be if EffOrt is the third? Jaedong, ___, EffOrt?

It's Soulkey.


soulkey didnt have any BW accomplishments other than being a strong proleague player and up and rising zerg.

It's not about accomplishments, it's about style of play.


people like july, savior, gorush deserve to be there more than him for actually influencing the metagame and accomplishing something. soulkey is brillant in sc2 but hes just above average in BW

you missed his series against Fanta in MSL, I see.


you missed effort's comeback win against flash in a freaking osl finals i see.

ffs I am not arguing that Soulkey is better than Effort.

@kjwj, Soulkey had better ZvT than Hydra and ZerO.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
January 04 2015 10:00 GMT
#40
On January 04 2015 16:48 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 16:24 Mirabel_ wrote:
Finally, after all this time, we get a second S-class player.

I mean, EffOrt was a great player, but he hasn't played BW seriously, if at all, in 3 years. He certainly has the potential to be one of the best again, but let's not crown him too early, okay?


Whether or not he turns out to be S-class again, he undoubtedly reached that in BW, unlike just about every current player other than Bisu. I think that's all Mirabel_ is saying. That said, Jangbi was also an S-class player in BW.

Zero and Sea are the closest out of the other players, but never fully reached that S-class level.

To me, S-class required having both a stretch of game-to-game dominance, along with a stretch of high individual league results. For example, Jangbi was S-class before his OSLs (in fact, the OSLs alone might not have been enough, especially with the scene fading with the dual proleague and all by the second OSL), due to him being a game-to-game beast during a stretch in 2008 / 2009 (also being outright unbelievable at PvT), plus making back to back MSL finals and the GSL final.
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