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Oh you didnt have pc to play?
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On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:14 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:09 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 18:51 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 18:47 Sakat wrote:
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mathups? PvP and PvT Easy wins What do you do in PvT? I seem to have problems with it I play always quite safe. In this match I just build 1 gate and expand then I built robo and second gate. I made 2 observer. One to scout and another one to stay with army. Then I did one scouting pylon to right of the map (overgrowth) and probe to xel naga. At that point I had no scouting information. I never sen probe. Then he cames with 2 medivac to different bases at the same time with marines and window mines. I manage to kill all his units but the kills few stalkers and 15-20 probe. Third dropship comes soon and I manage to kill that also without losses. he also sents fourth dropship that I see with my xel naga and I kill it with my stalkers. At that point I knew he couldn't have great army/or economy. So I just started +1 attack and robotic bay. I built 5 more gates and waited 2 colossus. I attacked when I had 2 colo alot stalkers and few zealots and +1. I was right he didnt have alot army. // I just play safe I mostly try to get storm early... Shows I'm bronze, I guess. But I'm quite good with storm, and at my level most people can't split. If I can tech to storm, I usually win. Although, my 25-30 apm doesn't usually get me storm before I die to medivacs and bio. I'm not going to question balace, I for one, think the game is fairly balanced and I just suck at the game. If you're bronze then I feel you should 1-base all-in out of it tbh. Then once in silver 2-base allin until you reach platinum. Then start to mix up macro play with your cheeses. When you all-in you have strong and specific benchmarks and timings to hit, which helps you in improving your macro What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!!  I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first
Thanks, I will try to do that. First need to get my PC fixed though. This shitty laptop can't run SC2
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On October 23 2014 19:28 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Oh you didnt have pc to play?
Yup, It's both a blessing, and a curse. I finally get shit done, but I'm very very sad
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Oh btw, just because you are macroing it doesn't mean you can't use the first units to create space for you. The more you intimidate your enemy, the less likely it is for him to expand or adapt to your strat
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On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:14 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:09 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 18:51 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 18:47 Sakat wrote:
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mathups? PvP and PvT Easy wins What do you do in PvT? I seem to have problems with it I play always quite safe. In this match I just build 1 gate and expand then I built robo and second gate. I made 2 observer. One to scout and another one to stay with army. Then I did one scouting pylon to right of the map (overgrowth) and probe to xel naga. At that point I had no scouting information. I never sen probe. Then he cames with 2 medivac to different bases at the same time with marines and window mines. I manage to kill all his units but the kills few stalkers and 15-20 probe. Third dropship comes soon and I manage to kill that also without losses. he also sents fourth dropship that I see with my xel naga and I kill it with my stalkers. At that point I knew he couldn't have great army/or economy. So I just started +1 attack and robotic bay. I built 5 more gates and waited 2 colossus. I attacked when I had 2 colo alot stalkers and few zealots and +1. I was right he didnt have alot army. // I just play safe I mostly try to get storm early... Shows I'm bronze, I guess. But I'm quite good with storm, and at my level most people can't split. If I can tech to storm, I usually win. Although, my 25-30 apm doesn't usually get me storm before I die to medivacs and bio. I'm not going to question balace, I for one, think the game is fairly balanced and I just suck at the game. If you're bronze then I feel you should 1-base all-in out of it tbh. Then once in silver 2-base allin until you reach platinum. Then start to mix up macro play with your cheeses. When you all-in you have strong and specific benchmarks and timings to hit, which helps you in improving your macro What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first
Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself
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On October 23 2014 19:30 Wintex wrote:
Oh btw, just because you are macroing it doesn't mean you can't use the first units to create space for you. The more you intimidate your enemy, the less likely it is for him to expand or adapt to your strat
It sometimes feels like most of these bronze players shouldn't be in bronze. I get so outmatched sometimes I feels like I'm incompetent at playing.
I basicly gave up playing on the ladder a few week ago and just played custom games against a friend.
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On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:14 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:09 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 18:51 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
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PvP and PvT
Easy wins What do you do in PvT? I seem to have problems with it I play always quite safe. In this match I just build 1 gate and expand then I built robo and second gate. I made 2 observer. One to scout and another one to stay with army. Then I did one scouting pylon to right of the map (overgrowth) and probe to xel naga. At that point I had no scouting information. I never sen probe. Then he cames with 2 medivac to different bases at the same time with marines and window mines. I manage to kill all his units but the kills few stalkers and 15-20 probe. Third dropship comes soon and I manage to kill that also without losses. he also sents fourth dropship that I see with my xel naga and I kill it with my stalkers. At that point I knew he couldn't have great army/or economy. So I just started +1 attack and robotic bay. I built 5 more gates and waited 2 colossus. I attacked when I had 2 colo alot stalkers and few zealots and +1. I was right he didnt have alot army. // I just play safe I mostly try to get storm early... Shows I'm bronze, I guess. But I'm quite good with storm, and at my level most people can't split. If I can tech to storm, I usually win. Although, my 25-30 apm doesn't usually get me storm before I die to medivacs and bio. I'm not going to question balace, I for one, think the game is fairly balanced and I just suck at the game. If you're bronze then I feel you should 1-base all-in out of it tbh. Then once in silver 2-base allin until you reach platinum. Then start to mix up macro play with your cheeses. When you all-in you have strong and specific benchmarks and timings to hit, which helps you in improving your macro What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself
What's it like up there? I seems very far away...
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On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:14 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:09 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 18:51 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
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PvP and PvT
Easy wins What do you do in PvT? I seem to have problems with it I play always quite safe. In this match I just build 1 gate and expand then I built robo and second gate. I made 2 observer. One to scout and another one to stay with army. Then I did one scouting pylon to right of the map (overgrowth) and probe to xel naga. At that point I had no scouting information. I never sen probe. Then he cames with 2 medivac to different bases at the same time with marines and window mines. I manage to kill all his units but the kills few stalkers and 15-20 probe. Third dropship comes soon and I manage to kill that also without losses. he also sents fourth dropship that I see with my xel naga and I kill it with my stalkers. At that point I knew he couldn't have great army/or economy. So I just started +1 attack and robotic bay. I built 5 more gates and waited 2 colossus. I attacked when I had 2 colo alot stalkers and few zealots and +1. I was right he didnt have alot army. // I just play safe I mostly try to get storm early... Shows I'm bronze, I guess. But I'm quite good with storm, and at my level most people can't split. If I can tech to storm, I usually win. Although, my 25-30 apm doesn't usually get me storm before I die to medivacs and bio. I'm not going to question balace, I for one, think the game is fairly balanced and I just suck at the game. If you're bronze then I feel you should 1-base all-in out of it tbh. Then once in silver 2-base allin until you reach platinum. Then start to mix up macro play with your cheeses. When you all-in you have strong and specific benchmarks and timings to hit, which helps you in improving your macro What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself
Normally that should be the flow.. not vice-versa.. defend all ins and cheeses instead of doing them. Sometimes do them only to know what are the weaknesses. If you do only all ins/cheeses you will get at one point where peoople will hold it and your win rate will drop to like 20-30% and you feel like you were absent in this game.. cause you don`t know how to macro and play normal mid late game.
But.. league wise you will have much better progress with all ins then macro games.
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On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:14 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:09 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 18:51 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
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PvP and PvT
Easy wins What do you do in PvT? I seem to have problems with it I play always quite safe. In this match I just build 1 gate and expand then I built robo and second gate. I made 2 observer. One to scout and another one to stay with army. Then I did one scouting pylon to right of the map (overgrowth) and probe to xel naga. At that point I had no scouting information. I never sen probe. Then he cames with 2 medivac to different bases at the same time with marines and window mines. I manage to kill all his units but the kills few stalkers and 15-20 probe. Third dropship comes soon and I manage to kill that also without losses. he also sents fourth dropship that I see with my xel naga and I kill it with my stalkers. At that point I knew he couldn't have great army/or economy. So I just started +1 attack and robotic bay. I built 5 more gates and waited 2 colossus. I attacked when I had 2 colo alot stalkers and few zealots and +1. I was right he didnt have alot army. // I just play safe I mostly try to get storm early... Shows I'm bronze, I guess. But I'm quite good with storm, and at my level most people can't split. If I can tech to storm, I usually win. Although, my 25-30 apm doesn't usually get me storm before I die to medivacs and bio. I'm not going to question balace, I for one, think the game is fairly balanced and I just suck at the game. If you're bronze then I feel you should 1-base all-in out of it tbh. Then once in silver 2-base allin until you reach platinum. Then start to mix up macro play with your cheeses. When you all-in you have strong and specific benchmarks and timings to hit, which helps you in improving your macro What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself
Yeah I'm not advising to get into master by cheesing, just saying that when in lower leagues, doing all-ins is good because if you do them right, it will print the early game mechanics into you. I mean, when you have a precise timing to hit, any error (supply block, not making probes,...) that you will do in the early game is going to make your timing late, and you'll see that and be able to correct your mistakes in the following games. And by repetition you'll never forget your 16/24/etc pylons. Then when you hit a decent level of play you can start to macro up and learn to hold cheeses. Maybe my advice is wrong though
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On October 23 2014 19:34 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:30 Wintex wrote:
Oh btw, just because you are macroing it doesn't mean you can't use the first units to create space for you. The more you intimidate your enemy, the less likely it is for him to expand or adapt to your strat It sometimes feels like most of these bronze players shouldn't be in bronze. I get so outmatched sometimes I feels like I'm incompetent at playing. I basicly gave up playing on the ladder a few week ago and just played custom games against a friend.
Oh and biggest of all. Starcraft should teach you how to lose. Losing is great.
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On October 23 2014 19:40 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:34 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:30 Wintex wrote:
Oh btw, just because you are macroing it doesn't mean you can't use the first units to create space for you. The more you intimidate your enemy, the less likely it is for him to expand or adapt to your strat It sometimes feels like most of these bronze players shouldn't be in bronze. I get so outmatched sometimes I feels like I'm incompetent at playing. I basicly gave up playing on the ladder a few week ago and just played custom games against a friend. Oh and biggest of all. Starcraft shold teach you how to lose. Losing is great.
And also teach you that you can progress with practice. Acknowledging that you are being outmatched is the first step in progressing
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On October 23 2014 19:25 Wintex wrote:
Honestly. Fuck builds and go macro. Just make stuff. If you don't make probes and pylons, you can't do a simple build.
Totally agree! Just make 15 marines at a time and win WCS AM and RBBG!
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On October 23 2014 19:43 IAmWithStupid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:25 Wintex wrote:
Honestly. Fuck builds and go macro. Just make stuff. If you don't make probes and pylons, you can't do a simple build. Totally agree! Just make 15 marines at a time and win WCS AM and RBBG!
This boy gets it
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On October 23 2014 19:41 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:40 Wintex wrote:On October 23 2014 19:34 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:30 Wintex wrote:
Oh btw, just because you are macroing it doesn't mean you can't use the first units to create space for you. The more you intimidate your enemy, the less likely it is for him to expand or adapt to your strat It sometimes feels like most of these bronze players shouldn't be in bronze. I get so outmatched sometimes I feels like I'm incompetent at playing. I basicly gave up playing on the ladder a few week ago and just played custom games against a friend. Oh and biggest of all. Starcraft shold teach you how to lose. Losing is great. And also teach you that you can progress with practice. Acknowledging that you are being outmatched is the first step in progressing
This is actually ecouriging, thanks
The thing is, leagues aren't all that important to me. I just want to learn how to play the game properly. I reckon the league progress comes with that.
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On October 23 2014 19:36 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:14 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:09 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 18:51 Sakat wrote:
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What do you do in PvT? I seem to have problems with it I play always quite safe. In this match I just build 1 gate and expand then I built robo and second gate. I made 2 observer. One to scout and another one to stay with army. Then I did one scouting pylon to right of the map (overgrowth) and probe to xel naga. At that point I had no scouting information. I never sen probe. Then he cames with 2 medivac to different bases at the same time with marines and window mines. I manage to kill all his units but the kills few stalkers and 15-20 probe. Third dropship comes soon and I manage to kill that also without losses. he also sents fourth dropship that I see with my xel naga and I kill it with my stalkers. At that point I knew he couldn't have great army/or economy. So I just started +1 attack and robotic bay. I built 5 more gates and waited 2 colossus. I attacked when I had 2 colo alot stalkers and few zealots and +1. I was right he didnt have alot army. // I just play safe I mostly try to get storm early... Shows I'm bronze, I guess. But I'm quite good with storm, and at my level most people can't split. If I can tech to storm, I usually win. Although, my 25-30 apm doesn't usually get me storm before I die to medivacs and bio. I'm not going to question balace, I for one, think the game is fairly balanced and I just suck at the game. If you're bronze then I feel you should 1-base all-in out of it tbh. Then once in silver 2-base allin until you reach platinum. Then start to mix up macro play with your cheeses. When you all-in you have strong and specific benchmarks and timings to hit, which helps you in improving your macro What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself What's it like up there? I seems very far away...
Well, after long break and placement match Blizzard put me to diamond. 3 wins now 0 losses. All vs high diamonds. I just played vs protoss again. I just hope I don't meet zergs.....
Oh well ye, I lost placement match so its 3-1?
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On October 23 2014 19:43 IAmWithStupid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:25 Wintex wrote:
Honestly. Fuck builds and go macro. Just make stuff. If you don't make probes and pylons, you can't do a simple build. Totally agree! Just make 15 marines at a time and win WCS AM and RBBG!
Bomber usually makes something like 18 marines at a time... It's ridiculus.
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On October 23 2014 19:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:36 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:14 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:09 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
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I play always quite safe. In this match I just build 1 gate and expand then I built robo and second gate. I made 2 observer. One to scout and another one to stay with army. Then I did one scouting pylon to right of the map (overgrowth) and probe to xel naga.
At that point I had no scouting information. I never sen probe. Then he cames with 2 medivac to different bases at the same time with marines and window mines. I manage to kill all his units but the kills few stalkers and 15-20 probe. Third dropship comes soon and I manage to kill that also without losses. he also sents fourth dropship that I see with my xel naga and I kill it with my stalkers. At that point I knew he couldn't have great army/or economy. So I just started +1 attack and robotic bay. I built 5 more gates and waited 2 colossus. I attacked when I had 2 colo alot stalkers and few zealots and +1. I was right he didnt have alot army.
// I just play safe I mostly try to get storm early... Shows I'm bronze, I guess. But I'm quite good with storm, and at my level most people can't split. If I can tech to storm, I usually win. Although, my 25-30 apm doesn't usually get me storm before I die to medivacs and bio. I'm not going to question balace, I for one, think the game is fairly balanced and I just suck at the game. If you're bronze then I feel you should 1-base all-in out of it tbh. Then once in silver 2-base allin until you reach platinum. Then start to mix up macro play with your cheeses. When you all-in you have strong and specific benchmarks and timings to hit, which helps you in improving your macro What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself What's it like up there? I seems very far away... Well, after long break and placement I Blizzard put me to diamond. 3 wins now 0 losses. All vs high diamonds. I just played vs protoss again. I just hope I don't meet zergs.....
Why? Isn't protoss op against zerg? That's what I heard
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You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time.
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On October 23 2014 19:47 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:36 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:14 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:09 Sakat wrote:
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I mostly try to get storm early... Shows I'm bronze, I guess. But I'm quite good with storm, and at my level most people can't split. If I can tech to storm, I usually win. Although, my 25-30 apm doesn't usually get me storm before I die to medivacs and bio. I'm not going to question balace, I for one, think the game is fairly balanced and I just suck at the game. If you're bronze then I feel you should 1-base all-in out of it tbh. Then once in silver 2-base allin until you reach platinum. Then start to mix up macro play with your cheeses. When you all-in you have strong and specific benchmarks and timings to hit, which helps you in improving your macro What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself What's it like up there? I seems very far away... Well, after long break and placement I Blizzard put me to diamond. 3 wins now 0 losses. All vs high diamonds. I just played vs protoss again. I just hope I don't meet zergs..... Why? Isn't protoss op against zerg? That's what I heard
Every Zerg thinks P is OP, and every P thinks the opposite. It's because ZvP is both difficult and frustrating, for both races
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On October 23 2014 19:48 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:47 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:36 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:14 OtherWorld wrote:
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If you're bronze then I feel you should 1-base all-in out of it tbh. Then once in silver 2-base allin until you reach platinum. Then start to mix up macro play with your cheeses. When you all-in you have strong and specific benchmarks and timings to hit, which helps you in improving your macro What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself What's it like up there? I seems very far away... Well, after long break and placement I Blizzard put me to diamond. 3 wins now 0 losses. All vs high diamonds. I just played vs protoss again. I just hope I don't meet zergs..... Why? Isn't protoss op against zerg? That's what I heard Every Zerg thinks P is OP, and every P thinks the opposite. It's because ZvP is both difficult and frustrating, for both races
What's wrong with it?
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