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On October 23 2014 19:48 H8 wrote:
You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time.
We should really start playing 
Why did you stop?
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On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:48 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:47 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:36 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:17 Sakat wrote:
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What, I just proxy 2-gate, proxy oracle and shit? I'm new to the game, I watchet for a bout a year now, but I only started playing recently, I don't know all builds. Any other one base all-ins I should know about? (there are probably a lot) I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!!  I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself What's it like up there? I seems very far away... Well, after long break and placement I Blizzard put me to diamond. 3 wins now 0 losses. All vs high diamonds. I just played vs protoss again. I just hope I don't meet zergs..... Why? Isn't protoss op against zerg? That's what I heard Every Zerg thinks P is OP, and every P thinks the opposite. It's because ZvP is both difficult and frustrating, for both races What's wrong with it?
I hate mutalisk and swarm hosts. When I meet them I just want to go play WoL.
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On October 23 2014 19:48 H8 wrote:
You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time.
Close your eyes, breath, open starcraft2 and hit ladder. You will enjoy it.
Also you will be surprised that even if you had a big break, but if you watch enough tournaments, you still know this games.
It will be a great feeling after your first deserved win. (if you all in/cheese don`t think you will be so happy, especially since you had a break).
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Everyone thinks everything is OP. An they are right !
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On October 23 2014 19:50 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:48 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:47 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:36 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:
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I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself What's it like up there? I seems very far away... Well, after long break and placement I Blizzard put me to diamond. 3 wins now 0 losses. All vs high diamonds. I just played vs protoss again. I just hope I don't meet zergs..... Why? Isn't protoss op against zerg? That's what I heard Every Zerg thinks P is OP, and every P thinks the opposite. It's because ZvP is both difficult and frustrating, for both races What's wrong with it? I hate mutalisk and swarm hosts. When I meet them I just want to go play WoL.
There are mutalisks in WoL
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On October 23 2014 19:50 Garbels wrote:
Everyone thinks everything is OP. An they are right !
No..PvP is balanced. NOT COINFLIP WTF
PvP was my best mu in early mid WoL and always in HoTS. In end of wol (for about year) I had 85% vs zerg.
But these are my all time hots stats:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5gtjslv.jpg)
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On October 23 2014 19:53 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:50 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:48 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:47 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:36 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:[quote] Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself What's it like up there? I seems very far away... Well, after long break and placement I Blizzard put me to diamond. 3 wins now 0 losses. All vs high diamonds. I just played vs protoss again. I just hope I don't meet zergs..... Why? Isn't protoss op against zerg? That's what I heard Every Zerg thinks P is OP, and every P thinks the opposite. It's because ZvP is both difficult and frustrating, for both races What's wrong with it? I hate mutalisk and swarm hosts. When I meet them I just want to go play WoL. There are mutalisks in WoL
Hots mutas are too guud. They regenerate and they are faster
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On October 23 2014 19:54 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:53 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:50 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:48 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:47 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:36 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:
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Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself What's it like up there? I seems very far away... Well, after long break and placement I Blizzard put me to diamond. 3 wins now 0 losses. All vs high diamonds. I just played vs protoss again. I just hope I don't meet zergs..... Why? Isn't protoss op against zerg? That's what I heard Every Zerg thinks P is OP, and every P thinks the opposite. It's because ZvP is both difficult and frustrating, for both races What's wrong with it? I hate mutalisk and swarm hosts. When I meet them I just want to go play WoL. There are mutalisks in WoL Hots mutas are too guud. They regenerate and they are faster
They buffed the mutas for JD
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On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:48 H8 wrote:
You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time. We should really start playing Why did you stop?
I played a lot of games (hunting portraits), but then my graphic card broke down a I was like three weeks without some pc/notebook capable of running sc2. By the time the graphic card came back repaired, my passion for game was already left. I played only campaign and like fifty games since then.
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On October 23 2014 19:55 H8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:48 H8 wrote:
You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time. We should really start playing Why did you stop? I played a lot of games (hunting portraits), but then my graphic card broke down a I was like three weeks without some pc/notebook capable of running sc2. By the time the graphic card came back repaired, my passion for game was already left. I played only campaign and like fifty games since then.
I just got bored being smacked around for months now. I watched all those tutorial videos on youtube, but I feel I'm just naturally too slow to play this game
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On October 23 2014 19:50 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:48 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:47 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:36 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 23 2014 19:27 OtherWorld wrote:On October 23 2014 19:24 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:21 OtherWorld wrote:
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I don't play Protoss, but I think the Book of Bullshit has a very nice one-base allin versus Terran. Then versus Protoss you probably just do a 10gate 3gates (I believe it's in the book of bullshit too) and and vs Zerg either proxy gates or... 4gate? I'm not sure if people still die to 4gates nowadays, even in bronze, but that could work if you hit the timings well Proxy gates it is!!! I don't know, against Z I usually just defend for 15-20 miutes and kill everything with a bunch of voids. That seems to work Well you can always do that. But as you'll go up in the leagues you'll see that people won't let you sit back for that long, so learning to play with timings is good. You can also play standard macro like TheBloodyDwarf does, but it's easier to progress and get a better macro when you start by doing allins at first Well, idk. I got into master with 400 wins. I learned to hold all ins/cheeses. Not to do them myself What's it like up there? I seems very far away... Well, after long break and placement I Blizzard put me to diamond. 3 wins now 0 losses. All vs high diamonds. I just played vs protoss again. I just hope I don't meet zergs..... Why? Isn't protoss op against zerg? That's what I heard Every Zerg thinks P is OP, and every P thinks the opposite. It's because ZvP is both difficult and frustrating, for both races What's wrong with it? I hate mutalisk and swarm hosts. When I meet them I just want to go play WoL.
Here's a P opinion. From my Zerg point of view, I hate Protoss all-ins, because they are numerous and equally deadly (but when you learn to scout them it's less frustrating), Protoss turtle style, because it forces you into SHs and I don't particularily like to use them, and the Colossus because it basically counters everything Zerg has except for muta/corruptor. All in all I feel that what really plagues the MU is the fact that it never seems close, once you are behind you pretty much lose the game (or go SH and lose 1 hour of your life). Even when I win a ZvP, I don't enjoy it because it means I pretty much crushed my opponent.
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And its just weird that many players play in one season more games than I all time hots
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On October 23 2014 19:50 jarod wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:48 H8 wrote:
You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time. Close your eyes, breath, open starcraft2 and hit ladder. You will enjoy it. Also you will be surprised that even if you had a big break, but if you watch enough tournaments, you still know this games. It will be a great feeling after your first deserved win. (if you all in/cheese don`t think you will be so happy, especially since you had a break).
I might try that, thanks. But I guess not until next week, because I'm going to visit my mom in another city.
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On October 23 2014 19:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:And its just weird that many players play in one season more games than I all time hots
Not enough passion!!!
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And about that 85% winrate vs zerg late wol. I always played skytoss. Voidrays, archons, ht carriers and mothership. And you know what? Void ht zealot archon became super popular build in early hots. I saw nobody using it in wol except me
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On October 23 2014 19:56 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:55 H8 wrote:On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:48 H8 wrote:
You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time. We should really start playing Why did you stop? I played a lot of games (hunting portraits), but then my graphic card broke down a I was like three weeks without some pc/notebook capable of running sc2. By the time the graphic card came back repaired, my passion for game was already left. I played only campaign and like fifty games since then. I just got bored being smacked around for months now. I watched all those tutorial videos on youtube, but I feel I'm just naturally too slow to play this game
I was sort of semi competitive in Warcraft days in our CzechoSlovakian community , so when Starcraft came, I got into diamond in first like 100 games with pure cheese. Then I dropped to bronze to learn game properly and got into platinum really fast. Not played much since then. ^^
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On October 23 2014 20:01 H8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:56 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:55 H8 wrote:On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:48 H8 wrote:
You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time. We should really start playing Why did you stop? I played a lot of games (hunting portraits), but then my graphic card broke down a I was like three weeks without some pc/notebook capable of running sc2. By the time the graphic card came back repaired, my passion for game was already left. I played only campaign and like fifty games since then. I just got bored being smacked around for months now. I watched all those tutorial videos on youtube, but I feel I'm just naturally too slow to play this game I was sort of semi competitive in Warcraft days in our CzechoSlovakian community , so when Starcraft came, I got into diamond in first like 100 games with pure cheese. Then I dropped to bronze to learn game properly and got into platinum really fast. Not played much since then. ^^
Which race do you play?
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On October 23 2014 20:02 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:01 H8 wrote:On October 23 2014 19:56 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:55 H8 wrote:On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:48 H8 wrote:
You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time. We should really start playing Why did you stop? I played a lot of games (hunting portraits), but then my graphic card broke down a I was like three weeks without some pc/notebook capable of running sc2. By the time the graphic card came back repaired, my passion for game was already left. I played only campaign and like fifty games since then. I just got bored being smacked around for months now. I watched all those tutorial videos on youtube, but I feel I'm just naturally too slow to play this game I was sort of semi competitive in Warcraft days in our CzechoSlovakian community , so when Starcraft came, I got into diamond in first like 100 games with pure cheese. Then I dropped to bronze to learn game properly and got into platinum really fast. Not played much since then. ^^ Which race do you play?
Mostly Random, occasionally Protoss and very rarely Zerg.
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On October 23 2014 20:03 H8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:02 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 20:01 H8 wrote:On October 23 2014 19:56 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:55 H8 wrote:On October 23 2014 19:49 Sakat wrote:On October 23 2014 19:48 H8 wrote:
You guys might encourage me to play some Starcraft after very very long time. We should really start playing Why did you stop? I played a lot of games (hunting portraits), but then my graphic card broke down a I was like three weeks without some pc/notebook capable of running sc2. By the time the graphic card came back repaired, my passion for game was already left. I played only campaign and like fifty games since then. I just got bored being smacked around for months now. I watched all those tutorial videos on youtube, but I feel I'm just naturally too slow to play this game I was sort of semi competitive in Warcraft days in our CzechoSlovakian community , so when Starcraft came, I got into diamond in first like 100 games with pure cheese. Then I dropped to bronze to learn game properly and got into platinum really fast. Not played much since then. ^^ Which race do you play? Mostly Random, occasionally Protoss and very rarely Zerg.
I mostly play Protoss, and sometimes Terran. I just spam marines with T. I actually gets me wins lol. I can't play Zerg, they just don't "feel" right to me
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On October 23 2014 19:46 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 19:43 IAmWithStupid wrote:On October 23 2014 19:25 Wintex wrote:
Honestly. Fuck builds and go macro. Just make stuff. If you don't make probes and pylons, you can't do a simple build. Totally agree! Just make 15 marines at a time and win WCS AM and RBBG! Bomber usually makes something like 18 marines at a time... It's ridiculus.
18 marines x 50 minerals = 900 minerals every 25 in game seconds. Don't forget tanks and medivacs (in TvT). Insane macro + endless aggression every minute, every second. That's a way to GrandMasters.
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