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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
December 07 2013 04:21 GMT
#61
Very happy about this
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
December 07 2013 04:35 GMT
#62
mathematically how many times would i have to lose to get to like, 0 MMR
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hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 07 2013 04:47 GMT
#63
On December 07 2013 13:13 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 13:10 hariooo wrote:
On December 07 2013 13:00 pyro19 wrote:
On December 07 2013 12:54 writer22816 wrote:
omg vlave is so stupid, do they not realize that visible MMR will just lead to endless flaming between teammates? They should have just kept matchmaking as it was. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Kappa


MMR is only visible to friends and yourself.Are people even reading this thing before posting?


Responding to posts that end in Kappa will only end in tears for you.

The sarcarsm doesn't make sense because he is making fun of a situation that doesn't exist. It doesn't mean he missed the Twitch emote.


Illogical trolling that provoke responses are still successful.
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
December 07 2013 04:49 GMT
#64
On December 07 2013 13:20 Khai wrote:
I feel this is quite unnecessary, things work well as they are IMO.


While your opinion is very valuable I'm sure to us all, it is clear that for a long time a decent sized group of people have wanted Ranked matchmaking, enough so that Valve is listening and creating this ENTIRELY OPTIONAL thing that you are absolutely not obligated to participate in. I for one feel this is very necessary. After playing 500 games of Dota 2 sometimes it's nice to play in a more competitive setting and to find out your actual skill level compared to the rest.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 04:54:26
December 07 2013 04:53 GMT
#65
Finally.
Glad they stop being stubborn.

Now where is that surrender button
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 07 2013 04:57 GMT
#66
Funny thing about it is that people will call it a competitive setting and then proceed to queue nothing but AP still. Yeah, counterpick chicken and racing to pick FOTM pubstompers is clearly competitive.

Let's stop using the word competitive because that isn't what it is at all. Honestly it's barely reaching 'serious' because the top 1% of players will still be able to build whatever they want on whoever they want. Instead lets describe it as what it is. Ranked. The only difference is now there is a number. People will still be the same and honestly I highly doubt that the majority of people were playing to lose. It'll pretty much be the exact same game, but now with a number to show how much you're not progressing.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
December 07 2013 04:58 GMT
#67
If anything, this just gives trolls a whole new way to make people rage.
Wait.
What if I play on the Russian server for all my ranked matches and only get six bottles?
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
December 07 2013 05:02 GMT
#68
is it true Valve did it due to Korean/Chinese demand?
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 07 2013 05:05 GMT
#69
On December 07 2013 14:02 JP Dayne wrote:
is it true Valve did it due to Korean/Chinese demand?


that would be funny. but its about time, alot of na/eu players want it too.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 07 2013 05:07 GMT
#70
On December 07 2013 13:57 LeLoup wrote:
Funny thing about it is that people will call it a competitive setting and then proceed to queue nothing but AP still. Yeah, counterpick chicken and racing to pick FOTM pubstompers is clearly competitive.

Let's stop using the word competitive because that isn't what it is at all. Honestly it's barely reaching 'serious' because the top 1% of players will still be able to build whatever they want on whoever they want. Instead lets describe it as what it is. Ranked. The only difference is now there is a number. People will still be the same and honestly I highly doubt that the majority of people were playing to lose. It'll pretty much be the exact same game, but now with a number to show how much you're not progressing.

The worst case scenario is this:
Normal: "lol I only do stupid shit in my normal games cause they don't matter"
Ranked: "someone else is partially responsible for my penis size" - we all know how that ends

imho the only competitive/"serious" possible mode is 5n5 with prebuilt teams (aka tmm / scrims), everything else is just... a couple of random strangers thrown together.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
December 07 2013 05:11 GMT
#71
Finally something that I can definitively point to and be like "i'm fucking pro, my teammates noob, fail matchmaking" before I feed 0-10 in my games.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 07 2013 05:13 GMT
#72
On December 07 2013 14:07 r.Evo wrote:
imho the only competitive/"serious" possible mode is 5n5 with prebuilt teams (aka tmm / scrims), everything else is just... a couple of random strangers thrown together.


This is pretty much the entire point that I'm making. People are acting like this is the new age of match making and everything is going to change when in reality nothing at all is going to except you're going to see how slow you really are to progress. I'm curious to see the little things that change though, and I do have to say that the way Valve is handling it is probably the best way they could have.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
December 07 2013 05:17 GMT
#73
I don't understand: how is this more competitive? What is the difference other than being able to see your mmr? People who want to see their mmr can already use a third party, i think.

I have no problem with them implementing this, but I don't see why they would market it as more competitive when all they are doing is having a visible mmr.
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
December 07 2013 05:17 GMT
#74
It's a good patch in my opinion. Regardless of how "meaningful" it is, visible MMR is, it's something a large part of the community has been asking for. If they want it, why not give them the option to see it? I, for one, would love to see if if for no other reason than out of curiosity. And for the competitive person, it's a better gauge of overall "pub skill" than just knowing if you're in normal, high, or v. high.
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 05:20:03
December 07 2013 05:19 GMT
#75
On December 07 2013 13:57 LeLoup wrote:
Funny thing about it is that people will call it a competitive setting and then proceed to queue nothing but AP still. Yeah, counterpick chicken and racing to pick FOTM pubstompers is clearly competitive.

Let's stop using the word competitive because that isn't what it is at all. Honestly it's barely reaching 'serious' because the top 1% of players will still be able to build whatever they want on whoever they want. Instead lets describe it as what it is. Ranked. The only difference is now there is a number. People will still be the same and honestly I highly doubt that the majority of people were playing to lose. It'll pretty much be the exact same game, but now with a number to show how much you're not progressing.

Chinese ranked ladders for DotA 1 have used -AP forever. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Not like any of the drafting modes make sense queueing with 4 randoms.
yango pls
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 07 2013 05:20 GMT
#76
AP is fine, nobody stops you from being the one picking the op heroes. the choice is all yours. i for one will keep randoming, gotta get dat random goldddd, quit hon cuz they removed random gold.
bombsauce
Profile Joined October 2011
United States69 Posts
December 07 2013 05:22 GMT
#77
On December 07 2013 14:17 hzflank wrote:
I don't understand: how is this more competitive? What is the difference other than being able to see your mmr? People who want to see their mmr can already use a third party, i think.

I have no problem with them implementing this, but I don't see why they would market it as more competitive when all they are doing is having a visible mmr.


One thing that I think will change will be the average hero compositions. One poster remarked out it will be very FOTM and I think this is correct.

Whether or not the MMR actually "matters" won't change that people will still probably play more seriously in these games. That will lead to more optimized picks and more and more games that reflect actual competitive Dota, the same way ixdl is relatively similar.

We will probably see a lot less variety in Ranked, which is a bit unfortunate imo, but what're'ya'gonna'do
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14048 Posts
December 07 2013 05:28 GMT
#78
On December 07 2013 12:24 Heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 12:17 LeLoup wrote:
On December 07 2013 12:15 Heyoka wrote:
Now what we need is an actual team ladder where winners get invites to a TI4 qual.


That... actually sounds pretty awful. How about a team ladder that is just more than average MMRs first?


Can you explain what sounds awful about this? How does turning TI into something more than an invite-only event make it worse?

They do this with lol currently for a qualifyer into the lcs (which is a qualifyer for worlds) Its been a great thing that has given new teams the exposure they need to grap a sponsor and get a chance to go pro. Riot does hand them a salery for the weeks they play but they almost always get bought by a team if they get to the next level.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 07 2013 05:33 GMT
#79
well this is crappy. so much for having good games.
SongByungWewt
Profile Joined October 2013
China593 Posts
December 07 2013 05:48 GMT
#80
Goddamn, about damned time Valve did this.
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