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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
January 21 2014 22:46 GMT
#2301
On January 22 2014 07:17 Makro wrote:
it's hard to have an idea of the ranking of players because when you ask nicely at the end of the game no one wants to answer

btw at what point u always have decent game in ranked ? 4000 ? 4500 ?

I'm 4000 and most of my games are what I consider decent (i.e. no stomps, rarely bad team compositions), but looking at myself first there is still a huge potential for improvement, but same with many other players in my games. I still occasionally have facepalm moments and the strategical aspect of taking objectives seems just nonexistant to some.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
January 21 2014 22:47 GMT
#2302
On January 22 2014 07:17 Makro wrote:
it's hard to have an idea of the ranking of players because when you ask nicely at the end of the game no one wants to answer

btw at what point u always have decent game in ranked ? 4000 ? 4500 ?



Usually players answer, but in this game the russians didnt answer. They just said rating ))))). I guess they were pretty high.

You can always have decent games, but i think at 4k points everybody knows what to do. You dont have people not warding or not buying courier. They also know laning and their heros very well. It always helps if you tell people nicely what they should do or generally someone has to take the lead and tell the team what to do otherwise it will be a clusterfuck when 2 people farm while they other 3 go pushing.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 21 2014 23:09 GMT
#2303
On January 22 2014 06:20 sCCrooked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 19:16 Erasme wrote:
On January 21 2014 08:46 sCCrooked wrote:
On January 21 2014 08:27 Erasme wrote:
Actually i do understand what you're saying and if i can carry 4.5k, I will easily win 99% of my games lower 1v9. Also you have a poor understanding of the matchmaking system. Unless you believe that, overnight, a 2k player can become a 5k player. Since you have roughly 200games to place yourself, if you're really good, you will not end up at 2k.


That's not at all what I was saying. It appears you don't understand that I wasn't in any way suggesting that an overnight MMR change of 3k would happen nor would most people interpret it as such. I was not aware the MMR balanced out over 200 games, as I have only played perhaps a quarter of that in total ranked games so far. I guess that design was so that wild swings do not occur often, but all I have been doing since I got placed is steadily rise up. After 50 games, its only +200-300 or so, but I could see how after 150 more, I might have over 1,000 or 2,000 difference made.

Perhaps it just FEELS so ridiculously long because 200 games is a lot of time spent playing for the casuals. A 5k player who only plays 15 games a week probably will have to wait a long time to see where they actually are if they got placed at 3.5k for example.

You don't understand. A 5k player can play 1game a week, if they have the level, they will be placed around 5k. The 200games are the unranked games you have to play to reach lvl 13. In your imaginary world where 6k players get placed at 2k for some unknown reasons, the ranked matchmaking needs to change. Luckily, in reality, it doesn't exist.


Wrong, you are the one who does not understand. Even worse is you do not understand that you do not understand. Your understanding of how the matchmaking system works is extremely poor and the proof is in your own words. When 5k friends invite me to 5k rating games and I perform better than my reciprocal role on the opposing team, its also proof. Your argument is also based on 200 games where you are assuming a completely new player is getting adjusted to the game. What you should really be giving for an example would be an account where a person new to DOTA played the 200 and then gave it to a much stronger player who tries to shoot it up to 5k+. So far, there is no account of anyone managing to do that, while there IS sufficient evidence for the opposing side. I feel sorry for people like you since they can't even tell you are taking the blue pill.

To put it simply, you're dumb. Hey what if the moon was another continent on earth ? Nobody cares, it doesn't happen in reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 21 2014 23:32 GMT
#2304
This topic has run its course, and the discussion is no longer news.
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