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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
December 14 2013 05:03 GMT
#581
I've had solid games so far. I would say similar level of play to before skill wise but people are def trying harder. Counterwards/smoke etc every game on both sides.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 06:17:13
December 14 2013 05:08 GMT
#582
I'm just unsure what the point of a seperate solo rating is if you are queued vs 3/4/5 man stacks. If you're going to do that you may as well have a seperate rating for duo, trio, quad queue or just not even have a solo rating.
HungrySC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States191 Posts
December 14 2013 06:39 GMT
#583
Finished ranking matches with 4113. I really doubt that I'm a top 1% player in Dota. Are MMR inflated or something?
"First say to yourself what you would be; And then do what you have to do. (Epictetus)
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 14 2013 07:13 GMT
#584
Is it just me or everybody and their mama have 4k+?
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
December 14 2013 07:33 GMT
#585
On December 14 2013 16:13 canikizu wrote:
Is it just me or everybody and their mama have 4k+?

I would say people on tl are usually going to be good. I mean what percentage of tl is in masters in sc2?+ Show Spoiler +
Is that even an equivalent?
in addition to that there are liars.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
December 14 2013 07:39 GMT
#586
On December 14 2013 15:39 HungrySC2 wrote:
Finished ranking matches with 4113. I really doubt that I'm a top 1% player in Dota. Are MMR inflated or something?


How many placement matches did you win?
toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
December 14 2013 07:47 GMT
#587
On December 14 2013 12:50 idonthinksobro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 12:42 tehredbanditt wrote:
Finally finished my 10 matches. Got placed 4400 +. If anyone over 4000 wants to que up sometime with me send me a PM.


i wonder if this post would have been the same if they placed you 3600.


idontthinksobro
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
December 14 2013 07:57 GMT
#588
My CM games have been confusing so far... first game we had leshrac go with clockwerck top lane while I ended with a beastmaster competiting in farm with me as a sven... We lost that game eventhough it ended up going better than i would have thought..
Second game I was playing alch vs timber safe lane. Not a fun matchup, especially as the veno that was supporting me arrived in the lane when timber was already level 2. I had shit farm but went midas anyway. Meanwhile our tinker fed to pudge mid and we lost all our T1 and T2 even before we touched one of their towers. Once again I had to buy my own wards and the courrier was still not upgraded 20 min into the game. It's weird because that's not something i ever see anymore in my games.It's probably because i'm often playing support though...
However we somehow turtled for 30 min, lost 2 rax but I sneaked a roshan while they were getting the second one. We ended up defending their push and go mid, take T1/T2, i initiated with aegis, popped backed and used my fresh bkb to kill them all and throne.
Brockster
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany82 Posts
December 14 2013 11:00 GMT
#589
Lost 4 times, last game last pick timber when we had no support into no courier, so i bought as pudge mid, fought against sniper with random gold, meanwhile kunkka solo top died 3 times solo vs a mirana on our safe lane...
Jaug
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden249 Posts
December 14 2013 11:53 GMT
#590
Im getting games with pro level players in. I guess I should take it as a complement.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 14 2013 12:14 GMT
#591
People need to remember that MMR is basted on the pool of players, so until the pool fills out, all of our ratings are going to be pretty high. It's like the WOL beta, when everyone was diamond(highest rank at the time)
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TL+ Member
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
December 14 2013 13:04 GMT
#592
On December 14 2013 21:14 Plansix wrote:
People need to remember that MMR is basted on the pool of players, so until the pool fills out, all of our ratings are going to be pretty high. It's like the WOL beta, when everyone was diamond(highest rank at the time)


I think the MMR is based on the hidden pub MMR everyone had till now but now you can actually see it. Not everyone gets high numbers.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 14 2013 13:16 GMT
#593
my ranked can be considered as an early apocalypse, this is a mess ...
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
December 14 2013 14:37 GMT
#594
On December 14 2013 22:04 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 21:14 Plansix wrote:
People need to remember that MMR is basted on the pool of players, so until the pool fills out, all of our ratings are going to be pretty high. It's like the WOL beta, when everyone was diamond(highest rank at the time)


I think the MMR is based on the hidden pub MMR everyone had till now but now you can actually see it. Not everyone gets high numbers.

yeah it probably does take it into account to some extent atleast when you start playing your first 10 "placement" games

for example Fear went 5-5 in his first 10 games and finished with 5286 solo MMR while I know people who won majority of their first 10 games and finished way lower than that.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
December 14 2013 15:15 GMT
#595
If MMR were based on a small pool of players, it should actually be harder to reach a higher rank. The smaller group is often more hardcore and it's harder to be the top 1% of 100 than it is being the top 1% of 100 thousand. But it doesn't matter in the end, because everything points to it simply adjusting your old MMR. And honestly there's absolutelly no reason why they wouldn't do it that way.
philqatw
Profile Joined December 2013
3 Posts
December 14 2013 15:34 GMT
#596
How Ranked MMR will be calculated? Only in these 10 qualifying games? Or on previous games and these 10 games?
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 15:41:58
December 14 2013 15:40 GMT
#597
On December 15 2013 00:34 philqatw wrote:
How Ranked MMR will be calculated? Only in these 10 qualifying games? Or on previous games and these 10 games?


if i understand it correctly they take ur old hidden MMR and adjust it "a bit" after 10 games. That means that a scrub like me can not start out with dendiMMR.. in ranked matchmaking after winning 10 - 0...... grumblegrunble
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
philqatw
Profile Joined December 2013
3 Posts
December 14 2013 16:04 GMT
#598
On December 15 2013 00:40 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 00:34 philqatw wrote:
How Ranked MMR will be calculated? Only in these 10 qualifying games? Or on previous games and these 10 games?


if i understand it correctly they take ur old hidden MMR and adjust it "a bit" after 10 games. That means that a scrub like me can not start out with dendiMMR.. in ranked matchmaking after winning 10 - 0...... grumblegrunble
however then it is just stupid, because how these 10 games can really change MMR, if i have 3k games :D It only can be fuken hard changing MMR by these 10 games
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
December 14 2013 16:08 GMT
#599
On December 15 2013 01:04 philqatw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 00:40 govie wrote:
On December 15 2013 00:34 philqatw wrote:
How Ranked MMR will be calculated? Only in these 10 qualifying games? Or on previous games and these 10 games?


if i understand it correctly they take ur old hidden MMR and adjust it "a bit" after 10 games. That means that a scrub like me can not start out with dendiMMR.. in ranked matchmaking after winning 10 - 0...... grumblegrunble
however then it is just stupid, because how these 10 games can really change MMR, if i have 3k games :D It only can be fuken hard changing MMR by these 10 games

By changing you uncertainty, making it easier to change your future MMR. But more importantly, why does it need to be easy to change your MMR? You have 3k games, the system should have a good idea of how good you are. If you start winning games you are supposed to lose or the other way around too often, you uncertainty increases and your MMR adjusts anyway.
philqatw
Profile Joined December 2013
3 Posts
December 14 2013 16:17 GMT
#600
On December 15 2013 01:08 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 01:04 philqatw wrote:
On December 15 2013 00:40 govie wrote:
On December 15 2013 00:34 philqatw wrote:
How Ranked MMR will be calculated? Only in these 10 qualifying games? Or on previous games and these 10 games?


if i understand it correctly they take ur old hidden MMR and adjust it "a bit" after 10 games. That means that a scrub like me can not start out with dendiMMR.. in ranked matchmaking after winning 10 - 0...... grumblegrunble
however then it is just stupid, because how these 10 games can really change MMR, if i have 3k games :D It only can be fuken hard changing MMR by these 10 games

By changing you uncertainty, making it easier to change your future MMR. But more importantly, why does it need to be easy to change your MMR? You have 3k games, the system should have a good idea of how good you are. If you start winning games you are supposed to lose or the other way around too often, you uncertainty increases and your MMR adjusts anyway.

That's all is ok. Ranked MMR and Default MMR are different things. Volvo can just use Default MMR as initial Ranked MMR without 10 qualifying games these can change a bit MMR.
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