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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
December 13 2013 12:43 GMT
#541
On December 13 2013 21:09 Teton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 20:35 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
On December 13 2013 19:43 Gevna wrote:
I'm fucked with the lvl 13 condition to play ranked. I use my my main account mostly to play with friends so my MMR got tanked down really hard. But in order to keep playing with them I've made a smurf for me which only has 70 wins and is lvl 6. So I can play ranked in an account which is in normal / high bracket, but can't on my acc placed in really high. And I don't imagine myself tryharding with the people I meet when I play with my friends, this would be masochism :o

I'm pretty sure your ranked MMR won't take your unranked MMR into account so everyone has to start from the bottom no matter where the used to play unranked.


That's sjust silly bc TMM uses your unranked mmr as baseline


Yeah as a baseline, then, if he's really better than when he normally play with friends, he'll win those placement matches and get his real MMR anyway. People finding the silliest excuse to not say they're bad. Here, i'll say it for you: we're all bad at this game.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 12:44 GMT
#542
Quick question. Ranked MMR starts at 1000 for everybody or do they copy your MMR from your hidden unranked MMR and go from there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
December 13 2013 12:52 GMT
#543
On December 13 2013 21:44 Koshi wrote:
Quick question. Ranked MMR starts at 1000 for everybody or do they copy your MMR from your hidden unranked MMR and go from there.


Answered in the post before yours.

And the answer is: currently no one knows for sure.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 13:01 GMT
#544
On December 13 2013 21:52 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 21:44 Koshi wrote:
Quick question. Ranked MMR starts at 1000 for everybody or do they copy your MMR from your hidden unranked MMR and go from there.


Answered in the post before yours.

And the answer is: currently no one knows for sure.

Thx.
I had a good night of sleep.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
December 13 2013 13:26 GMT
#545
How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks?
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
December 13 2013 13:50 GMT
#546
On December 13 2013 21:43 Gheizen64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 21:09 Teton wrote:
On December 13 2013 20:35 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
On December 13 2013 19:43 Gevna wrote:
I'm fucked with the lvl 13 condition to play ranked. I use my my main account mostly to play with friends so my MMR got tanked down really hard. But in order to keep playing with them I've made a smurf for me which only has 70 wins and is lvl 6. So I can play ranked in an account which is in normal / high bracket, but can't on my acc placed in really high. And I don't imagine myself tryharding with the people I meet when I play with my friends, this would be masochism :o

I'm pretty sure your ranked MMR won't take your unranked MMR into account so everyone has to start from the bottom no matter where the used to play unranked.


That's sjust silly bc TMM uses your unranked mmr as baseline


Yeah as a baseline, then, if he's really better than when he normally play with friends, he'll win those placement matches and get his real MMR anyway. People finding the silliest excuse to not say they're bad. Here, i'll say it for you: we're all bad at this game.

Please don't make judgement on the fly like that. I'm not talking about being good or bad, I'm not bragging. I just know there is a big difference between my two accounts, and I just want to be ranked accordingly with my skill. If you're right and I can make up for the dozens of loss I got in normal bracket with few wins alone well that's nice.

Anyway I will see, I'm not really whining, I'm just afraid I have to play hundred of matches before I can be ranked on my smurf.
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
December 13 2013 13:51 GMT
#547
On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote:
How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks?

There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
December 13 2013 15:09 GMT
#548
Are EU servers stuck or something? Dota 2 Network problems all over again after this ranked patch...
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
December 13 2013 15:18 GMT
#549
On December 14 2013 00:09 Aelfric wrote:
Are EU servers stuck or something? Dota 2 Network problems all over again after this ranked patch...

Had that problem on US servers before work.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 13 2013 15:57 GMT
#550
On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote:
How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks?

There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man.


Wow seriously?

Thats absurd...
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 13 2013 16:03 GMT
#551
On December 14 2013 00:57 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote:
How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks?

There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man.


Wow seriously?

Thats absurd...

I think he's full of shit. The only thing that happened is that they removed the "don't match me with parties when solo." Which they probably did because if you had unranked parties/solo, ranked parties/solo and all the different gamemodes, you would either have 15+ minutes queue times or terribly mismatched games, there's no way around it. That being said, one of Valve's points in the blog post about matchmaking was: "Each team contains about the same number of parties. For example, the matchmaker tries to avoid matching a party of 5 against against 5 individual players."

So it's probably safe to assume that 5 solo players against a 5 stack will never happen. Unless you queue for portugal language, on an african server with only least played mode, or something.
super gg
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 16:12:55
December 13 2013 16:10 GMT
#552
solo players plays against 5 stacks but probably with a 2-3-4 stack on his team. it honestly doesnt matter if your stacking or not unless you are stacking with actually good players.

if anything stacking with medicore players makes the game harder. but hey if they are your friends whocares, i q with master wysp aka hans2.0 aka goes 2-15 with legion commander.
dOTY
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany483 Posts
December 13 2013 16:15 GMT
#553
On December 14 2013 00:09 Aelfric wrote:
Are EU servers stuck or something? Dota 2 Network problems all over again after this ranked patch...


Same, was able to play 1 game today, cant connect to any ever since.
It’s cool to cry, don’t ever question your strength .
devilesk
Profile Joined May 2005
United States140 Posts
December 13 2013 17:16 GMT
#554
On December 13 2013 15:27 NB wrote:
man... i played 3 ranked match solo queue. All i got were parties stacked up and fail together... making the game really 1 sided. Im fortunate enough to get 3-0 but im sure i will soon be on the less lucky side . Really dont feel like good games, at least not as fun as my usual pubs matches.


It should be expected that ranked matchmaking, less than a day in with players still playing calibration matches, won't provide the same quality of match as the regular matchmaking does which has been running for a couple years now.
www.devilesk.com/dota2
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 17:26:46
December 13 2013 17:26 GMT
#555
On December 14 2013 02:16 devilesk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 15:27 NB wrote:
man... i played 3 ranked match solo queue. All i got were parties stacked up and fail together... making the game really 1 sided. Im fortunate enough to get 3-0 but im sure i will soon be on the less lucky side . Really dont feel like good games, at least not as fun as my usual pubs matches.


It should be expected that ranked matchmaking, less than a day in with players still playing calibration matches, won't provide the same quality of match as the regular matchmaking does which has been running for a couple years now.

oh no, dont get me wrong, i got good players. All the players i got matched with are, at very least, could perform around semi pro level in the game. However the problem comes from the nature of not being an actually team which results uncoordinated action while everyone were under the expectation of having a high level match. This leads to the game becomes 1 sided despite similar skill level that the matchmaking guaranteed. I guess I will have to play more to see if things change.

TLDR: the mm is correct but the games arent fun
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
December 13 2013 19:24 GMT
#556
meh i'm having a better experience with ranked than i do in unranked games
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
December 13 2013 19:57 GMT
#557
On December 14 2013 01:03 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 00:57 -Celestial- wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote:
How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks?

There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man.


Wow seriously?

Thats absurd...

I think he's full of shit. The only thing that happened is that they removed the "don't match me with parties when solo." Which they probably did because if you had unranked parties/solo, ranked parties/solo and all the different gamemodes, you would either have 15+ minutes queue times or terribly mismatched games, there's no way around it. That being said, one of Valve's points in the blog post about matchmaking was: "Each team contains about the same number of parties. For example, the matchmaker tries to avoid matching a party of 5 against against 5 individual players."

So it's probably safe to assume that 5 solo players against a 5 stack will never happen. Unless you queue for portugal language, on an african server with only least played mode, or something.


my first game was 5 solo players against a 5 stack.

We got fucking CRUSHED,
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 13 2013 20:42 GMT
#558
On December 14 2013 04:57 tpmraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 01:03 cecek wrote:
On December 14 2013 00:57 -Celestial- wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote:
How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks?

There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man.


Wow seriously?

Thats absurd...

I think he's full of shit. The only thing that happened is that they removed the "don't match me with parties when solo." Which they probably did because if you had unranked parties/solo, ranked parties/solo and all the different gamemodes, you would either have 15+ minutes queue times or terribly mismatched games, there's no way around it. That being said, one of Valve's points in the blog post about matchmaking was: "Each team contains about the same number of parties. For example, the matchmaker tries to avoid matching a party of 5 against against 5 individual players."

So it's probably safe to assume that 5 solo players against a 5 stack will never happen. Unless you queue for portugal language, on an african server with only least played mode, or something.


my first game was 5 solo players against a 5 stack.

We got fucking CRUSHED,


Oh god the QQQ thread is gonna be gud this week
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
December 13 2013 21:02 GMT
#559
On December 14 2013 05:42 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 04:57 tpmraven wrote:
On December 14 2013 01:03 cecek wrote:
On December 14 2013 00:57 -Celestial- wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote:
How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks?

There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man.


Wow seriously?

Thats absurd...

I think he's full of shit. The only thing that happened is that they removed the "don't match me with parties when solo." Which they probably did because if you had unranked parties/solo, ranked parties/solo and all the different gamemodes, you would either have 15+ minutes queue times or terribly mismatched games, there's no way around it. That being said, one of Valve's points in the blog post about matchmaking was: "Each team contains about the same number of parties. For example, the matchmaker tries to avoid matching a party of 5 against against 5 individual players."

So it's probably safe to assume that 5 solo players against a 5 stack will never happen. Unless you queue for portugal language, on an african server with only least played mode, or something.


my first game was 5 solo players against a 5 stack.

We got fucking CRUSHED,


Oh god the QQQ thread is gonna be gud this week

I had a leaver in my 2nd ranked game and the 3rd one had an obious 1st timer on LC who got crushed. Whatever, I don't give a shit, people were nicer than in usual games and the skill level was the same. As soon as I can see Meepo or any other unusual heroes from times to times in ranked games, I'm fine with it. It sux there are so few modes in ranked or that we can't queue for ranked and not ranked at the same time. I'm so tired of BH and NP at the moment, they're in 90% of my games and they all play the exact same way except for the very rare skilled NP who actually help his team.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
December 13 2013 21:08 GMT
#560
I hate All Pick. So used to playing AR and RD, forgot why I hated AP so much
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
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