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On December 13 2013 21:09 Teton wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 20:35 ZerG~LegenD wrote:On December 13 2013 19:43 Gevna wrote: I'm fucked with the lvl 13 condition to play ranked. I use my my main account mostly to play with friends so my MMR got tanked down really hard. But in order to keep playing with them I've made a smurf for me which only has 70 wins and is lvl 6. So I can play ranked in an account which is in normal / high bracket, but can't on my acc placed in really high. And I don't imagine myself tryharding with the people I meet when I play with my friends, this would be masochism :o I'm pretty sure your ranked MMR won't take your unranked MMR into account so everyone has to start from the bottom no matter where the used to play unranked. That's sjust silly bc TMM uses your unranked mmr as baseline
Yeah as a baseline, then, if he's really better than when he normally play with friends, he'll win those placement matches and get his real MMR anyway. People finding the silliest excuse to not say they're bad. Here, i'll say it for you: we're all bad at this game.
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Quick question. Ranked MMR starts at 1000 for everybody or do they copy your MMR from your hidden unranked MMR and go from there.
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On December 13 2013 21:44 Koshi wrote: Quick question. Ranked MMR starts at 1000 for everybody or do they copy your MMR from your hidden unranked MMR and go from there.
Answered in the post before yours.
And the answer is: currently no one knows for sure.
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On December 13 2013 21:52 Laurens wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 21:44 Koshi wrote: Quick question. Ranked MMR starts at 1000 for everybody or do they copy your MMR from your hidden unranked MMR and go from there. Answered in the post before yours. And the answer is: currently no one knows for sure. Thx.
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How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks?
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On December 13 2013 21:43 Gheizen64 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 21:09 Teton wrote:On December 13 2013 20:35 ZerG~LegenD wrote:On December 13 2013 19:43 Gevna wrote: I'm fucked with the lvl 13 condition to play ranked. I use my my main account mostly to play with friends so my MMR got tanked down really hard. But in order to keep playing with them I've made a smurf for me which only has 70 wins and is lvl 6. So I can play ranked in an account which is in normal / high bracket, but can't on my acc placed in really high. And I don't imagine myself tryharding with the people I meet when I play with my friends, this would be masochism :o I'm pretty sure your ranked MMR won't take your unranked MMR into account so everyone has to start from the bottom no matter where the used to play unranked. That's sjust silly bc TMM uses your unranked mmr as baseline Yeah as a baseline, then, if he's really better than when he normally play with friends, he'll win those placement matches and get his real MMR anyway. People finding the silliest excuse to not say they're bad. Here, i'll say it for you: we're all bad at this game. Please don't make judgement on the fly like that. I'm not talking about being good or bad, I'm not bragging. I just know there is a big difference between my two accounts, and I just want to be ranked accordingly with my skill. If you're right and I can make up for the dozens of loss I got in normal bracket with few wins alone well that's nice.
Anyway I will see, I'm not really whining, I'm just afraid I have to play hundred of matches before I can be ranked on my smurf.
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On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote: How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks? There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man.
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Are EU servers stuck or something? Dota 2 Network problems all over again after this ranked patch...
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On December 14 2013 00:09 Aelfric wrote: Are EU servers stuck or something? Dota 2 Network problems all over again after this ranked patch... Had that problem on US servers before work.
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On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote: How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks? There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man.
Wow seriously?
Thats absurd...
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On December 14 2013 00:57 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote: How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks? There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man. Wow seriously? Thats absurd... I think he's full of shit. The only thing that happened is that they removed the "don't match me with parties when solo." Which they probably did because if you had unranked parties/solo, ranked parties/solo and all the different gamemodes, you would either have 15+ minutes queue times or terribly mismatched games, there's no way around it. That being said, one of Valve's points in the blog post about matchmaking was: "Each team contains about the same number of parties. For example, the matchmaker tries to avoid matching a party of 5 against against 5 individual players."
So it's probably safe to assume that 5 solo players against a 5 stack will never happen. Unless you queue for portugal language, on an african server with only least played mode, or something.
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solo players plays against 5 stacks but probably with a 2-3-4 stack on his team. it honestly doesnt matter if your stacking or not unless you are stacking with actually good players.
if anything stacking with medicore players makes the game harder. but hey if they are your friends whocares, i q with master wysp aka hans2.0 aka goes 2-15 with legion commander.
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On December 14 2013 00:09 Aelfric wrote: Are EU servers stuck or something? Dota 2 Network problems all over again after this ranked patch...
Same, was able to play 1 game today, cant connect to any ever since.
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On December 13 2013 15:27 NB wrote:man... i played 3 ranked match solo queue. All i got were parties stacked up and fail together... making the game really 1 sided. Im fortunate enough to get 3-0 but im sure i will soon be on the less lucky side  . Really dont feel like good games, at least not as fun as my usual pubs matches.
It should be expected that ranked matchmaking, less than a day in with players still playing calibration matches, won't provide the same quality of match as the regular matchmaking does which has been running for a couple years now.
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On December 14 2013 02:16 devilesk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 15:27 NB wrote:man... i played 3 ranked match solo queue. All i got were parties stacked up and fail together... making the game really 1 sided. Im fortunate enough to get 3-0 but im sure i will soon be on the less lucky side  . Really dont feel like good games, at least not as fun as my usual pubs matches. It should be expected that ranked matchmaking, less than a day in with players still playing calibration matches, won't provide the same quality of match as the regular matchmaking does which has been running for a couple years now. oh no, dont get me wrong, i got good players. All the players i got matched with are, at very least, could perform around semi pro level in the game. However the problem comes from the nature of not being an actually team which results uncoordinated action while everyone were under the expectation of having a high level match. This leads to the game becomes 1 sided despite similar skill level that the matchmaking guaranteed. I guess I will have to play more to see if things change.
TLDR: the mm is correct but the games arent fun
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meh i'm having a better experience with ranked than i do in unranked games
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On December 14 2013 01:03 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 00:57 -Celestial- wrote:On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote: How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks? There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man. Wow seriously? Thats absurd... I think he's full of shit. The only thing that happened is that they removed the "don't match me with parties when solo." Which they probably did because if you had unranked parties/solo, ranked parties/solo and all the different gamemodes, you would either have 15+ minutes queue times or terribly mismatched games, there's no way around it. That being said, one of Valve's points in the blog post about matchmaking was: "Each team contains about the same number of parties. For example, the matchmaker tries to avoid matching a party of 5 against against 5 individual players." So it's probably safe to assume that 5 solo players against a 5 stack will never happen. Unless you queue for portugal language, on an african server with only least played mode, or something.
my first game was 5 solo players against a 5 stack.
We got fucking CRUSHED,
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On December 14 2013 04:57 tpmraven wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 01:03 cecek wrote:On December 14 2013 00:57 -Celestial- wrote:On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote: How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks? There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man. Wow seriously? Thats absurd... I think he's full of shit. The only thing that happened is that they removed the "don't match me with parties when solo." Which they probably did because if you had unranked parties/solo, ranked parties/solo and all the different gamemodes, you would either have 15+ minutes queue times or terribly mismatched games, there's no way around it. That being said, one of Valve's points in the blog post about matchmaking was: "Each team contains about the same number of parties. For example, the matchmaker tries to avoid matching a party of 5 against against 5 individual players." So it's probably safe to assume that 5 solo players against a 5 stack will never happen. Unless you queue for portugal language, on an african server with only least played mode, or something. my first game was 5 solo players against a 5 stack. We got fucking CRUSHED,
Oh god the QQQ thread is gonna be gud this week
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On December 14 2013 05:42 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 04:57 tpmraven wrote:On December 14 2013 01:03 cecek wrote:On December 14 2013 00:57 -Celestial- wrote:On December 13 2013 22:51 ZerG~LegenD wrote:On December 13 2013 22:26 rob.au wrote: How does it work when you play with a friend? Does playing with 1 friend open you up to getting queued vs 5 man stacks? There's no party restrictions in ranked, you can solo-queue into a 5-man. Wow seriously? Thats absurd... I think he's full of shit. The only thing that happened is that they removed the "don't match me with parties when solo." Which they probably did because if you had unranked parties/solo, ranked parties/solo and all the different gamemodes, you would either have 15+ minutes queue times or terribly mismatched games, there's no way around it. That being said, one of Valve's points in the blog post about matchmaking was: "Each team contains about the same number of parties. For example, the matchmaker tries to avoid matching a party of 5 against against 5 individual players." So it's probably safe to assume that 5 solo players against a 5 stack will never happen. Unless you queue for portugal language, on an african server with only least played mode, or something. my first game was 5 solo players against a 5 stack. We got fucking CRUSHED, Oh god the QQQ thread is gonna be gud this week  I had a leaver in my 2nd ranked game and the 3rd one had an obious 1st timer on LC who got crushed. Whatever, I don't give a shit, people were nicer than in usual games and the skill level was the same. As soon as I can see Meepo or any other unusual heroes from times to times in ranked games, I'm fine with it. It sux there are so few modes in ranked or that we can't queue for ranked and not ranked at the same time. I'm so tired of BH and NP at the moment, they're in 90% of my games and they all play the exact same way except for the very rare skilled NP who actually help his team.
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I hate All Pick. So used to playing AR and RD, forgot why I hated AP so much
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