EPTOn December 10 2013 03:15 aintz wrote:
what makes good games? oh right players not heroes.
what makes good games? oh right players not heroes.
Pretty much. Good players alays leads to good games, whatever heroes they pick
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Teton
France1656 Posts
Pretty much. Good players alays leads to good games, whatever heroes they pick | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On December 10 2013 03:22 Sn0_Man wrote: According to Volvo its the gold difference at the end of the game times the amount of time since the gold graph was 0, more or less. Pretty derp imo, not sure. Nope. According to Valve that's one of several factors they look into. It's not like there's a magic number that will give you match quality. If you want to attempt to measure it in any way, diference in gold earned is definatelly a relevant metric. And even if Valve's method isn't that accurate after taking every metric into account, that's only an issue if they pretend it's accurate. But noone knows how much emphasis they put into "match quality". | ||
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NotYango
United States719 Posts
On December 10 2013 00:14 dismiss wrote: I'd actually really like to see a mode similar to LoLs ranked queues introduced. You get to ban and pick heroes in a set order, but rather than having one guy pick for the whole team, everyone gets to pick their own.n_n Bans have virtually no impact on solo queue games honestly. TBH I've said for ages that bans have very little practical impact on solo ranked games in League too. Solo queue as a mode fundamentally has a greater emphasis on individual hero strength, so it's natural that certain picks that are strong on their own impact the mode--but adding bans doesn't change this. You just move down to the next level of strong solo queue heroes and the relative power is the exact same, just with those few top picks removed. It doesn't improve the quality of the gameplay because instead of heroes A, B, and C being the "OP" picks, now, D, E and F are. Banning only really has a meaningful impact on the game in a team setting where you ban for reasons other than "I think this hero is too strong". | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On December 07 2013 12:08 Heyoka wrote: 5% 1100 Does anybody know if these numbers correlate directly to TMM Rating? | ||
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Unleashing
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On December 10 2013 03:41 aintz wrote: they do not, everyone and their mothers is 4k+ in tmm. Thats pretty much the way I saw it too LOL. Maybe the TMM ranking includes the adjustments for 5-stacking | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
-- Ranked match making added to Dota 2. -- Techies added to Dota 2. -- Techies disabled in Captain's Mode. (Available in all other modes, including Ranked All Pick) | ||
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Sagle
United States25 Posts
On December 10 2013 03:34 Sn0_Man wrote: Does anybody know if these numbers correlate directly to TMM Rating? I was wondering the same thing myself, its not too terribly hard to check though. dotabuff has all the TMM teams and ranks, so if you felt like crunching a metric butt load of number then its certainly possible. (Personally I'm hoping someone else knows  ) | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
then we real moba | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Theres like 2 pages of teams below 1.2K and 20 pages of teams above 4500 though so I find it hard to believe it's exact lol. I'm guessing it includes the skew for 5-stack. | ||
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dismiss
United Kingdom3341 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On December 10 2013 05:15 Sn0_Man wrote: It can't be exact but it might be close. Theres like 2 pages of teams below 1.2K and 20 pages of teams above 4500 though so I find it hard to believe it's exact lol. I'm guessing it includes the skew for 5-stack. That's probably because people in the top 1% are far, far more likely to be interested in TMM than people in the bottom 10%. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
(850 pages of teams) I guess theres also the fact that some players are on like 6 ranked teams. | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
mexican standoff counterpick bs at the start of the game already ruins the game. players picking random as 4rd or last pick also can ruin the game (picking random first or 2nd is fine) just starting with a disadvantage because of picks (counterpick, fotm pick, tryhard combo picks with no chance to ban) (assuming equal skill) is really annoying. | ||
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NotYango
United States719 Posts
On December 10 2013 05:20 Pokebunny wrote: That's probably because people in the top 1% are far, far more likely to be interested in TMM than people in the bottom 10%. In which case it's stupid for TMM to be using solo MMR like that. If only the top 1% are playing TMM, then their TMM rating should be spreading out over the entire MMR range, not compressed into the top % that they represent. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On December 10 2013 06:06 NotYango wrote: In which case it's stupid for TMM to be using solo MMR like that. If only the top 1% are playing TMM, then their TMM rating should be spreading out over the entire MMR range, not compressed into the top % that they represent. I mean, I was just explaining a possibility.. I think we all know the entire TMM system needs a rework. | ||
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Adron
Netherlands839 Posts
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govie
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On December 10 2013 05:56 idonthinksobro wrote: mexican standoff counterpick bs at the start of the game already ruins the game. players picking random as 4rd or last pick also can ruin the game (picking random first or 2nd is fine) just starting with a disadvantage because of picks (counterpick, fotm pick, tryhard combo picks with no chance to ban) (assuming equal skill) is really annoying. ` A good game for me, is when in basketball the game is decided by a buzzerbeater, or in overtime. I can play shit but there is tension, the longer it drags on, the fatter i get, the more i feel the need of winning. I am not competitive at all, i just enjoy good games. But games i most enjoy are the buzzerbeatergames, where both teams are just ridiculous and 1 action of 1 player breaks the equilibrium, so awesome i dont even have to win or play good to enjoy the match afterwards  #buzzerbeatergames man!!! | ||
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