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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#481
On December 11 2013 21:41 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 21:34 iv~nk~j wrote:
On December 11 2013 21:27 paralleluniverse wrote:
What if it's a new account of an experience player?

That's exactly what Valve doesn't in the ranked pool, i.e smurfs

I see.

You have to play 150 games before being able to play ranked. Pretty big investment of time for a smurf account.
energeticx
Profile Joined December 2013
25 Posts
December 12 2013 09:24 GMT
#482
On December 11 2013 21:06 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 19:18 J_aY wrote:
Why is everyone going on about Crystal Maiden? I'm sure shell be the same in the ranked matches as she is now ':D'

Nah tis good makes me wanna play the game again! (:


Good for you

But 99% of the people crying for ranked MM will be faced against the same peeps as they were before. People overestimate there skills to much. U wont be put in the serious section or never reach it. Someone will still pick CM and not buy the wards/donkey whole game and get a better kda then u. U will still flame the bitch and try to forget that she had a better kda to start with, and u as a player basically sucked that game.. so painfull, we try not to see certain facts and our own mistakes! haha

#true-story-for-most-players


THIS. Totally agree. Although one would hope that people would be more sane everyone will probably still have the "I don't want to support noobs" idea.
yotis
Profile Joined September 2011
Czech Republic652 Posts
December 12 2013 09:48 GMT
#483
On December 12 2013 18:24 energeticx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 21:06 govie wrote:
On December 11 2013 19:18 J_aY wrote:
Why is everyone going on about Crystal Maiden? I'm sure shell be the same in the ranked matches as she is now ':D'

Nah tis good makes me wanna play the game again! (:


Good for you

But 99% of the people crying for ranked MM will be faced against the same peeps as they were before. People overestimate there skills to much. U wont be put in the serious section or never reach it. Someone will still pick CM and not buy the wards/donkey whole game and get a better kda then u. U will still flame the bitch and try to forget that she had a better kda to start with, and u as a player basically sucked that game.. so painfull, we try not to see certain facts and our own mistakes! haha

#true-story-for-most-players


THIS. Totally agree. Although one would hope that people would be more sane everyone will probably still have the "I don't want to support noobs" idea.


I don't agree with this at all. Maybe in few coming months, this is possible to happen. But not in the long run. People will realize that proper playing of their role will result in better win rate and adjust accordingly. Of course you will have idiots, but much lower chance to get them compared to present.
are they lost forever?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 12 2013 10:11 GMT
#484
On December 12 2013 18:48 yotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 18:24 energeticx wrote:
On December 11 2013 21:06 govie wrote:
On December 11 2013 19:18 J_aY wrote:
Why is everyone going on about Crystal Maiden? I'm sure shell be the same in the ranked matches as she is now ':D'

Nah tis good makes me wanna play the game again! (:


Good for you

But 99% of the people crying for ranked MM will be faced against the same peeps as they were before. People overestimate there skills to much. U wont be put in the serious section or never reach it. Someone will still pick CM and not buy the wards/donkey whole game and get a better kda then u. U will still flame the bitch and try to forget that she had a better kda to start with, and u as a player basically sucked that game.. so painfull, we try not to see certain facts and our own mistakes! haha

#true-story-for-most-players


THIS. Totally agree. Although one would hope that people would be more sane everyone will probably still have the "I don't want to support noobs" idea.


I don't agree with this at all. Maybe in few coming months, this is possible to happen. But not in the long run. People will realize that proper playing of their role will result in better win rate and adjust accordingly. Of course you will have idiots, but much lower chance to get them compared to present.


You obviously haven't played many games with ranked match-making...
Average means I'm better than half of you.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
December 12 2013 10:38 GMT
#485
it would be epic to search for games depending on your role.

tick boxes like "Mid, Jungle, Support..." and be paired up with a good mix of people, instead of shite picks.
or just make it CM and CD only. but I'm still not convinced by ranked AP.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 12 2013 10:55 GMT
#486
On December 12 2013 19:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 18:48 yotis wrote:
On December 12 2013 18:24 energeticx wrote:
On December 11 2013 21:06 govie wrote:
On December 11 2013 19:18 J_aY wrote:
Why is everyone going on about Crystal Maiden? I'm sure shell be the same in the ranked matches as she is now ':D'

Nah tis good makes me wanna play the game again! (:


Good for you

But 99% of the people crying for ranked MM will be faced against the same peeps as they were before. People overestimate there skills to much. U wont be put in the serious section or never reach it. Someone will still pick CM and not buy the wards/donkey whole game and get a better kda then u. U will still flame the bitch and try to forget that she had a better kda to start with, and u as a player basically sucked that game.. so painfull, we try not to see certain facts and our own mistakes! haha

#true-story-for-most-players


THIS. Totally agree. Although one would hope that people would be more sane everyone will probably still have the "I don't want to support noobs" idea.


I don't agree with this at all. Maybe in few coming months, this is possible to happen. But not in the long run. People will realize that proper playing of their role will result in better win rate and adjust accordingly. Of course you will have idiots, but much lower chance to get them compared to present.


You obviously haven't played many games with ranked match-making...


I dont care about my MMR at all. When we are put together ur gonna have a bad time if i try my famous CM carry build over and over.

I like the idea from picking a role but since the gamestrats change, i dont think is viable. Playes should find there own teamstrats. We allready have the picture to place urself in a lane. It should suffice.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 12 2013 11:41 GMT
#487
Oh god, I'm getting ladder fear already haha
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
December 12 2013 13:02 GMT
#488
On December 12 2013 19:38 sCuMBaG wrote:
it would be epic to search for games depending on your role.

tick boxes like "Mid, Jungle, Support..." and be paired up with a good mix of people, instead of shite picks.
or just make it CM and CD only. but I'm still not convinced by ranked AP.


It would be nice, but has the obvious problem of many heroes being able to be played in different roles.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 12 2013 13:47 GMT
#489
On December 12 2013 22:02 rob.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 19:38 sCuMBaG wrote:
it would be epic to search for games depending on your role.

tick boxes like "Mid, Jungle, Support..." and be paired up with a good mix of people, instead of shite picks.
or just make it CM and CD only. but I'm still not convinced by ranked AP.


It would be nice, but has the obvious problem of many heroes being able to be played in different roles.

Or what about people that want to duo mid? how do you determine teams that want to trilane? If every game was 1 carry 1 off laner 1 mid 1 support 1 jungler it would be fucking awful, i don't see such a system ever truly working.
There are too many variables for it to be effective and good. And nothing prevents people from still picking a team that is awful even with such a system.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
December 12 2013 15:41 GMT
#490
On December 12 2013 20:41 Torte de Lini wrote:
Oh god, I'm getting ladder fear already haha


;X i feel you
thehacker0
Profile Joined December 2013
2 Posts
December 12 2013 15:49 GMT
#491
It unlocks at level 13, so if you had >150 games in beta, but less than rank 13, you are screwed my friend (I have 200 games but only like 75 since beta)
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
December 12 2013 15:55 GMT
#492
On December 12 2013 18:48 yotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 18:24 energeticx wrote:
On December 11 2013 21:06 govie wrote:
On December 11 2013 19:18 J_aY wrote:
Why is everyone going on about Crystal Maiden? I'm sure shell be the same in the ranked matches as she is now ':D'

Nah tis good makes me wanna play the game again! (:


Good for you

But 99% of the people crying for ranked MM will be faced against the same peeps as they were before. People overestimate there skills to much. U wont be put in the serious section or never reach it. Someone will still pick CM and not buy the wards/donkey whole game and get a better kda then u. U will still flame the bitch and try to forget that she had a better kda to start with, and u as a player basically sucked that game.. so painfull, we try not to see certain facts and our own mistakes! haha

#true-story-for-most-players


THIS. Totally agree. Although one would hope that people would be more sane everyone will probably still have the "I don't want to support noobs" idea.


I don't agree with this at all. Maybe in few coming months, this is possible to happen. But not in the long run. People will realize that proper playing of their role will result in better win rate and adjust accordingly. Of course you will have idiots, but much lower chance to get them compared to present.


Playing support has been great for my winrate, but terrible for my DSR.

This is clearly going to correlate in ranked matchmaking.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#493
Hnnnng so many people are gonna be jamming ranked matchmaking tonight trying to get their 10 games in. Gotta get dat number.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
December 12 2013 16:19 GMT
#494
On December 11 2013 09:38 KingRaven wrote:
Loved this thread.

Couple of things.

DRD played SK Gaming once with Testie on it. WaC (probably one of the very best all-around HoN players ever) absolutely buried Testie's FA alive with Soul Stealer, back when we had WaC and Moonmeander` on the team.

1-0 there. Cold stomp.

Played against his Panda in a game. Basically, you have just know how the testie stack works. Would call to go 'fake gank' Testie, his entire team would Tp in, we'd just walk away. Anyway, beat him again on his stream. Testie would have a fit if I joined any game after being appropriately dumpstered hardcore. He faded from HoN inhouses and become 'the best' HoN player and started making a business model.

the best hon player's' going rate 15/hr.

My company hired one of the best engineering database architects in the business, roughly 500/hr, and we ended up paying him over 175k in a few months for a design implementation.

There are so many more aspiring things to be the best in. Sadly, gaming isn't one of them, and everyone in this topic, but testie (hence force known as 'Chump Change'), has the luxury of leaving their own computer and aspiring to things past gaming.

You can log into chump change's stream at any time and see him gaming on a smurf with some 'customers'. Livin' the life, chump change. Everyone has other ladders they wanna climb, notably one called real life, chump change.

So cool down there. No one is impressed with your curriculum vitae of gaming but yourself.


You're still around? I figured you went out with HoN. Testie is a mannered member of our site, and we don't need the drama here.
Spyisaspy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States183 Posts
December 12 2013 16:26 GMT
#495
I'm just wondeirng, will the wins we get before ranked matchmaking (like normal pubs) stay?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 12 2013 16:27 GMT
#496
On December 13 2013 01:26 Spyisaspy wrote:
I'm just wondeirng, will the wins we get before ranked matchmaking (like normal pubs) stay?

Nobody knows but valve says its based on "level" which means ur fuk'd. Could try contacting support
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 12 2013 16:29 GMT
#497
On December 13 2013 01:26 Spyisaspy wrote:
I'm just wondeirng, will the wins we get before ranked matchmaking (like normal pubs) stay?

Do you mean wins you got before they brought in the level system?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Spyisaspy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States183 Posts
December 12 2013 16:29 GMT
#498
On December 13 2013 01:29 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 01:26 Spyisaspy wrote:
I'm just wondeirng, will the wins we get before ranked matchmaking (like normal pubs) stay?

Do you mean wins you got before they brought in the level system?

I guess
Spyisaspy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States183 Posts
December 12 2013 16:30 GMT
#499
On December 13 2013 01:29 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 01:26 Spyisaspy wrote:
I'm just wondeirng, will the wins we get before ranked matchmaking (like normal pubs) stay?

Do you mean wins you got before they brought in the level system?

I'm like over 100 (thank you based TI3 bp booster)
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 12 2013 16:32 GMT
#500
On December 13 2013 01:29 Spyisaspy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 01:29 ahswtini wrote:
On December 13 2013 01:26 Spyisaspy wrote:
I'm just wondeirng, will the wins we get before ranked matchmaking (like normal pubs) stay?

Do you mean wins you got before they brought in the level system?

I guess

Probably not. Unless they "scale" accounts that have high numbers of games played but very low levels.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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