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On December 09 2013 23:50 St0rmRush wrote: "Ranked matchmaking is unlocked after approximately 150 games."
Do i have to play 150 matches after the patch is released to go ranked ? right now i have 819 matches played
I guess you can. Otherwise it takes a few months for most of us to reach that number.
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On December 09 2013 22:30 idonthinksobro wrote: the high mmr differance games are already a problem today, if you queue with players that are worse than you are you will have really easy games if you pick something with a lot of solo-kill potential or a carry that isn't completly helpless early.
A lot of streamers do subscriber games (subs are usually way worse than the streamer), if you watch a game of them playing with subs it is usually that the streamer has to hardcarry the team or lose.
i very much doubt people will intentionally queue with those worse than them in what will become the tryhard ranked mode
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On December 09 2013 23:52 -Celestial- wrote: Ranked AP is just hillarious as a concept. Its going to be a race to see which team can pick the overpowered, flavour of the month, in-meta heroes the fastest. Except for that one guy who insists on going carry Crystal Maiden because "rofl is just a game" and proceeds to feed with boots first no regen.
I predict much, much rage over lost ranking. Should have been CM, CD and RD. At least there there is some structure to the picks and its not all about who can click the button the fastest. You can't stop people doing crazy things but you can at least stop absurd team combinations being freely acquired. There's this magic button that allows you to not queue for AP... Try it out, it might make your life better!
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I'd actually really like to see a mode similar to LoLs ranked queues introduced. You get to ban and pick heroes in a set order, but rather than having one guy pick for the whole team, everyone gets to pick their own.n_n
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Yep, it should be #1 MMR bans but people pick their own hero and then you can swap afterwards if you want.
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On December 10 2013 00:09 Bumblebee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2013 23:52 -Celestial- wrote: Ranked AP is just hillarious as a concept. Its going to be a race to see which team can pick the overpowered, flavour of the month, in-meta heroes the fastest. Except for that one guy who insists on going carry Crystal Maiden because "rofl is just a game" and proceeds to feed with boots first no regen.
I predict much, much rage over lost ranking. Should have been CM, CD and RD. At least there there is some structure to the picks and its not all about who can click the button the fastest. You can't stop people doing crazy things but you can at least stop absurd team combinations being freely acquired. There's this magic button that allows you to not queue for AP... Try it out, it might make your life better!
I haven't queued for AP in about nine months now. A long, long time either way, I just queue everything else instead (well, limited heroes aside). I just find it funny that its going to be one of the ranked modes when every AP game I ever played was either people desparately trying to counterpick or spamming out the FOTM heroes as fast as possible.
Then everyone flaming the guy who takes "that one hero" that's just viewed as OP. Heh.
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Well, FOTM is still better than random zeus into hard lane feed.
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On December 09 2013 23:52 -Celestial- wrote: Ranked AP is just hillarious as a concept. Its going to be a race to see which team can pick the overpowered, flavour of the month, in-meta heroes the fastest. Except for that one guy who insists on going carry Crystal Maiden because "rofl is just a game" and proceeds to feed with boots first no regen.
I predict much, much rage over lost ranking. Should have been CM, CD and RD. At least there there is some structure to the picks and its not all about who can click the button the fastest. You can't stop people doing crazy things but you can at least stop absurd team combinations being freely acquired.
First of all, carry maiden is doable! i go attackspeed build with tha mjolnir baby! Midas first ofcourse and a shadowblade is handy too! HoT to transition into late! who needs wardz anyway man.
2nd, i like the idea of MMR in all random. U get a support, u try ur best at playing as a support and get points for it. If everyone gets the same %support picks, this seems legit.
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TL needs a way to filter (out) posts by certain people.
TL+ feature would be fine.
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still up for mithril only dota2 forum :_D
just hoping the update comes soon -_-
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It's going to be hilarious when people realize that ranked AP is going to be damn near identical to 'high' mmr AP right now. You're going to have assholes, tryhards, FOTM pickers, OP hero pickers, whiners, babies, throwers, complainers, trolls, randomers etc.
I hate to burst everyone's panic bubble, but It's going to matter very, very little.
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Wat who plays ap lol.
Also last I checked (like 2 months ago) 50% of AP players still just random.
Incoming MMR flames.
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On December 10 2013 02:00 Sn0_Man wrote: Wat who plays ap lol.
Also last I checked (like 2 months ago) 50% of AP players still just random.
Incoming MMR flames.
Well some people do, I don't know why either but still people queue it. I mean I got a couple of friends who only queue AP and maybe LH or RD. I tend to insist we only queue for RD when we queue together; really don't like AP.
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On December 09 2013 23:54 Klonere wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2013 22:30 idonthinksobro wrote: the high mmr differance games are already a problem today, if you queue with players that are worse than you are you will have really easy games if you pick something with a lot of solo-kill potential or a carry that isn't completly helpless early.
A lot of streamers do subscriber games (subs are usually way worse than the streamer), if you watch a game of them playing with subs it is usually that the streamer has to hardcarry the team or lose.
i very much doubt people will intentionally queue with those worse than them in what will become the tryhard ranked mode
1.) there will be unintentional ways to boost your MMR 2.) players will abuse the system to have a higher looking number next to their name 3.) there are players already stacking with worse players to have a lot of easy games where they can do whatever and win (hint: some have streams)
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rd is godawful for pubs. it forces ppl to tryhard and you dont get shit for randoming.
ap is what most people play because it takes the least time to get started and the tryhards can tryhard and the randomers can random. if you are afraid to play against heroes pickers you probably arent very skilled.
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On December 10 2013 02:43 aintz wrote: rd is godawful for pubs. it forces ppl to tryhard and you dont get shit for randoming.
ap is what most people play because it takes the least time to get started and the tryhards can tryhard and the randomers can random. if you are afraid to play against heroes pickers you probably arent very skilled.
there is literally no correlation between skill and the desire for good games.
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Honestly, I think random gold should be disabled in ranked matchmaking.
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On December 10 2013 02:55 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 02:43 aintz wrote: rd is godawful for pubs. it forces ppl to tryhard and you dont get shit for randoming.
ap is what most people play because it takes the least time to get started and the tryhards can tryhard and the randomers can random. if you are afraid to play against heroes pickers you probably arent very skilled. there is literally no correlation between skill and the desire for good games.
what makes good games? oh right players not heroes.
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On December 10 2013 02:55 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 02:43 aintz wrote: rd is godawful for pubs. it forces ppl to tryhard and you dont get shit for randoming.
ap is what most people play because it takes the least time to get started and the tryhards can tryhard and the randomers can random. if you are afraid to play against heroes pickers you probably arent very skilled. there is literally no correlation between skill and the desire for good games.
Define "a good game" is a hell of a task
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