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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
January 17 2014 18:49 GMT
#2161
On January 18 2014 03:26 Plansix wrote:
I live in the trench and understand it. I am one with it and I call tell you it is not 4700.


The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 17 2014 18:54 GMT
#2162
if you aren't 5.5k or higher, you're in the trench, you can be at the bottom or the top, but you're still trench.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 17 2014 18:58 GMT
#2163
Trenches need a beginning to have an end. Where is the start of the trench? How low do I need to go to get out?
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Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 19:04:07
January 17 2014 19:03 GMT
#2164
On January 18 2014 03:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 03:31 SkelA wrote:
Why are ppl playing AP in ranked in the first place? I think I've gotten like 2-3 AP games in ranked with CM,CD,AP modes picked.

Because playing the drafting modes with 4 randoms has very little real meaning.


I agree. Also, at sub 5kish mmr people really dont know how to draft well for the most part. Its just poorly thought out theory craft, pseudo-strategy and counters which result in the same heroes being drafted each game. And to top it off, it takes 10 years for all of that to take place before the game even starts.
Living the liefe
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
January 17 2014 19:10 GMT
#2165
On January 18 2014 03:54 crms wrote:
if you aren't 5.5k or higher, you're in the trench, you can be at the bottom or the top, but you're still trench.

I'm 5.5k and still bad so have to make that bar even higher. 5.6k+
리노크 👑
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
January 17 2014 19:15 GMT
#2166
On January 18 2014 04:10 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 03:54 crms wrote:
if you aren't 5.5k or higher, you're in the trench, you can be at the bottom or the top, but you're still trench.

I'm 5.5k and still bad so have to make that bar even higher. 5.6k+

recently played in a game where the lowest ranked player had 6k rating and it was horrible, trench confirmed to go to atleast 7k
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 17 2014 19:18 GMT
#2167
The trench is the alpha and the omega. Those that have escaped have only grown out of touch with its nature. It will pull them back, down to a land without wards or understanding of how smoke ganks work.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 17 2014 19:20 GMT
#2168
On January 18 2014 04:10 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 03:54 crms wrote:
if you aren't 5.5k or higher, you're in the trench, you can be at the bottom or the top, but you're still trench.

I'm 5.5k and still bad so have to make that bar even higher. 5.6k+


5.5k is a good baseline, basically you've escaped the trench and you're learning how to walk on flat ground. 5.5k doesn't mean you're amazing or pro, you're just talking your first steps having recently escaped the trench. :D
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 17 2014 19:23 GMT
#2169
Better than Jeyo = taking your first steps

yeah, that sounds about right
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Romitelli
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
January 17 2014 19:25 GMT
#2170
I consider the end of trench when everyone has a decent idea of what their role is and how to play it.

They don't need to pick the perfect counter or fit into our current lineup. They don't need to completely outlane their opponents. They don't need to only play the imba or try-hard heroes.

In my opinion, if, at the start of the game, you rarely ponder "how the hell are we gonna lane this?", then you're already playing decent pub dota, and are out of the trenches.

You're nowhere near competitive level, and probably will never be, but I consider people that call sub 5k trenches to be "MMR hipsters".
Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead.
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
January 17 2014 20:04 GMT
#2171
On January 18 2014 04:25 Romitelli wrote:
I consider the end of trench when everyone has a decent idea of what their role is and how to play it.

Trench until 7k confirmed.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
January 17 2014 20:58 GMT
#2172
Just played my first game of earth spirit after hearing about how op and easy to play he is. I did terribly.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
January 17 2014 21:16 GMT
#2173
Trench has no end...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 17 2014 21:21 GMT
#2174
One cannot struggle to escape the trench, you will only fall deeper. One must understand the trench and accept it. It is where you are and you cannot leave. It is where you belong, your home. One much become one with the trench and only then can one rise above it.

You are the trench.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
January 17 2014 21:48 GMT
#2175
You merely adopted the trench. I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see a ward until I was already a man.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13076 Posts
January 17 2014 23:11 GMT
#2176
Went +400 mmr in the last 2 weeks. Doing great with a winning ratio of around 70% , need few more games to break 4k and leave the this sub 4k elo hell .

I knew it in my heart I wasnt that terrible! Volvo calibration doesnt work, its my fault that i wasnt tryhard enough preranked
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Anesthetic
Profile Joined April 2012
United States225 Posts
January 18 2014 00:06 GMT
#2177
On January 18 2014 08:11 SkelA wrote:
Went +400 mmr in the last 2 weeks. Doing great with a winning ratio of around 70% , need few more games to break 4k and leave the this sub 4k elo hell .

I knew it in my heart I wasnt that terrible! Volvo calibration doesnt work, its my fault that i wasnt tryhard enough preranked


Personally I still find absolute terribad groups in 4k rating, We always seem to get people that afk/abandon every other game as well as teams that just consistently feed.
Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
January 18 2014 09:00 GMT
#2178
If you start out at the lower rankings in the solo queue it just feels so random, especially when you like to play supporting heroes. The outcome on the game depends on the others especially on the carries for the most part. I mean you can run around and ward and deward and do your stuff, but then you have groups who dont take advantage of it and die horribly and then you have groups who initate ganks or escape ganks just because of the wards and stuff.
Solo MMR makes you feel trapped in that trench when you start out fresh and low especially when it is your team mates on whom your survival really depends in this kind of warfare
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
January 18 2014 11:33 GMT
#2179
you guys complaining about elo hell should tune into singsings stream. 6k mmr and his supports dont even know what to do against a solo bounty hunter....they just take sings xp instead of ganking,pulling or stacking.
FTD
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
January 18 2014 11:59 GMT
#2180
On January 18 2014 20:33 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
you guys complaining about elo hell should tune into singsings stream. 6k mmr and his supports dont even know what to do against a solo bounty hunter....they just take sings xp instead of ganking,pulling or stacking.


One of those was Beesa right? "looking for gf 6K MMR" either him or a fanboy.

Well you can tell him how to play vs solo bounty when he visits this thread later then ^^
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