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Did u ever mention ur mmr Plansix?
Everybody's definition of "below wood league" varies 
Even at 4200 though I feel like my ranking means little enough that I *should* play unranked. However, I seem to get a lot longer queue times that way so I've stuck with ranked recently. Maybe thats just variance though.
On January 16 2014 01:39 Ventil wrote:
I've managed to loose 6 ranked placement matches today. Also managed to get an abandon due to ISP deciding to troll me.
Needless to say, today was a "meh" day...
Dis aint a qq thread tho.
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Hitting walls are going to happen a lot of times in Dota. I am stuck as well right now. I am not good enough to climb further so I hover around +/- 200 rating, just play and enjoy the game rather than focus too much on rating. I'm just enjoying Dota so I play a lot. Then improvement comes naturally by playing.
If you want to improve faster then you have to have to find a team and practice with them. And try to improve from mistakes made with the team. That goes 5-10x faster than trying to improve from pubs. Then go back to ranked after a few hundred games and it will be noticeably easier, no matter what role you played. Improvement doesn't come over night.
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My MMR is 2600 currently. I lost about 200 in an amazing set of losses. I don't play enough, which is part of my problem. I lack the mechanics to back up my knowledge about the game. But I have no where to go but up, so there is that.
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Other options include "be RTZ/Kwark and pick imba 1v5 champ erry game".
Free mmr except if ur already 6K then u only gain like 5 per win. Actual skill improvement not included.
On January 16 2014 01:45 Plansix wrote:
My MMR is 2600 currently. I lost about 200 in an amazing set of losses. I don't play enough, which is part of my problem. I lack the mechanics to back up my knowledge about the game. But I have no where to go but up, so there is that.
Mechanics are a bitch. I still can't reliably click on heroes in teamfights LOL. Insufficient SC background or something.
God forbid I have to play visage/tinker etc.
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I've been getting better games somehow. Mids actually know how to draw creep aggro so they can get easier last hits now.
Also BoT rush on Invoker has been winning me lotsa games.
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Yeah, my main problem lately had that I don't play consistently enough to improve on any real value. It just leads to sloppy mistakes. I might try get into a schedule and try to play more during the week to get more consistent. That and I need to broaden my hero pool a bit. Hell, maybe I'll stream it for comedy value.
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On January 16 2014 00:48 Laurens wrote:
It's based on winrate, can you call Earth Spirit a pub stomper if he only wins in 45% of games?
Vast majority of players are very bad at this game, so the win statistics don't say much unless you want to know which heroes are good/bad in trash tier games. I wonder what ES winrate in 5k+ mmr is.
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its very very very very very very very high
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Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
On January 16 2014 01:46 Sn0_Man wrote:Other options include "be RTZ/Kwark and pick imba 1v5 champ erry game". Free mmr except if ur already 6K then u only gain like 5 per win. Actual skill improvement not included. Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 01:45 Plansix wrote:
My MMR is 2600 currently. I lost about 200 in an amazing set of losses. I don't play enough, which is part of my problem. I lack the mechanics to back up my knowledge about the game. But I have no where to go but up, so there is that. Mechanics are a bitch. I still can't reliably click on heroes in teamfights LOL. Insufficient SC background or something. God forbid I have to play visage/tinker etc.
"Maining" a hero in Dota 2 is a really bad idea. It's easy to gain upwards of 500-1000+ MMR this way, especially if you pick a strong mid hero, and then realize you can't play anything else close to that level. However, for someone who's below 3k MMR, I guess it's a decent option to get out of the depths of trench tier and start playing decent-ish pubs.
When I was around 2.8-3k MMR, I was obsessed with middle lane, because I felt it was the only way I could make an impact on the game from the start. Nowadays, it's so easy to "carry" the early-mid game with a strong support that it ain't even funny.
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On January 16 2014 04:49 Romitelli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 01:46 Sn0_Man wrote:Other options include "be RTZ/Kwark and pick imba 1v5 champ erry game". Free mmr except if ur already 6K then u only gain like 5 per win. Actual skill improvement not included. On January 16 2014 01:45 Plansix wrote:
My MMR is 2600 currently. I lost about 200 in an amazing set of losses. I don't play enough, which is part of my problem. I lack the mechanics to back up my knowledge about the game. But I have no where to go but up, so there is that. Mechanics are a bitch. I still can't reliably click on heroes in teamfights LOL. Insufficient SC background or something. God forbid I have to play visage/tinker etc. "Maining" a hero in Dota 2 is a really bad idea. It's easy to gain upwards of 500-1000+ MMR this way, especially if you pick a strong mid hero, and then realize you can't play anything else close to that level. However, for someone who's below 3k MMR, I guess it's a decent option to get out of the depths of trench tier and start playing decent-ish pubs.
I strongly disagree. Focusing on one or a few heroes will allow you to ignore all these strongly hero dependent choices, like how to skill, what to buy and to to pull of your combos because you've made them so many times before and already know what to do. Instead you will be free to focus on deeper issues like how you move around the map, avoiding ganks and communicating with your team mates. All which transfer very well to other heroes.
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The trench is a tough place to live. I normally try to play a strong support. CM and earth shaker are my go to heroes if I have no idea what we need. My second position is off lane with either timber saw or bounty hunter. I try to broaden my hero pool, but that leads to some tragic losses.
Bit people need to accept that losing is part of learning. No pro got as good as they are without losing a fuck ton of games.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
Guys... just play whatever you enjoy playing. Jesus christ, is it so hard to understand that concept? If you like playing shadowfiend, just play shadowfiend all day long, if you like to play different stuff then random every game.
It's a fucking video game, not your job. You should be having fun with it in the first place.
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On January 16 2014 05:54 cecek wrote:
Guys... just play whatever you enjoy playing. Jesus christ, is it so hard to understand that concept? If you like playing shadowfiend, just play shadowfiend all day long, if you like to play different stuff then random every game.
It's a fucking video game, not your job. You should be having fun with it in the first place.
Agree. Before ranked MMR is had a winrate of ~50%; in ranked I now have a winrate of ~50%. I have nice games and ugly games. At least in the lower MMR not much has changed really.
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Nah guys, let this discussion go on forever. It will, anyway.
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On January 16 2014 01:45 Plansix wrote:
My MMR is 2600 currently. I lost about 200 in an amazing set of losses. I don't play enough, which is part of my problem. I lack the mechanics to back up my knowledge about the game. But I have no where to go but up, so there is that.
I'm at exactly the same level. I know what my problem is though: I play like 5 heroes, and I fucking cannot play a melee hero ever. I literally just don't know how to play melee. Every time a melee hero kills me in a game I'm like "how the fuck did he even do that". When I try, I just chase a dude halfway across the map to either lose him or die. And don't even get me started on trying to lane as a melee. I might as well just run out and feed 3 kills in the first minute and get it over with.
Sigh.
Edit: ~500 games and I've played like 10 as melee (Timber and Ursa I think?). I'm a disgrace lol.
EditEdit: I have managed to rack up about 90 games with Drow though? HUEHUEHUE
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Germany5966 Posts
I just tried unranked again, and wow, every single game was pretty much a stomp, only if the better team got careless it was little closer. But none was fun. Going back to ranked now.
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On January 16 2014 07:20 Ayaz2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 01:45 Plansix wrote:
My MMR is 2600 currently. I lost about 200 in an amazing set of losses. I don't play enough, which is part of my problem. I lack the mechanics to back up my knowledge about the game. But I have no where to go but up, so there is that. I'm at exactly the same level. I know what my problem is though: I play like 5 heroes, and I fucking cannot play a melee hero ever. I literally just don't know how to play melee. Every time a melee hero kills me in a game I'm like "how the fuck did he even do that". When I try, I just chase a dude halfway across the map to either lose him or die. And don't even get me started on trying to lane as a melee. I might as well just run out and feed 3 kills in the first minute and get it over with. Sigh. Edit: ~500 games and I've played like 10 as melee (Timber and Ursa I think?). I'm a disgrace lol. EditEdit: I have managed to rack up about 90 games with Drow though? HUEHUEHUE
laning as melee: a brief guide
1. get a stout shield
2. do the aggro trick
3. last hit
4. repeat 2 and 3
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What is this "aggro trick" you speak of?
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On January 16 2014 05:31 ZerG~LegenD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 04:49 Romitelli wrote:On January 16 2014 01:46 Sn0_Man wrote:Other options include "be RTZ/Kwark and pick imba 1v5 champ erry game". Free mmr except if ur already 6K then u only gain like 5 per win. Actual skill improvement not included. On January 16 2014 01:45 Plansix wrote:
My MMR is 2600 currently. I lost about 200 in an amazing set of losses. I don't play enough, which is part of my problem. I lack the mechanics to back up my knowledge about the game. But I have no where to go but up, so there is that. Mechanics are a bitch. I still can't reliably click on heroes in teamfights LOL. Insufficient SC background or something. God forbid I have to play visage/tinker etc. "Maining" a hero in Dota 2 is a really bad idea. It's easy to gain upwards of 500-1000+ MMR this way, especially if you pick a strong mid hero, and then realize you can't play anything else close to that level. However, for someone who's below 3k MMR, I guess it's a decent option to get out of the depths of trench tier and start playing decent-ish pubs. I strongly disagree. Focusing on one or a few heroes will allow you to ignore all these strongly hero dependent choices, like how to skill, what to buy and to to pull of your combos because you've made them so many times before and already know what to do. Instead you will be free to focus on deeper issues like how you move around the map, avoiding ganks and communicating with your team mates. All which transfer very well to other heroes.
I gotta concur with Zerg on this one. "Maining" a few heroes as long as you have 1-2 in each category is a great idea because it lets you focus on getting used to the mechanics and feel of only 5-6 heroes. When you start looking at the heroes as a whole, you will start noticing a lot of them are similar in how they are played and then you can transfer what you learned playing 1 hero to another. Most supports you will feel a very similar rhythm to the game as long as your carries/mid/offlaner aren't some n00b pub retards as well most all carries. The only role that has heroes that feel very different from one another is the mid position. Some of these snowballers feel like pure gankers, some like semi-carries and others like long-ranged casting supports. Its probably the most versatile position you will ever have to play.
Unless you have some kind of mental or learning disability, everything you learn from 1-2 heroes of every type (support, carry, etc) can be transferred to just about every other hero who fits in that number slot for team role extremely easily. I learned a few heroes and ended up being really good with everybody in just this manner and so have a great many pros.
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Right click on enemy hero to draw creeps closer to you.
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