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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 03 2014 21:11 GMT
#3361
On March 04 2014 06:00 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 05:57 r.Evo wrote:
US claims that all Russian claims are baseless and illusionary and calls a call of help by Crimea as illegal because only Ukraine itself can call for foreign troops.

US calls solution as immediate pullback of Russian troops and neutral observers. OSCE observers will be deployed tonight. Calls the current government legitimate. Calls the agreement of 21st void (?) because Yanukovych left the country. Basically calls Russia delusional.

agreement of 21th February between all kinds of parties.

I wasn't sure if she actually called it void (which would mean the US are calling it alright that paramilitary groups are still armed if I understand things correctly).
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 03 2014 21:12 GMT
#3362
Didn't the Russians call this meeting of the UNSC?

What's their play here? Read the letter and use it as a pretext to execute even more of a landgrab?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 03 2014 21:13 GMT
#3363
On March 04 2014 06:12 Derez wrote:
Didn't the Russians call this meeting of the UNSC?

What's their play here? Read the letter and use it as a pretext to execute even more of a landgrab?

They did, not sure what's going on here yet.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
March 03 2014 21:13 GMT
#3364
On March 04 2014 06:12 Derez wrote:
Didn't the Russians call this meeting of the UNSC?

What's their play here? Read the letter and use it as a pretext to execute even more of a landgrab?


That's the only thing I can think of, the letter in his hand seemed really important to him, and seemed to him to justify any movement in any part of Ukraine.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 21:15:24
March 03 2014 21:13 GMT
#3365
Lithuania basically said the same as the UK, just a bit nicer.

e: I won't specifically talk about Rwanda onwards unless something actually new comes up.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 03 2014 21:13 GMT
#3366

Atis Lejins, a member of the Latvian parliament’s foreign-affairs committee, said increasing the number of NATO aircraft patrolling Baltic airspace could be one way to beef up NATO’s presence.

Currently a small, rotating contingent of fighter aircraft from NATO countries operates from a base in Lithuania. Mr. Lejins, a former U.S. Marine, said one example of a heightened presence was the U.S. Air Force Aviation Detachment (AV Det) program in Poland, which rotates fighter and transport units to bases in Poland.

Critics of an increased NATO presence say that costs to both Latvia and NATO could be a hurdle to expanding air patrols. Increased air patrols would upgrade the NATO presence in all three countries because aircraft cover the airspace of all three Baltic countries.

Mr. Kalnins spoke after a joint meeting of the Saeima’ s Foreign Affairs and European Affairs committees that condemned Russia’s incursion into Crimea and called for European Union and Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) observers to be sent to the Ukraine.

He spoke on Monday at the same time as the Lithuanian Parliament’s Foreign Affairs and National Security and Defence Committee passed a resolution condemning Russia’s military aggression against Ukraine and the occupation of the territory of Ukraine. The Lithuanian resolution also called on the North Atlantic Council to temporarily redeploy NATO military forces to its “eastern part, including the Baltic states.”
Saumure
Profile Joined February 2012
France404 Posts
March 03 2014 21:14 GMT
#3367
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 03 2014 21:15 GMT
#3368
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?

Rotating members of the security council. Count yourself lucky its not belarus and kazachstan.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 03 2014 21:15 GMT
#3369
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?


i was thinking the same
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 03 2014 21:15 GMT
#3370
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?

http://www.un.org/en/sc/members/
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 03 2014 21:16 GMT
#3371
On March 04 2014 06:15 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?


i was thinking the same

And you're both fellow Frenchmen, big surprise
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Saumure
Profile Joined February 2012
France404 Posts
March 03 2014 21:16 GMT
#3372
On March 04 2014 06:15 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?

Rotating members of the security council. Count yourself lucky its not belarus and kazachstan.

They could be bought anyway... I mean they are not big enough countries not to be infuenced ...
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
March 03 2014 21:17 GMT
#3373
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?

I actually liked their statements....
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 03 2014 21:17 GMT
#3374
On March 04 2014 06:15 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?

Rotating members of the security council. Count yourself lucky its not belarus and kazachstan.

lol.

Lithuania / Chile / Chad / Jordan / Nigeria are the current rotating members according to wiki.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
March 03 2014 21:17 GMT
#3375
Lithuania is actually pretty convenient, with Russia troops massing on their borders and their invoking of article four of the Nato treaty.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
March 03 2014 21:17 GMT
#3376
Has China spoken yet?
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 03 2014 21:18 GMT
#3377
On March 04 2014 06:17 Thorakh wrote:
Has China spoken yet?


nop, i hope they will
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10163 Posts
March 03 2014 21:18 GMT
#3378
On March 04 2014 06:17 Thorakh wrote:
Has China spoken yet?

Nope.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 03 2014 21:19 GMT
#3379
On March 04 2014 06:13 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +

Atis Lejins, a member of the Latvian parliament’s foreign-affairs committee, said increasing the number of NATO aircraft patrolling Baltic airspace could be one way to beef up NATO’s presence.

Currently a small, rotating contingent of fighter aircraft from NATO countries operates from a base in Lithuania. Mr. Lejins, a former U.S. Marine, said one example of a heightened presence was the U.S. Air Force Aviation Detachment (AV Det) program in Poland, which rotates fighter and transport units to bases in Poland.

Critics of an increased NATO presence say that costs to both Latvia and NATO could be a hurdle to expanding air patrols. Increased air patrols would upgrade the NATO presence in all three countries because aircraft cover the airspace of all three Baltic countries.

Mr. Kalnins spoke after a joint meeting of the Saeima’ s Foreign Affairs and European Affairs committees that condemned Russia’s incursion into Crimea and called for European Union and Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) observers to be sent to the Ukraine.

He spoke on Monday at the same time as the Lithuanian Parliament’s Foreign Affairs and National Security and Defence Committee passed a resolution condemning Russia’s military aggression against Ukraine and the occupation of the territory of Ukraine. The Lithuanian resolution also called on the North Atlantic Council to temporarily redeploy NATO military forces to its “eastern part, including the Baltic states.”

I'd send a few squadrons of F22s over there as a gigantic middle finger to Russia and threaten to impose a no-fly zone if Russia starts shooting Ukranians.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 03 2014 21:19 GMT
#3380
On March 04 2014 06:17 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:15 Derez wrote:
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?

Rotating members of the security council. Count yourself lucky its not belarus and kazachstan.

lol.

Lithuania / Chile / Chad / Jordan / Nigeria are the current rotating members according to wiki.

You're missing half :p. 5 permanent members, 10 rotating.
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