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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 21:25:18
March 03 2014 21:25 GMT
#3401
i think that china is the good cop and russia the bad cop there between the two of them
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 03 2014 21:25 GMT
#3402
On March 04 2014 06:23 Ghanburighan wrote:
China condemns extreme violent acts in Ukraine.

China calls for non-interference, respect of territorial integrity.

There are reasons why events have progressed the way they have.

China calls for a political solution.

[Bloody enigma to interpret.]

Since non-interference is what China is about in a nutshell in basically anything that involves the UN I'd say their position is rather clear.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
March 03 2014 21:25 GMT
#3403
Basically what China said was "Keep us out this mess, we don't care".
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 03 2014 21:26 GMT
#3404
China is very much torn, it doesn't want to encourage revolutionaries, but it dislikes breaches of territorial integrity even more.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
March 03 2014 21:26 GMT
#3405
Did anyone notice: Australia ambassador wearing the same clothing as the british one. COINCIDENCE??? =D

Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 03 2014 21:26 GMT
#3406
On March 04 2014 06:25 Makro wrote:
i think that china is the good cop and russia the bad cop there between the two of them

China has difficulties supporting self-determination because they haven't shipped in enough Han chinese into certain areas of their country yet.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
March 03 2014 21:27 GMT
#3407
On March 04 2014 06:23 Ghanburighan wrote:
China condemns extreme violent acts in Ukraine.

China calls for non-interference, respect of territorial integrity.

There are reasons why events have progressed the way they have.

China calls for a political solution.

[Bloody enigma to interpret.]

It's nice to be a Chinese foreign representative. You only need a few phrases to learn.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 03 2014 21:27 GMT
#3408
On March 04 2014 06:26 Eisregen wrote:
Did anyone notice: Australia ambassador wearing the same clothing as the british one. COINCIDENCE??? =D



it's all a part of the plan
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 03 2014 21:27 GMT
#3409
On March 04 2014 06:26 Ghanburighan wrote:
China is very much torn, it doesn't want to encourage revolutionaries, but it dislikes breaches of territorial integrity even more.

That, and China wants to know whether it can get away with invading little islands in the Pacific.
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
March 03 2014 21:27 GMT
#3410
Sending one or two extra carriers into the Mediterranean seems like it would send a small message.

Or too much?
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 21:27:55
March 03 2014 21:27 GMT
#3411
China isn't there because the stock-market dropped by 0,5% this morning and as a consequence the representative had a heart attack.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10137 Posts
March 03 2014 21:28 GMT
#3412
On March 04 2014 06:27 Nyxisto wrote:
China isn't there because the stock-market dropped by 0,5% this morning and as a consequence the representative had a heart attack.

China already spoke out.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 03 2014 21:29 GMT
#3413
On March 04 2014 06:26 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:25 Makro wrote:
i think that china is the good cop and russia the bad cop there between the two of them

China has difficulties supporting self-determination because they haven't shipped in enough Han chinese into certain areas of their country yet.

It's fine, they've got Russia stirring up shizzle elsewhere to make sure they're covered a bit longer. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
March 03 2014 21:31 GMT
#3414
One thing i don't understand though, every member now afaik pointed at the budapest memorandum, and to russia to uphold it. Which obviously is reasonable and all that, but doesn't the UK and US break that treaty as well?

Honest question, since i'm not sure.
On track to MA1950A.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 03 2014 21:32 GMT
#3415
On March 04 2014 06:31 m4ini wrote:
One thing i don't understand though, every member now afaik pointed at the budapest memorandum, and to russia to uphold it. Which obviously is reasonable and all that, but doesn't the UK and US break that treaty as well?

Honest question, since i'm not sure.

Why would they be breaking it? They haven't deployed forces there.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 21:34:06
March 03 2014 21:33 GMT
#3416
On March 04 2014 06:31 m4ini wrote:
One thing i don't understand though, every member now afaik pointed at the budapest memorandum, and to russia to uphold it. Which obviously is reasonable and all that, but doesn't the UK and US break that treaty as well?

Honest question, since i'm not sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

It's about respecting their borders not guaranteeing them if I understand things correctly. Russia is the only side violating those terms.

e: You assumed they're breaking it because they're not doing anything against sovereignty being breached, right?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
March 03 2014 21:35 GMT
#3417
On March 04 2014 06:33 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:31 m4ini wrote:
One thing i don't understand though, every member now afaik pointed at the budapest memorandum, and to russia to uphold it. Which obviously is reasonable and all that, but doesn't the UK and US break that treaty as well?

Honest question, since i'm not sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

It's about respecting their borders not guaranteeing them if I understand things correctly. Russia is the only side violating those terms.

e: You assumed they're breaking it because they're not doing anything against sovereignty being breached, right?


Yeah, didn't read close enough. Mea culpa.
On track to MA1950A.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 03 2014 21:35 GMT
#3418
I had already forgotten how boring multilateral meetings actually were... Good thing there's no Cuba.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 03 2014 21:36 GMT
#3419
On March 04 2014 06:35 Ghanburighan wrote:
I had already forgotten how boring multilateral meetings actually were... Good thing there's no Cuba.

It always stroke me as slightly awkward that they're basically going in a circle issuing statements... which aren't exactly responding to each other.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
March 03 2014 21:37 GMT
#3420
On March 04 2014 06:36 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:35 Ghanburighan wrote:
I had already forgotten how boring multilateral meetings actually were... Good thing there's no Cuba.

It always stroke me as slightly awkward that they're basically going in a circle issuing statements... which aren't exactly responding to each other.

No Gadafi, no fun.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
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