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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 03 2014 21:19 GMT
#3381
Wait a second. Why exactly is China not speaking at this or the last UNSC meeting?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 03 2014 21:20 GMT
#3382
On March 04 2014 06:19 r.Evo wrote:
Wait a second. Why exactly is China not speaking at this or the last UNSC meeting?


maybe a chinese confucianism diplomacy
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 03 2014 21:21 GMT
#3383
On March 04 2014 06:19 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:17 r.Evo wrote:
On March 04 2014 06:15 Derez wrote:
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?

Rotating members of the security council. Count yourself lucky its not belarus and kazachstan.

lol.

Lithuania / Chile / Chad / Jordan / Nigeria are the current rotating members according to wiki.

You're missing half :p. 5 permanent members, 10 rotating.

I'm bad. Argentina / Australia / Rwanda / Luxembourg / Republic of Korea are the other 5.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 03 2014 21:21 GMT
#3384
On March 04 2014 06:19 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:13 Sub40APM wrote:

Atis Lejins, a member of the Latvian parliament’s foreign-affairs committee, said increasing the number of NATO aircraft patrolling Baltic airspace could be one way to beef up NATO’s presence.

Currently a small, rotating contingent of fighter aircraft from NATO countries operates from a base in Lithuania. Mr. Lejins, a former U.S. Marine, said one example of a heightened presence was the U.S. Air Force Aviation Detachment (AV Det) program in Poland, which rotates fighter and transport units to bases in Poland.

Critics of an increased NATO presence say that costs to both Latvia and NATO could be a hurdle to expanding air patrols. Increased air patrols would upgrade the NATO presence in all three countries because aircraft cover the airspace of all three Baltic countries.

Mr. Kalnins spoke after a joint meeting of the Saeima’ s Foreign Affairs and European Affairs committees that condemned Russia’s incursion into Crimea and called for European Union and Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) observers to be sent to the Ukraine.

He spoke on Monday at the same time as the Lithuanian Parliament’s Foreign Affairs and National Security and Defence Committee passed a resolution condemning Russia’s military aggression against Ukraine and the occupation of the territory of Ukraine. The Lithuanian resolution also called on the North Atlantic Council to temporarily redeploy NATO military forces to its “eastern part, including the Baltic states.”

I'd send a few squadrons of F22s over there as a gigantic middle finger to Russia and threaten to impose a no-fly zone if Russia starts shooting Ukranians.

the bigger middle finger would be to pressure the UK to close the City and London to the Russian elite. Putin doesnt care about sending his soldiers to their deaths, but his precious money? Thats a whole other matter.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 03 2014 21:21 GMT
#3385
On March 04 2014 06:19 r.Evo wrote:
Wait a second. Why exactly is China not speaking at this or the last UNSC meeting?

They can choose to not make a statement. In this case they wouldn't because they don't want to condemn Russia nor come out in favour of the west.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 03 2014 21:22 GMT
#3386
On March 04 2014 06:19 r.Evo wrote:
Wait a second. Why exactly is China not speaking at this or the last UNSC meeting?

Because their stated foreign policy is to oppose intervention in sovereign states but if Putin wants to distract the West, give them legal justification for annexations of territories where 'Chinese race might be threatened', why not let the Russians do that?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 03 2014 21:22 GMT
#3387
There we go. :3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
March 03 2014 21:22 GMT
#3388
There's China.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
March 03 2014 21:22 GMT
#3389
On March 04 2014 06:17 Eisregen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:14 Saumure wrote:
I don't mean to sound arrogant or something, but why are Lithuania and Rwanda allowed to speak?

I actually liked their statements....

Agree, Rwanda ambassador especially imo.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#3390
China condemns extreme violent acts in Ukraine.

China calls for non-interference, respect of territorial integrity.

There are reasons why events have progressed the way they have.

China calls for a political solution.

[Bloody enigma to interpret.]
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
March 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#3391
On March 04 2014 06:11 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:00 Cheerio wrote:
On March 04 2014 05:57 r.Evo wrote:
US claims that all Russian claims are baseless and illusionary and calls a call of help by Crimea as illegal because only Ukraine itself can call for foreign troops.

US calls solution as immediate pullback of Russian troops and neutral observers. OSCE observers will be deployed tonight. Calls the current government legitimate. Calls the agreement of 21st void (?) because Yanukovych left the country. Basically calls Russia delusional.

agreement of 21th February between all kinds of parties.

I wasn't sure if she actually called it void (which would mean the US are calling it alright that paramilitary groups are still armed if I understand things correctly).

Yanukovich ran off before the 24 hours given for their disarmament ran up.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
March 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#3392
Sounds pretty reasonable, considering it's china.
On track to MA1950A.
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
March 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#3393
On March 04 2014 06:19 r.Evo wrote:
Wait a second. Why exactly is China not speaking at this or the last UNSC meeting?


The Russian foreign minister pulled the same thing concerning China that they did with Biden earlier today. The claimed that China supported what they were doing which led to the Chinese foreign minister releasing a statement that Russia misrepresented them.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42394 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 21:24:19
March 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#3394
Can't listen. Can someone summarize what China's saying? Thanks!

Thanks, Ghanburighan
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#3395
extremely short
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 03 2014 21:24 GMT
#3396
On March 04 2014 06:21 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:19 xDaunt wrote:
On March 04 2014 06:13 Sub40APM wrote:

Atis Lejins, a member of the Latvian parliament’s foreign-affairs committee, said increasing the number of NATO aircraft patrolling Baltic airspace could be one way to beef up NATO’s presence.

Currently a small, rotating contingent of fighter aircraft from NATO countries operates from a base in Lithuania. Mr. Lejins, a former U.S. Marine, said one example of a heightened presence was the U.S. Air Force Aviation Detachment (AV Det) program in Poland, which rotates fighter and transport units to bases in Poland.

Critics of an increased NATO presence say that costs to both Latvia and NATO could be a hurdle to expanding air patrols. Increased air patrols would upgrade the NATO presence in all three countries because aircraft cover the airspace of all three Baltic countries.

Mr. Kalnins spoke after a joint meeting of the Saeima’ s Foreign Affairs and European Affairs committees that condemned Russia’s incursion into Crimea and called for European Union and Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) observers to be sent to the Ukraine.

He spoke on Monday at the same time as the Lithuanian Parliament’s Foreign Affairs and National Security and Defence Committee passed a resolution condemning Russia’s military aggression against Ukraine and the occupation of the territory of Ukraine. The Lithuanian resolution also called on the North Atlantic Council to temporarily redeploy NATO military forces to its “eastern part, including the Baltic states.”

I'd send a few squadrons of F22s over there as a gigantic middle finger to Russia and threaten to impose a no-fly zone if Russia starts shooting Ukranians.

the bigger middle finger would be to pressure the UK to close the City and London to the Russian elite. Putin doesnt care about sending his soldiers to their deaths, but his precious money? Thats a whole other matter.

I like the idea of doing both. A show of military force is necessary for psychological effect.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
March 03 2014 21:24 GMT
#3397
China basically said nothing.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 03 2014 21:24 GMT
#3398
Not as harsh as others but that's pretty much China taking the same general position as the western nations.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 21:25:08
March 03 2014 21:24 GMT
#3399
Nvm, misunderstood sth
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
March 03 2014 21:24 GMT
#3400
On March 04 2014 06:23 Makro wrote:
extremely short


They didn't show support for russias actions though, that's the important part (for me).
On track to MA1950A.
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