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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 03 2014 20:55 GMT
#3341
On March 04 2014 05:47 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 05:46 Makro wrote:
i don't understand the russian who is speaking on the UN council stream i'm pissed

link, doesnt work for me the one in the twitter.


http://webtv.un.org/ try this if it's not the same u tried before
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 20:56:44
March 03 2014 20:56 GMT
#3342
If she talked a little bit more neutral i would confuse her with the google english pronunciation voice.
On March 04 2014 05:55 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 05:47 Godwrath wrote:
On March 04 2014 05:46 Makro wrote:
i don't understand the russian who is speaking on the UN council stream i'm pissed

link, doesnt work for me the one in the twitter.


http://webtv.un.org/ try this if it's not the same u tried before


Yeah it is working now, seems like it was overloaded.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 20:57:11
March 03 2014 20:56 GMT
#3343
Its so stupid, it really is. Its like the US representitive says: with international observers and protection, including russia, there is no problem and this whole thing can be avoided.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 03 2014 20:57 GMT
#3344
On March 04 2014 05:55 rapistzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 05:49 Sub40APM wrote:
On March 04 2014 05:47 Saumure wrote:
On March 04 2014 05:45 Sub40APM wrote:
On March 04 2014 05:42 SCST wrote:
People should be aware that Russian propagandists are out in force today. Just look at CNN's top comments on recent articles.

Have to wonder if they get paid per post, per post length, or per top comment.

Well you propagate bullshit for free, at least they get paid...

Yes. Anyone who doesnt believe in Putin and hates America instinctively is a bullshiter.

Putin is not the Holy Ghost, you don't have to believe in him. And why do you hate America? Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Leave thread and cool off, young Padawan.

the doesnt in that sentence applies to both Putin's veracity in this crisis and the pro-Russian response that starts as 'Well Americans committed many horrible things in the Middle East so Russian aggression here is justified"
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 03 2014 20:57 GMT
#3345
US claims that all Russian claims are baseless and illusionary and calls a call of help by Crimea as illegal because only Ukraine itself can call for foreign troops.

US calls solution as immediate pullback of Russian troops and neutral observers. OSCE observers will be deployed tonight. Calls the current government legitimate. Calls the agreement of 21st void (?) because Yanukovych left the country. Basically calls Russia delusional.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 03 2014 20:58 GMT
#3346
French ambassador compares Russia's actions to 68.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 21:01:24
March 03 2014 21:00 GMT
#3347
t Vitaly Churkin, the Russian diplomatic representative at the UN, has just shown the other members of the council what he claimed was a letter from Viktor Yanukovich, the ousted president of Ukraine who is now in exile in Russia.

In the letter, the former leader of the troubled country calls on the Russian president Vladimir Putin to use his military to invade parts of Ukraine. Churkin reads:

“As the legitimate elected representative, I say the events in Kiev have resulted in Ukraine being on the brink of civil war. The rights of people in Crimea are being threatened. Under the influence of Western countries, there are open acts of terror. I would call on the president of Russia, Mr Putin, to use the armed forces of the Russian Federation to establish peace and defend the people of Ukraine.”

Samantha Power, the US ambassador to the UN, has just taken the floor with this acerbic riposte: “So many of the assertions made this afternoon are without basis in reality”.


Three days earlier though..http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/28/viktor-yanukovych-russia-ukraine-coup

"As the current president of Ukraine, I want to say that Crimea should stay within the boundaries of Ukraine,"
He said he believed there should be no military activity in Crimea


Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
March 03 2014 21:00 GMT
#3348
On March 04 2014 05:57 r.Evo wrote:
US claims that all Russian claims are baseless and illusionary and calls a call of help by Crimea as illegal because only Ukraine itself can call for foreign troops.

US calls solution as immediate pullback of Russian troops and neutral observers. OSCE observers will be deployed tonight. Calls the current government legitimate. Calls the agreement of 21st void (?) because Yanukovych left the country. Basically calls Russia delusional.

agreement of 21th February between all kinds of parties.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 03 2014 21:03 GMT
#3349
On March 04 2014 06:00 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 05:57 r.Evo wrote:
US claims that all Russian claims are baseless and illusionary and calls a call of help by Crimea as illegal because only Ukraine itself can call for foreign troops.

US calls solution as immediate pullback of Russian troops and neutral observers. OSCE observers will be deployed tonight. Calls the current government legitimate. Calls the agreement of 21st void (?) because Yanukovych left the country. Basically calls Russia delusional.

agreement of 21th February between all kinds of parties.

All parties except...
Russia, which joined France, Germany and Poland in mediating the settlement, introduced a further element of uncertainty by declining to sign the accord

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/22/world/europe/ukraine.html?_r=0
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
March 03 2014 21:03 GMT
#3350
In the meantime the Ukrainian defense minister says there are now 16 thousand Russian troops in the Ukraine, including 5500 spetsnaz that were just deployed.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 03 2014 21:04 GMT
#3351
France goes back to WW2 analogies and claims there is no violence in Kiev or anywhere in Ukraine against anyone. Calls the Ukrainian government legit and suggests 6 simple points to solve the current situation in Ukraine (I missed one):

1) Remove Russian troops
2) Disarm all civilians and paramilitary units
3) Make an effort to protect minorities
5) Constitutional Reforms
6) Presidential elections
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 03 2014 21:05 GMT
#3352
On March 04 2014 06:04 r.Evo wrote:
France goes back to WW2 analogies and claims there is no violence in Kiev or anywhere in Ukraine against anyone. Calls the Ukrainian government legit and suggests 6 simple points to solve the current situation in Ukraine (I missed one):

1) Remove Russian troops
2) Disarm all civilians and paramilitary units
3) Make an effort to protect minorities
5) Constitutional Reforms
6) Presidential elections


the one you missed if i'm not mistaken is to review the law on the russian language in ukraine
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
March 03 2014 21:05 GMT
#3353
UK using some strong language.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 03 2014 21:05 GMT
#3354
It's hilarious that the russian ambassador is even bringing up yanukovich.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 21:09:20
March 03 2014 21:08 GMT
#3355
The Russian representative is clearly not well prepared, he needs more youtube footage to prove his point. And I'm surprised by the French reaction, hitting a really harsh tone at this diplomatic level.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
March 03 2014 21:09 GMT
#3356
On March 04 2014 06:08 Nyxisto wrote:
The Russian representative is clearly not well prepared, he needs more youtube footage to prove his point.


Do they even care ? they know literally nothing will change and nothing will happen after this conference, russia will keep pressuring ukraine and thats that. He could start reading child stories there, doubt they would care.
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
March 03 2014 21:09 GMT
#3357
Russias justifications have just been called bogus or trumped up 4 times by Great Britain. Ouch. Rest seems like more or less the french and US speeches.
Repeat before me
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 03 2014 21:10 GMT
#3358
On March 04 2014 06:08 Nyxisto wrote:
The Russian representative is clearly not well prepared, he needs more youtube footage to prove his point. And I'm surprised by the French reaction, hitting a really harsh tone at this diplomatic level.

I kept telling the Russians to hire zeo. Thats the problem with the mid-range Russian elite that staffs its foreign service and information bureaus, they are just not as slick as we Western propagandists for the Nazi-Fascist Junta of Kiev.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 03 2014 21:10 GMT
#3359
UK calls all claims of Russia fabricated and without evidence and basically calls Russia a failure at any and all treaties including the UN and OSCE.

Calls for a strong and united response from the international community, calls for Ukraine to remain calm. Calls for Russia to deal with the current Ukrainian parliament. Would like to see the UN Secretary General visiting Crimea.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 03 2014 21:11 GMT
#3360
On March 04 2014 06:08 Nyxisto wrote:
The Russian representative is clearly not well prepared, he needs more youtube footage to prove his point. And I'm surprised by the French reaction, hitting a really harsh tone at this diplomatic level.


lol yea he compared the russian diplomacy as a theater in bankruptcy who wants to gain attention, laughed a bit
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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