EPTOn March 01 2013 13:37 Plansix wrote:
They are pretty dumb. But you know, Destiny fans are like that.
They are pretty dumb. But you know, Destiny fans are like that.
it wasn't only Destiny fans that thought SC2 was dying you know...
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ETisME
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it wasn't only Destiny fans that thought SC2 was dying you know... | ||
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MetalxStorm
United States71 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1601 Posts
On March 01 2013 14:01 ETisME wrote: it wasn't only Destiny fans that thought SC2 was dying you know... Yes, it was only Destiny fans. They didn't come to the same conclusion that destiny did at the exact same time. LoL + Dota are just simply bigger, but that does not mean SC2 is dying. For simple comparison when there was ONLY MSL/OSL some finals vods listed on youtube only have 50k views. In SC2 GOMTV has 100k views on particular matches. IPL is simply eyes are bigger than their stomach type of situation they're not failing because SC2 is dying, but more likely because they did everything big which cost them more than throwing an MLG at a bullshit convention center or at their already paid for offices. Some entities in SC2 and gaming in general will eventually be cut out because there are simply too many entities now. Just like when teams die it isn't because SC2 is dying it is because they're hard to maintain especially if there are other better options for investors. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
after all these qualifiers and IPTL, all this hype :/ | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
Not surprising though if the new owners of IGN just don't want to invest all that money into the IPL which they are currently trying to sell off, but sucks nonetheless. You would think that all the preparations were complete and dealt with in advance and the event would have continued onward. I guess the IGN takeover and state of IPL has been unsure for long enough that the viability of IPL 6 was always in question, but to make this fact public would have shaken confidence in the IPL too much at a bad time. | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
On March 01 2013 14:01 ETisME wrote: it wasn't only Destiny fans that thought SC2 was dying you know... It was mostly Destiny fans. If Destiny hadn't had that little rant almost nobody would have thought that SC2 was dying. Except for people who think that if something isn't the most popular then it's dead. LoL won't die if Dota 2 eventually gets bigger than LoL. Dota 2 won't die if LoL remains bigger than it forever, for example. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On March 01 2013 15:33 MVega wrote: It was mostly Destiny fans. If Destiny hadn't had that little rant almost nobody would have thought that SC2 was dying. Except for people who think that if something isn't the most popular then it's dead. LoL won't die if Dota 2 eventually gets bigger than LoL. Dota 2 won't die if LoL remains bigger than it forever, for example. That little rant was the most damaging thing a community member has ever done to this scene. I'm still annoyed at the community for being suckered in by it. The worst part was that almost everything Destiny was demanding had already been announced by Blizzard and was coming in HotS anyway. Completely counter-productive. So glad he has moved on to LoL now. That's what motivated him in the first place, he was annoyed that LoL players were getting more views and he was no longer eating from the biggest pie. | ||
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Wyrd
United States211 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On March 01 2013 15:57 Wyrd wrote: It's looking more and more like it's for sure. This is rough. It's a huge blow to eSports credibility, it's going to sour a lot of fans, and it hurts the American brand. Sundance definitely doing something to make up for it though, let's hope it assuages some things. And this sucks for all the players, too...it just sucks for everyone. Except IGN, I guess. It doesn't hurt esports credibility. IGN was far more than an esports company, in fact a very small part of it. You're making strong inaccurate conclusions. | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
On March 01 2013 15:57 Wyrd wrote: It's looking more and more like it's for sure. This is rough. It's a huge blow to eSports credibility, it's going to sour a lot of fans, and it hurts the American brand. Sundance definitely doing something to make up for it though, let's hope it assuages some things. And this sucks for all the players, too...it just sucks for everyone. Except IGN, I guess. Its not really a blow to esports at all. People fail in business all the time. Anyway- IGN is in a tough spot right now and its not really IPL's fault. When the parent company is in trouble the do what is necessary to survive- like cutting off personal fun projects. THe only big deal about them shutting down is that they havent announced it and it will skrew over a lot of people that have reserved hotels and flights. | ||
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Novacute
Australia313 Posts
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Rowrin
United States280 Posts
They basically saw 2 sucessful events, looking to expand into 4 events every year, to now uncertainty and potential cancellation. It makes the whole scene look risky/uncertain if this turns out to be true. | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
On March 01 2013 16:06 Rowrin wrote: Living in vegas, one big thing that concerns me is what the Cosmopolitan might/currently thinks. They basically saw 2 sucessful events, looking to expand into 4 events every year, to now uncertainty and potential cancellation. It makes the whole scene look risky/uncertain if this turns out to be true. That point can be expressed about about fans as well...just a bad situation if this actually doesn't happen | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On March 01 2013 16:06 Rowrin wrote: Living in vegas, one big thing that concerns me is what the Cosmopolitan might/currently thinks. They basically saw 2 sucessful events, looking to expand into 4 events every year, to now uncertainty and potential cancellation. It makes the whole scene look risky/uncertain if this turns out to be true. Well considering the current situation with IGN (note not IPL) they should be able to understand it. It's not only IPL that has complications atm but whole IGN. | ||
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ETisME
12631 Posts
On March 01 2013 14:15 NoobSkills wrote: Yes, it was only Destiny fans. They didn't come to the same conclusion that destiny did at the exact same time. LoL + Dota are just simply bigger, but that does not mean SC2 is dying. For simple comparison when there was ONLY MSL/OSL some finals vods listed on youtube only have 50k views. In SC2 GOMTV has 100k views on particular matches. IPL is simply eyes are bigger than their stomach type of situation they're not failing because SC2 is dying, but more likely because they did everything big which cost them more than throwing an MLG at a bullshit convention center or at their already paid for offices. Some entities in SC2 and gaming in general will eventually be cut out because there are simply too many entities now. Just like when teams die it isn't because SC2 is dying it is because they're hard to maintain especially if there are other better options for investors. well, this topic might have boomed when Destiny started talking shit about SC2. But it eventually led to quite a lot of posts about stream number falling down across all stream, the much lower pages for tournament threads, then even grubby started a thread to talk about tournament fatigue. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375594 Surely that means even Grubby is acknowledging there is/was a decreasing trend of viewership number. Dying is just another word, I personally would say SC2 is losing out in the esport market. | ||
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Rowrin
United States280 Posts
On March 01 2013 16:18 ETisME wrote: well, this topic might have boomed when Destiny started talking shit about SC2. But it eventually led to quite a lot of posts about stream number falling down across all stream, the much lower pages for tournament threads, then even grubby started a thread to talk about tournament fatigue. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375594 Surely that means even Grubby is acknowledging there is/was a decreasing trend of viewership number. Dying is just another word, I personally would say SC2 is losing out in the esport market. I.P.L. Is. Not. Just. Starcraft. 2. Why. Do. You. People. Keep. Making. This. Statement. | ||
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
On March 01 2013 10:58 Fionn wrote:You can have whatever opinion you want on Scoots, but he's a reliable source with lots of connections in e-sports. He called the Hyun to Quantic merger news a few days before it was announced, so of course he has credibility. My "opinion" is that he's been guessing wildly on Twitter the last few days so I wouldn't use him as a credible source for this affair. Scoots has been posting "BREAKING" news about buyers of IPL how many times now? 4? I don't see why we would trust him on this either. Plus it's just RUMORS. | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
On March 01 2013 16:18 ETisME wrote: well, this topic might have boomed when Destiny started talking shit about SC2. But it eventually led to quite a lot of posts about stream number falling down across all stream, the much lower pages for tournament threads, then even grubby started a thread to talk about tournament fatigue. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375594 Surely that means even Grubby is acknowledging there is/was a decreasing trend of viewership number. Dying is just another word, I personally would say SC2 is losing out in the esport market. And this was already answered by many. The drop in viewers is because there is so much SC2 content that the numbers have just been spread out so much, not that viewers are leaving SC2 altogether. I think even DJwheat said this (TWITCH EMPLOYEE). | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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