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On March 01 2013 13:01 deth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 12:52 Maesy wrote: I like how these two are essentially in a competition to see who can leak more shit and make things worse for the community. Such a mature business model we have for this scene here in the west. That's really not it at all, at the very least this is information that is very much in the public interest (especially for people who might potentially lose a lot of money from having to move and/or cancel flights/hotels). Journalism lives and breathes by breaking stories, and being the first to break a story. It's one of the foundations of modern journalism, and is extremely cutthroat because of the immediacy of the internet. Personally, I praise anyone that would put themselves out there in order to expose information like this. While spoiling player signings/contracts/announcements is a whole different story, it still has it's place for bringing viewers and readers into online publications - while it may be annoying for organisations to have to deal with, it's just a fact of life at this stage.
That's all fine and good but Scoots isn't a journalist.
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Sundance DiGiovanni @MLGSundance
If IPL 6 is actually cancelled I'd like to offer discounted entry to MLG Dallas for those who purchased spec passes. Heavily discounted.
So is the MLG vs IPL competition in full swing now? If this is true, MLG is looking to take IPL's customers.
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On March 01 2013 13:01 deth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 12:52 Maesy wrote: I like how these two are essentially in a competition to see who can leak more shit and make things worse for the community. Such a mature business model we have for this scene here in the west. That's really not it at all, at the very least this is information that is very much in the public interest (especially for people who might potentially lose a lot of money from having to move and/or cancel flights/hotels). Journalism lives and breathes by breaking stories, and being the first to break a story. It's one of the foundations of modern journalism, and is extremely cutthroat because of the immediacy of the internet. Personally, I praise anyone that would put themselves out there in order to expose information like this. While spoiling player signings/contracts/announcements is a whole different story, it still has it's place for bringing viewers and readers into online publications - while it may be annoying for organisations to have to deal with, it's just a fact of life at this stage.
If the whole thing is true then they're going to piss off a whole lot of people that already have those flight tickets and hotel reservations as you said and this is going to do nothing besides make people disappointed early by something that could be complete bullshit and a rumor that's just floating around.
This information should be coming out from IPL, not as a 'leak' from Scoots or Slasher. I just personally think it's getting really fucking annoying.
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On March 01 2013 13:07 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:01 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 12:52 Maesy wrote: I like how these two are essentially in a competition to see who can leak more shit and make things worse for the community. Such a mature business model we have for this scene here in the west. That's really not it at all, at the very least this is information that is very much in the public interest (especially for people who might potentially lose a lot of money from having to move and/or cancel flights/hotels). Journalism lives and breathes by breaking stories, and being the first to break a story. It's one of the foundations of modern journalism, and is extremely cutthroat because of the immediacy of the internet. Personally, I praise anyone that would put themselves out there in order to expose information like this. While spoiling player signings/contracts/announcements is a whole different story, it still has it's place for bringing viewers and readers into online publications - while it may be annoying for organisations to have to deal with, it's just a fact of life at this stage. That's all fine and good but Scoots isn't a journalist.
Citizen journalism is very much a thing in the world of twitter and the blogosphere.
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On March 01 2013 13:08 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:01 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 12:52 Maesy wrote: I like how these two are essentially in a competition to see who can leak more shit and make things worse for the community. Such a mature business model we have for this scene here in the west. That's really not it at all, at the very least this is information that is very much in the public interest (especially for people who might potentially lose a lot of money from having to move and/or cancel flights/hotels). Journalism lives and breathes by breaking stories, and being the first to break a story. It's one of the foundations of modern journalism, and is extremely cutthroat because of the immediacy of the internet. Personally, I praise anyone that would put themselves out there in order to expose information like this. While spoiling player signings/contracts/announcements is a whole different story, it still has it's place for bringing viewers and readers into online publications - while it may be annoying for organisations to have to deal with, it's just a fact of life at this stage. If the whole thing is true then they're going to piss off a whole lot of people that already have those flight tickets and hotel reservations as you said and this is going to do nothing besides make people disappointed early by something that could be complete bullshit and a rumor that's just floating around. This information should be coming out from IPL, not as a 'leak' from Scoots or Slasher. I just personally think it's getting really fucking annoying.
Or saving more people from booking flights and accomodation, or even allowing people to cancel and recoup significant amounts of money. This is a community of largely poor college/university students, whom can't really afford to lose hundreds of dollars in travel and cancellation fees.
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On March 01 2013 13:10 deth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:08 Maesy wrote:On March 01 2013 13:01 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 12:52 Maesy wrote: I like how these two are essentially in a competition to see who can leak more shit and make things worse for the community. Such a mature business model we have for this scene here in the west. That's really not it at all, at the very least this is information that is very much in the public interest (especially for people who might potentially lose a lot of money from having to move and/or cancel flights/hotels). Journalism lives and breathes by breaking stories, and being the first to break a story. It's one of the foundations of modern journalism, and is extremely cutthroat because of the immediacy of the internet. Personally, I praise anyone that would put themselves out there in order to expose information like this. While spoiling player signings/contracts/announcements is a whole different story, it still has it's place for bringing viewers and readers into online publications - while it may be annoying for organisations to have to deal with, it's just a fact of life at this stage. If the whole thing is true then they're going to piss off a whole lot of people that already have those flight tickets and hotel reservations as you said and this is going to do nothing besides make people disappointed early by something that could be complete bullshit and a rumor that's just floating around. This information should be coming out from IPL, not as a 'leak' from Scoots or Slasher. I just personally think it's getting really fucking annoying. Or saving more people from booking flights and accomodation, or even allowing people to cancel and recoup significant amounts of money. This is a community of largely poor college/university students, whom can't really afford to lose hundreds of dollars in travel and cancellation fees.
And who's the best person to 'warn' people about booking their flights and reserving accommodations? The organization hosting the event giving a formal announcement that IPL6 is 'actually' being pushed back and delayed, or Scoots waving his hands and igniting unnecessary rumor drama because he simply enjoys it?
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Guys on State of the Game basically confirmed that it is cancelled.
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On March 01 2013 13:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +Sundance DiGiovanni @MLGSundance
If IPL 6 is actually cancelled I'd like to offer discounted entry to MLG Dallas for those who purchased spec passes. Heavily discounted. So is the MLG vs IPL competition in full swing now? If this is true, MLG is looking to take IPL's customers. customers of ipl were probably already customers of mlg anyway...
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Its really unfortunate that IPL is having so much difficulty after IGN went for sale . I hope that someone can salvage the business.
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On March 01 2013 13:12 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:10 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 13:08 Maesy wrote:On March 01 2013 13:01 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 12:52 Maesy wrote: I like how these two are essentially in a competition to see who can leak more shit and make things worse for the community. Such a mature business model we have for this scene here in the west. That's really not it at all, at the very least this is information that is very much in the public interest (especially for people who might potentially lose a lot of money from having to move and/or cancel flights/hotels). Journalism lives and breathes by breaking stories, and being the first to break a story. It's one of the foundations of modern journalism, and is extremely cutthroat because of the immediacy of the internet. Personally, I praise anyone that would put themselves out there in order to expose information like this. While spoiling player signings/contracts/announcements is a whole different story, it still has it's place for bringing viewers and readers into online publications - while it may be annoying for organisations to have to deal with, it's just a fact of life at this stage. If the whole thing is true then they're going to piss off a whole lot of people that already have those flight tickets and hotel reservations as you said and this is going to do nothing besides make people disappointed early by something that could be complete bullshit and a rumor that's just floating around. This information should be coming out from IPL, not as a 'leak' from Scoots or Slasher. I just personally think it's getting really fucking annoying. Or saving more people from booking flights and accomodation, or even allowing people to cancel and recoup significant amounts of money. This is a community of largely poor college/university students, whom can't really afford to lose hundreds of dollars in travel and cancellation fees. And who's the best person to 'warn' people about booking their flights and reserving accommodations? The organization hosting the event giving a formal announcement that IPL6 is 'actually' being pushed back and delayed, or Scoots waving his hands and igniting unnecessary rumor drama because he simply enjoys it? Honestly, the sooner it is announced, the better for the community. If it pushes IPL to make a statement sooner than they planned too, I'm fine with it.
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On March 01 2013 13:14 HotGlueGun wrote:Guys on State of the Game basically confirmed that it is cancelled. 
Yeah I just heard that too. Really confused on what's going to happen considering they just had a ton of qualifiers and now there's the problem that was stated above. Wasn't this event scheduled to happen very soon?
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On March 01 2013 13:12 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:10 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 13:08 Maesy wrote:On March 01 2013 13:01 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 12:52 Maesy wrote: I like how these two are essentially in a competition to see who can leak more shit and make things worse for the community. Such a mature business model we have for this scene here in the west. That's really not it at all, at the very least this is information that is very much in the public interest (especially for people who might potentially lose a lot of money from having to move and/or cancel flights/hotels). Journalism lives and breathes by breaking stories, and being the first to break a story. It's one of the foundations of modern journalism, and is extremely cutthroat because of the immediacy of the internet. Personally, I praise anyone that would put themselves out there in order to expose information like this. While spoiling player signings/contracts/announcements is a whole different story, it still has it's place for bringing viewers and readers into online publications - while it may be annoying for organisations to have to deal with, it's just a fact of life at this stage. If the whole thing is true then they're going to piss off a whole lot of people that already have those flight tickets and hotel reservations as you said and this is going to do nothing besides make people disappointed early by something that could be complete bullshit and a rumor that's just floating around. This information should be coming out from IPL, not as a 'leak' from Scoots or Slasher. I just personally think it's getting really fucking annoying. Or saving more people from booking flights and accomodation, or even allowing people to cancel and recoup significant amounts of money. This is a community of largely poor college/university students, whom can't really afford to lose hundreds of dollars in travel and cancellation fees. And who's the best person to 'warn' people about booking their flights and reserving accommodations? The organization hosting the event giving a formal announcement that IPL6 is 'actually' being pushed back and delayed, or Scoots waving his hands and igniting unnecessary rumor drama because he simply enjoys it?
The best person to warn the community is he who has reliable information which can be used to protect or help people. If IPL ends up going ahead, then great! Everyone can band together and hunt Scoots with pitchforks. If it does get cancelled, which seems likely given what has been leaked at this stage, hopefully there will be many people reunited with their money or dissuaded from losing their hard-earned. In the latter, we should be praising the efforts of people like scoots/slasher or whoever leaks the information.
It all looks clearer given the benefit of hindsight, but I'm sure if I was looking at booking travel today, and decided to wait and see how things played out, I would be extremely grateful for the information if the worst case scenario does come to pass.
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On March 01 2013 13:16 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:12 Maesy wrote:On March 01 2013 13:10 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 13:08 Maesy wrote:On March 01 2013 13:01 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 12:52 Maesy wrote: I like how these two are essentially in a competition to see who can leak more shit and make things worse for the community. Such a mature business model we have for this scene here in the west. That's really not it at all, at the very least this is information that is very much in the public interest (especially for people who might potentially lose a lot of money from having to move and/or cancel flights/hotels). Journalism lives and breathes by breaking stories, and being the first to break a story. It's one of the foundations of modern journalism, and is extremely cutthroat because of the immediacy of the internet. Personally, I praise anyone that would put themselves out there in order to expose information like this. While spoiling player signings/contracts/announcements is a whole different story, it still has it's place for bringing viewers and readers into online publications - while it may be annoying for organisations to have to deal with, it's just a fact of life at this stage. If the whole thing is true then they're going to piss off a whole lot of people that already have those flight tickets and hotel reservations as you said and this is going to do nothing besides make people disappointed early by something that could be complete bullshit and a rumor that's just floating around. This information should be coming out from IPL, not as a 'leak' from Scoots or Slasher. I just personally think it's getting really fucking annoying. Or saving more people from booking flights and accomodation, or even allowing people to cancel and recoup significant amounts of money. This is a community of largely poor college/university students, whom can't really afford to lose hundreds of dollars in travel and cancellation fees. And who's the best person to 'warn' people about booking their flights and reserving accommodations? The organization hosting the event giving a formal announcement that IPL6 is 'actually' being pushed back and delayed, or Scoots waving his hands and igniting unnecessary rumor drama because he simply enjoys it? Honestly, the sooner it is announced, the better for the community. If it pushes IPL to make a statement sooner than they planned too, I'm fine with it.
Yeah. Now that I heard it on SotG I understand they're pushing the issue to stop people from getting fucked over.
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Am I the only one who gets slightly annoyed when Kennigit posts on reddit and not here? I feel betrayed. I know it's dumb but I can't help it!
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SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well..
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On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well..
You are an idiot, and IPL wasn't just SC2, but LoL and other games as well. You can't blame this on starcraft..
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Noooo IPL6 why cancelled. i wanna see hots in IPL 6!
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On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well..
IPL6, a primarily League of Legends event might be cancelled.
STARCRAFT 2 IS DYINGGGGGRGGG
Fuckin community
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On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well.. That's not at all what they said but keep digging.
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hopefully its just postponed until its HotS (wishful thinking)
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