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On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well..
SC2 isn't dying. There were too many organizations and events colliding with each other and not enough money in the first place. It's probably a better thing if some of the organizations fall off so we're not constantly killing each other off until all we have left is GSL. Also mentioned before I typed this, League of Legends always had like 5x the viewers. Look back at the twitch viewers from Katowice. It was fucking insane.
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Korean IPL6 LoL qualifiers was cancelled yesterday, according to a tweet. If that's true... IPL is done. And since people don't like SC2 dying, eSports dying! lol 
$100 000 event... Damn that's a huge sunk cost. Hopefully IGN and IPL can pull through somehow. GOM to the rescue?
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On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well.. are you a complete idiot? the whole point they made was that sc2 isnt dying and people like you who cry its dying every 5 seconds are morons.
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On March 01 2013 13:07 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:01 deth wrote:On March 01 2013 12:52 Maesy wrote: I like how these two are essentially in a competition to see who can leak more shit and make things worse for the community. Such a mature business model we have for this scene here in the west. That's really not it at all, at the very least this is information that is very much in the public interest (especially for people who might potentially lose a lot of money from having to move and/or cancel flights/hotels). Journalism lives and breathes by breaking stories, and being the first to break a story. It's one of the foundations of modern journalism, and is extremely cutthroat because of the immediacy of the internet. Personally, I praise anyone that would put themselves out there in order to expose information like this. While spoiling player signings/contracts/announcements is a whole different story, it still has it's place for bringing viewers and readers into online publications - while it may be annoying for organisations to have to deal with, it's just a fact of life at this stage. That's all fine and good but Scoots isn't a journalist.
You're right, it's not journalism. Still though, I'd rather have as much time as possible to try and muster refunds for the flights and accommodations we've booked and I appreciate the opportunity to do such whether by a journalist or not.
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On March 01 2013 13:26 geokilla wrote:Korean IPL6 LoL qualifiers was cancelled yesterday, according to a tweet. If that's true... IPL is done. And since people don't like SC2 dying, eSports dying! lol  $100 000 event... Damn that's a huge sunk cost. Hopefully IGN and IPL can pull through somehow. GOM to the rescue?
You don't seem to understand this is IGN being sold and has so little to do with esports :/
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On March 01 2013 13:24 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well.. SC2 isn't dying. There were too many organizations and events colliding with each other and not enough money. It's probably a better thing if some of the organizations fall off so we're not constantly killing each other off until all we have left is GSL. How many events, in NA anyways? I can only think of MLG, IPL, and NASL. IPL is far better than NASL imo. In fact, I actually prefer IPL over MLG.. The free HD VODs won me over, along with IPL5.
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Makes sense honestly, when the parent company says they're trying to sell IPL it's pretty hard to imagine how they would be putting on major live events...
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I called this a few weeks ago but was doubted by most.
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On March 01 2013 13:28 nomyx wrote: I called this a few weeks ago but was doubted by most. Dude. Nobody cares. A random suspicion by an internet stranger vs IPL. Now it's another story.
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On March 01 2013 13:27 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:24 Maesy wrote:On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well.. SC2 isn't dying. There were too many organizations and events colliding with each other and not enough money. It's probably a better thing if some of the organizations fall off so we're not constantly killing each other off until all we have left is GSL. How many events, in NA anyways? I can only think of MLG, IPL, and NASL. IPL is far better than NASL imo. In fact, I actually prefer IPL over MLG.. The free HD VODs won me over, along with IPL5.
I preferred NASL over IPL because their finals were so enticing to me but I don't want to turn this into opinion on favorites xD. That's pretty much all it is for NA. But Even 3 seems like -too- much for NA to be competing with each other. Feel free to disagree if you feel I'm wrong.
I don't ever think I've ever heard one of these organizations come out and say they did great and had an amazing turnout and made a great profit.
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I'm hoping all of the IPL staff went to church together for hte past 2.5 hours which is why they haven't said anything
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On March 01 2013 13:30 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:28 nomyx wrote: I called this a few weeks ago but was doubted by most. Dude. Nobody cares. A random suspicion by an internet stranger vs IPL. Now it's another story.
Of course, people deny stuff all the time until it's too late.
So apparently they cancelled the event to cut back.
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IPL has provided incredibly high quality content for non korean standards, it's truly a shame. This doesn't surprise me though, and Starcraft eSports is definitely getting smaller and is progressively starving.
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God damn this really sucks considering 8 players from my favorite team were going and playing in IPL6 and IPTL finals.
poor DRG works hard to win qualifier and IPTL and has nothing to show for it
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On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well..
That is the exact opposite of what they said on State of the Game, in every way. You must have miss the part where they were talking, or you are learning impaired. Or your trolling. Or all of those.
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On March 01 2013 13:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well.. are you a complete idiot? the whole point they made was that sc2 isnt dying and people like you who cry its dying every 5 seconds are morons.
They are pretty dumb. But you know, Destiny fans are like that.
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Regarding if its true or not should be pretty easy to find out since a prolonged absence of a response from IPL denying this basically will confirm it. If they haven't clarified this within the next days then it's prolly true.
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You guys keep saying how awesome IPL5 was, but you seem to forget that GOM basically provided all production
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On March 01 2013 13:37 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well.. are you a complete idiot? the whole point they made was that sc2 isnt dying and people like you who cry its dying every 5 seconds are morons. They are pretty dumb. But you know, Destiny fans are like that. But I hate Destiny...
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On March 01 2013 13:51 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 13:37 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 13:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well.. are you a complete idiot? the whole point they made was that sc2 isnt dying and people like you who cry its dying every 5 seconds are morons. They are pretty dumb. But you know, Destiny fans are like that. But I hate Destiny...
You still said SC2 is dying. YOU ARE ON OF THEM!!!!!
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