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China6326 Posts
On March 01 2013 20:41 Awesomeness wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 20:36 sashkata wrote: There are two pretty good reasons for them to postpone it. 1) So that they can use their Capcom fighting game titles. IPL6 was going to clash with a fighting game event (afaik) and you know how that community is. If you clash with one of their events they will boycott you for the rest of time. 2) So that they can run their main SC2 tournament on Hots. Right now there is no way for them to change to hots without getting a lot of shit. But if the event is postponed by a month or so, they pretty much have to switch it to Hots.
Just a theory. There is no way they would postpone it on such short notice, because of stuff like this. I think it's more likely that they didn't find a buyer for IPL and are shutting the whole thing down.
They have a buyer.
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On March 01 2013 15:54 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 15:33 MVega wrote:On March 01 2013 14:01 ETisME wrote:On March 01 2013 13:37 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 13:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On March 01 2013 13:21 geokilla wrote: SC2 is dying. State of the Game just said that with the successful WOL launch, people might have over invested, such as IPL. Plus eSports is very strong now, especially with DOTA and LoL.
Interestingly enough, IPL5 was profitable... but probably the only profitable event.
So does this mean that IPL's partnership with GOM is over? I think the termination costs with GOM would be pretty huge as well.. are you a complete idiot? the whole point they made was that sc2 isnt dying and people like you who cry its dying every 5 seconds are morons. They are pretty dumb. But you know, Destiny fans are like that. it wasn't only Destiny fans that thought SC2 was dying you know... It was mostly Destiny fans. If Destiny hadn't had that little rant almost nobody would have thought that SC2 was dying. Except for people who think that if something isn't the most popular then it's dead. LoL won't die if Dota 2 eventually gets bigger than LoL. Dota 2 won't die if LoL remains bigger than it forever, for example. That little rant was the most damaging thing a community member has ever done to this scene. I'm still annoyed at the community for being suckered in by it. The worst part was that almost everything Destiny was demanding had already been announced by Blizzard and was coming in HotS anyway. Completely counter-productive. So glad he has moved on to LoL now. That's what motivated him in the first place, he was annoyed that LoL players were getting more views and he was no longer eating from the biggest pie.
I disagree. Even as someone who doesn't really like Destiny (only because he says offensive things!), all the points he brought up were good.
Even if Blizzard already intended to do all the things in HotS (which is true because they released the stuff fairly early after the Destiny thread, which meant they worked on it long before he made that thread), it's good because what if they didn't?
It's the "do you really want chat channels?" thing all over again. (Or the Real ID fiasco which did require a response from Mike Morhaime himself.) You need to complain hard at Blizzard or else they think "oh well, no one will care about <insert feature here>".
[b]Though, negativity does have certain affects on the game (like people may have probably left SC2 for other games because of the negativity bandwagon). And I definitely do agree on that too. (I come from another set of forums that does episode reviews for a certain series. And I remember a well established fan of the series ranting or hating on something after many liked the episode, then everyone just followed suit >.>.)
On the up side, it may push Blizzard to work harder at fixing things (though I honestly don't know how it works at Blizzard... I'm sure Dustin Browder always try his hardest but the thing that matters the most is how much resources the highest ups at Blizzard gives them).
So overall, you can complain or give feedback to Blizzard but definitely not overdo the negativity (as it can leave an impression to the public that can cause players to leave or not join in on the game).
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On March 01 2013 20:48 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 20:41 Awesomeness wrote:On March 01 2013 20:36 sashkata wrote: There are two pretty good reasons for them to postpone it. 1) So that they can use their Capcom fighting game titles. IPL6 was going to clash with a fighting game event (afaik) and you know how that community is. If you clash with one of their events they will boycott you for the rest of time. 2) So that they can run their main SC2 tournament on Hots. Right now there is no way for them to change to hots without getting a lot of shit. But if the event is postponed by a month or so, they pretty much have to switch it to Hots.
Just a theory. There is no way they would postpone it on such short notice, because of stuff like this. I think it's more likely that they didn't find a buyer for IPL and are shutting the whole thing down. They have a buyer.
And who exactly is the buyer?
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I would like my fifteen dollars back so I can buy me something nice
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On March 01 2013 22:00 zantomun wrote: I would like my fifteen dollars back so I can buy me something nice Buy a book on grammar.
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United States33077 Posts
I don't see it as very different from what scoots said, except that gamespot/slasher are willing to draw a more confident conclusion than scoots, who preferred to hedge a little more.
but given the evidence people are presenting, you couldn't blame fans for deducing that it's essentially dead
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Not IPL, they are what made interested in SC2 in the first place. IPL 5 was so awesome, even for me who couldn't see everything.
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werent ipl employes laughing at ppl who were worried about ipl? Maybe you should have been a bit more honest about the situation when people spent money on travelling to your event.
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Would have been a disaster in viewership numbers anyway with HotS out. That said, cancelling a tournament ruins IPL's name and is going to make it much harder to sell as a recognized 'brand'.
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I wonder if Blizzard will try to save it Injecting several millions into IPL6 to give it one last harrah will make Blizzard a hero, even if it's a financial loss.
If they don't, IPL6's demise might tarnish the launch of HotS indirectly...
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dont see ipl surviving should this be true, the damage to the brand is gonna be too big especially in korea
hell, qualifiers were run over like the last 3 months and broadcasted weekly, actually i still want to refuse to believe this is true
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
Well that sucks
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The claims of sponsors getting their promotional items returned back and OGN cancelling their LoL qualifiers for IPL seem to be solid evidence of a cancellation, unfortunately.
I hope this all just means a cancellation for this one event and that there would still be future events.
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On March 01 2013 22:16 Derez wrote: Would have been a disaster in viewership numbers anyway with HotS out. That said, cancelling a tournament ruins IPL's name and is going to make it much harder to sell as a recognized 'brand'.
I don't think anyone wanted to buy it regardless. I mean, even if you were interested in investing in an esports tournament like IPL, it doesn't make a lot of sense to buy one that is bleeding money, plus, why not just make your own?
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On March 01 2013 22:25 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 22:16 Derez wrote: Would have been a disaster in viewership numbers anyway with HotS out. That said, cancelling a tournament ruins IPL's name and is going to make it much harder to sell as a recognized 'brand'. I don't think anyone wanted to buy it regardless. I mean, even if you were interested in investing in an esports tournament like IPL, it doesn't make a lot of sense to buy one that is bleeding money, plus, why not just make your own?
Where did you read that IPL was bleeding money?
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On March 01 2013 22:27 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 22:25 AnomalySC2 wrote:On March 01 2013 22:16 Derez wrote: Would have been a disaster in viewership numbers anyway with HotS out. That said, cancelling a tournament ruins IPL's name and is going to make it much harder to sell as a recognized 'brand'. I don't think anyone wanted to buy it regardless. I mean, even if you were interested in investing in an esports tournament like IPL, it doesn't make a lot of sense to buy one that is bleeding money, plus, why not just make your own? Where did you read that IPL was bleeding money? That's what uninformed kids say on reddit, come on, are you saying people are just making shit up on the internet? That never happens!
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On March 01 2013 22:27 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 22:25 AnomalySC2 wrote:On March 01 2013 22:16 Derez wrote: Would have been a disaster in viewership numbers anyway with HotS out. That said, cancelling a tournament ruins IPL's name and is going to make it much harder to sell as a recognized 'brand'. I don't think anyone wanted to buy it regardless. I mean, even if you were interested in investing in an esports tournament like IPL, it doesn't make a lot of sense to buy one that is bleeding money, plus, why not just make your own? Where did you read that IPL was bleeding money?
My brain. The viewer numbers for IPL sc2 are lower than a lot of player streams themselves (note, I'm not talking about the finals that take place in Las Vegas, just the regular online stream). There is just no way they're recouping costs with such a small amount of viewers.... Then, of course, there is the common sense argument, who is going to sell something that makes them profit? IPL is not going to come out and straight up say, "hey we're a giant money pit!!!!". Especially when they're trying to sell it off.
On a side note, I'm not getting pulled into this argument again, sorry. If you can't see the obvious....
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Not the biggest surprise ever, since just a week ago people were talking about rumours about how IGN were looking to sell off the IPL franchise. If this is the end of IPL it'll be a big shame, after IPL5 they'd positioned themselves as the number one premier US tournament in my eyes, as well as a lot of other people. Hopefully something can be done.
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