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On January 26 2018 01:54 Plansix wrote:
Most of my right leaning friends don’t have a problem with John Oliver because he isn’t news and doesn’t try to claim to be. He digs into a topic and uses comedy to make people pay attention. And he doesn’t claim to be objective.
Does he do good reports, though? They look good. I'm told they research. But is it actually good? I hear the same things about Rachel Maddow, you see, so I don't really know where to judge them. I watch Oliver but not Maddow (there aren't really many ways to view either Fox or MSNBC over here, or indeed most US channels).
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On January 26 2018 05:26 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
DoJ has found the missing text messages. The deletions happened to thousands of FBI agents phones.
The Deep State plot to turn over the missing incriminating text messages just got one level deeper.
Oh dear. The conspiracy theorists are going to have fun with this one...
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On January 26 2018 05:36 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 05:26 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
DoJ has found the missing text messages. The deletions happened to thousands of FBI agents phones.
The Deep State plot to turn over the missing incriminating text messages just got one level deeper. Oh dear. The conspiracy theorists are going to have fun with this one...
I'm going to enjoy when the same conspiracy theories simultaneously claim the recovered texts are forgeries to cover up the conspiracy and that the texts contain coded language that they were using to discuss whatever complicated plan the theorists come up with.
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On January 26 2018 05:26 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
DoJ has found the missing text messages. The deletions happened to thousands of FBI agents phones.
The Deep State plot to turn over the missing incriminating text messages just got one level deeper.
Did McCabe hit the button to delete all the texts when Trump asked him who he voted for?
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Maybe it was that guy from Hawaii again.
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On January 26 2018 06:02 Gahlo wrote:
Maybe it was that guy from Hawaii again.
He entered the wrong twitter password 5 times and so the FBI text got deleted. Standard tech stuff guys!
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On January 26 2018 05:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:There's even more to the Drug Wars: Heroin story when you look at Afghanistan and it's Heroin production before and after we invaded. Also the strange coincidence that while Afghanistan provides most of the worlds Heroin virtually none of it seems to come here according to the DEA. Of course there's an alternative explanation that goes something like the CIA is trafficking drugs again and this time it's Heroin out of Afghanistan. Then the DEA also conveniently only arrest/seize their competition from Mexico/South America (Columbia). Naturally sometimes this causes mix ups with their street dealers. Officers from the 12th precinct, who were "pretending" to sell drugs in an attempt to arrest drug users, were approached by two officers from the 11th precinct, who treated them as they would any other “drug dealers” and attempted to arrest them. The city’s police chief called the move a “very embarrassing situation.” Source Another fact free assertion with no evidence. This theory makes no sense. What exactly do the CIA get out of running this supposed program, besides the eventual uncovering of the operation, resulting in severe damage to the agency? Where does the money go? Why would the CIA not simply get its budget by asking Congress for money, like it does every single year as part of the normal appropriations process? You seem to have uncritically bought Gary Webb's conspiracy theories about the CIA selling drugs to Americans to fund their operations. An article about 2 undercover Detroit cops get busted by other Detroit cops has precisely nothing to do with Afghanistan or the CIA.
The long and short of it is that the CIA is part of the Military-industrial complex and drugs are an important part.
Sources are sketchy regarding details, but without bickering over specific numbers or accepting causation there's a clear correlation to the US being in Afghanistan and their heroin production almost tripling, alongside of Heroin use and deaths in the US.
I feel like this one little blurb sums the game up pretty well.
Eradicating opium poppies has been a key pillar of U.S. policy in Afghanistan since 2004, said Doug Wankel, director of the U.S. Counter-Narcotics Task Force in Afghanistan.
Yet today, Afghanistan produces roughly 93 percent of the world's illicit opium, according to the UNODC report, and the Taliban are making inroads in remote areas of the country thanks, in part, to proceeds from the drug trade.
Source
EDIT: This triggered a great terrible idea. We should just ship our shitty police departments over there and let them handle all the drug dealers.
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That is just the CIA and US government not being successful in stopping the opium farms. There has been reporting on that for years and how difficult it is, because growing food is not profitable and the opium farmers often get threatened if they decide to stop. That country is super poor, its farmers are super poor and the government can’t protect those farmers from the Taliban, who really wants them to grow opium.
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On January 26 2018 05:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:There's even more to the Drug Wars: Heroin story when you look at Afghanistan and it's Heroin production before and after we invaded. Also the strange coincidence that while Afghanistan provides most of the worlds Heroin virtually none of it seems to come here according to the DEA. Of course there's an alternative explanation that goes something like the CIA is trafficking drugs again and this time it's Heroin out of Afghanistan. Then the DEA also conveniently only arrest/seize their competition from Mexico/South America (Columbia). Naturally sometimes this causes mix ups with their street dealers. Officers from the 12th precinct, who were "pretending" to sell drugs in an attempt to arrest drug users, were approached by two officers from the 11th precinct, who treated them as they would any other “drug dealers” and attempted to arrest them. The city’s police chief called the move a “very embarrassing situation.” Source Another fact free assertion with no evidence. This theory makes no sense. What exactly do the CIA get out of running this supposed program, besides the eventual uncovering of the operation, resulting in severe damage to the agency? Where does the money go? Why would the CIA not simply get its budget by asking Congress for money, like it does every single year as part of the normal appropriations process? You seem to have uncritically bought Gary Webb's conspiracy theories about the CIA selling drugs to Americans to fund their operations. An article about 2 undercover Detroit cops get busted by other Detroit cops has precisely nothing to do with Afghanistan or the CIA.
I assume the CIA has to explain where they spend the money from Congress to the Intelligence committee?
The use of a drug money operation is to get money that you don't have to declare.
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On January 26 2018 06:11 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 05:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On January 26 2018 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:There's even more to the Drug Wars: Heroin story when you look at Afghanistan and it's Heroin production before and after we invaded. Also the strange coincidence that while Afghanistan provides most of the worlds Heroin virtually none of it seems to come here according to the DEA. Of course there's an alternative explanation that goes something like the CIA is trafficking drugs again and this time it's Heroin out of Afghanistan. Then the DEA also conveniently only arrest/seize their competition from Mexico/South America (Columbia). Naturally sometimes this causes mix ups with their street dealers. Officers from the 12th precinct, who were "pretending" to sell drugs in an attempt to arrest drug users, were approached by two officers from the 11th precinct, who treated them as they would any other “drug dealers” and attempted to arrest them. The city’s police chief called the move a “very embarrassing situation.” Source Another fact free assertion with no evidence. This theory makes no sense. What exactly do the CIA get out of running this supposed program, besides the eventual uncovering of the operation, resulting in severe damage to the agency? Where does the money go? Why would the CIA not simply get its budget by asking Congress for money, like it does every single year as part of the normal appropriations process? You seem to have uncritically bought Gary Webb's conspiracy theories about the CIA selling drugs to Americans to fund their operations. An article about 2 undercover Detroit cops get busted by other Detroit cops has precisely nothing to do with Afghanistan or the CIA. The long and short of it is that the CIA is part of the Military-industrial complex and drugs are an important part. Sources are sketchy regarding details, but without bickering over specific numbers or accepting causation there's a clear correlation to the US being in Afghanistan and their heroin production almost tripling, alongside of Heroin use and deaths in the US. I feel like this one little blurb sums the game up pretty well. Show nested quote +Eradicating opium poppies has been a key pillar of U.S. policy in Afghanistan since 2004, said Doug Wankel, director of the U.S. Counter-Narcotics Task Force in Afghanistan.
Yet today, Afghanistan produces roughly 93 percent of the world's illicit opium, according to the UNODC report, and the Taliban are making inroads in remote areas of the country thanks, in part, to proceeds from the drug trade. SourceEDIT: This triggered a great terrible idea. We should just ship our shitty police departments over there and let them handle all the drug dealers.
You have literally no evidence. Got it.
EDIT: That article you linked says the US wants to stop opium and heroin production in Afghanistan, and the Taliban are the ones trying to grow it in order to get money to fund their operations. Why do you think it's actually the other way around, on the basis of absolutely nothing?
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On January 26 2018 06:15 Plansix wrote:
That is just the CIA and US government not being successful in stopping the opium farms. There has been reporting on that for years and how difficult it is, because growing food is not profitable and the opium farmers often get threatened if they decide to stop. That country is super poor, its farmers are super poor and the government can’t protect those farmers from the Taliban, who really wants them to grow opium.
If the entire might of the US military and the CIA can't stop people from growing drugs in open fields and shipping out 90% of the worlds heroin/opium we really should just shut the whole thing down.
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On January 26 2018 06:16 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 05:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On January 26 2018 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:There's even more to the Drug Wars: Heroin story when you look at Afghanistan and it's Heroin production before and after we invaded. Also the strange coincidence that while Afghanistan provides most of the worlds Heroin virtually none of it seems to come here according to the DEA. Of course there's an alternative explanation that goes something like the CIA is trafficking drugs again and this time it's Heroin out of Afghanistan. Then the DEA also conveniently only arrest/seize their competition from Mexico/South America (Columbia). Naturally sometimes this causes mix ups with their street dealers. Officers from the 12th precinct, who were "pretending" to sell drugs in an attempt to arrest drug users, were approached by two officers from the 11th precinct, who treated them as they would any other “drug dealers” and attempted to arrest them. The city’s police chief called the move a “very embarrassing situation.” Source Another fact free assertion with no evidence. This theory makes no sense. What exactly do the CIA get out of running this supposed program, besides the eventual uncovering of the operation, resulting in severe damage to the agency? Where does the money go? Why would the CIA not simply get its budget by asking Congress for money, like it does every single year as part of the normal appropriations process? You seem to have uncritically bought Gary Webb's conspiracy theories about the CIA selling drugs to Americans to fund their operations. An article about 2 undercover Detroit cops get busted by other Detroit cops has precisely nothing to do with Afghanistan or the CIA. I assume the CIA has to explain where they spend the money from Congress to the Intelligence committee? The use of a drug money operation is to get money that you don't have to declare.
Right, my question is, assuming what you are saying is true, why does the CIA want this money so badly they will violate literally every rule in place about CIA operations to get it? What could possibly be so important?
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On January 26 2018 06:30 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 06:15 Plansix wrote:
That is just the CIA and US government not being successful in stopping the opium farms. There has been reporting on that for years and how difficult it is, because growing food is not profitable and the opium farmers often get threatened if they decide to stop. That country is super poor, its farmers are super poor and the government can’t protect those farmers from the Taliban, who really wants them to grow opium. If the entire might of the US military and the CIA can't stop people from growing drugs in open fields and shipping out 90% of the worlds heroin/opium we really should just shut the whole thing down.
There are 4000 US troops in Afghanistan. That is a really really small number, in a country of 34.6 million. Given those numbers, it is not at all surprising that 4k US soldiers can't stop Afghans from doing whatever the hell they want.
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On January 26 2018 06:30 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 06:15 Plansix wrote:
That is just the CIA and US government not being successful in stopping the opium farms. There has been reporting on that for years and how difficult it is, because growing food is not profitable and the opium farmers often get threatened if they decide to stop. That country is super poor, its farmers are super poor and the government can’t protect those farmers from the Taliban, who really wants them to grow opium. If the entire might of the US military and the CIA can't stop people from growing drugs in open fields and shipping out 90% of the worlds heroin/opium we really should just shut the whole thing down.
I mean, the entire might of the US military and the CIA can deal with American gangs the same way, but I don't see you clamouring for that.
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On January 26 2018 05:35 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 01:54 Plansix wrote:
Most of my right leaning friends don’t have a problem with John Oliver because he isn’t news and doesn’t try to claim to be. He digs into a topic and uses comedy to make people pay attention. And he doesn’t claim to be objective. Does he do good reports, though? They look good. I'm told they research. But is it actually good? I hear the same things about Rachel Maddow, you see, so I don't really know where to judge them. I watch Oliver but not Maddow (there aren't really many ways to view either Fox or MSNBC over here, or indeed most US channels).
It's pretty hit and miss, especially in the last season with all of the election nonsense and Trump. If you go back to season 1 or 2 there was a lot more quality content.
There's also a question of 'what is good content.' It has a very clear liberal agenda/slant, but I wouldn't consider that bad reporting, as the show doesn't hide this fact and understanding the biases of the source is important for understanding the reporting regardless.
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On January 26 2018 06:32 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 06:16 Gorsameth wrote:On January 26 2018 05:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On January 26 2018 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:There's even more to the Drug Wars: Heroin story when you look at Afghanistan and it's Heroin production before and after we invaded. Also the strange coincidence that while Afghanistan provides most of the worlds Heroin virtually none of it seems to come here according to the DEA. Of course there's an alternative explanation that goes something like the CIA is trafficking drugs again and this time it's Heroin out of Afghanistan. Then the DEA also conveniently only arrest/seize their competition from Mexico/South America (Columbia). Naturally sometimes this causes mix ups with their street dealers. Officers from the 12th precinct, who were "pretending" to sell drugs in an attempt to arrest drug users, were approached by two officers from the 11th precinct, who treated them as they would any other “drug dealers” and attempted to arrest them. The city’s police chief called the move a “very embarrassing situation.” Source Another fact free assertion with no evidence. This theory makes no sense. What exactly do the CIA get out of running this supposed program, besides the eventual uncovering of the operation, resulting in severe damage to the agency? Where does the money go? Why would the CIA not simply get its budget by asking Congress for money, like it does every single year as part of the normal appropriations process? You seem to have uncritically bought Gary Webb's conspiracy theories about the CIA selling drugs to Americans to fund their operations. An article about 2 undercover Detroit cops get busted by other Detroit cops has precisely nothing to do with Afghanistan or the CIA. I assume the CIA has to explain where they spend the money from Congress to the Intelligence committee? The use of a drug money operation is to get money that you don't have to declare. Right, my question is, assuming what you are saying is true, why does the CIA want this money so badly they will violate literally every rule in place about CIA operations to get it? What could possibly be so important?
Operations and assets that they don't want Congress to know about obviously.
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On January 26 2018 06:36 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 06:32 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On January 26 2018 06:16 Gorsameth wrote:On January 26 2018 05:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On January 26 2018 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:There's even more to the Drug Wars: Heroin story when you look at Afghanistan and it's Heroin production before and after we invaded. Also the strange coincidence that while Afghanistan provides most of the worlds Heroin virtually none of it seems to come here according to the DEA. Of course there's an alternative explanation that goes something like the CIA is trafficking drugs again and this time it's Heroin out of Afghanistan. Then the DEA also conveniently only arrest/seize their competition from Mexico/South America (Columbia). Naturally sometimes this causes mix ups with their street dealers. Officers from the 12th precinct, who were "pretending" to sell drugs in an attempt to arrest drug users, were approached by two officers from the 11th precinct, who treated them as they would any other “drug dealers” and attempted to arrest them. The city’s police chief called the move a “very embarrassing situation.” Source Another fact free assertion with no evidence. This theory makes no sense. What exactly do the CIA get out of running this supposed program, besides the eventual uncovering of the operation, resulting in severe damage to the agency? Where does the money go? Why would the CIA not simply get its budget by asking Congress for money, like it does every single year as part of the normal appropriations process? You seem to have uncritically bought Gary Webb's conspiracy theories about the CIA selling drugs to Americans to fund their operations. An article about 2 undercover Detroit cops get busted by other Detroit cops has precisely nothing to do with Afghanistan or the CIA. I assume the CIA has to explain where they spend the money from Congress to the Intelligence committee? The use of a drug money operation is to get money that you don't have to declare. Right, my question is, assuming what you are saying is true, why does the CIA want this money so badly they will violate literally every rule in place about CIA operations to get it? What could possibly be so important? Operations and assets that they don't want Congress to know about obviously.
Which can be exposed by a bunch of reporters figuring it out and writing a story about it? I get that it seems like it would work, but it would also be super easy to figure out.
Also, how do they use this drug money? Is there a debt card or something? Do they just add it into the budget each year? How do they move it around?
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On January 26 2018 06:29 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 06:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 26 2018 05:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On January 26 2018 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:There's even more to the Drug Wars: Heroin story when you look at Afghanistan and it's Heroin production before and after we invaded. Also the strange coincidence that while Afghanistan provides most of the worlds Heroin virtually none of it seems to come here according to the DEA. Of course there's an alternative explanation that goes something like the CIA is trafficking drugs again and this time it's Heroin out of Afghanistan. Then the DEA also conveniently only arrest/seize their competition from Mexico/South America (Columbia). Naturally sometimes this causes mix ups with their street dealers. Officers from the 12th precinct, who were "pretending" to sell drugs in an attempt to arrest drug users, were approached by two officers from the 11th precinct, who treated them as they would any other “drug dealers” and attempted to arrest them. The city’s police chief called the move a “very embarrassing situation.” Source Another fact free assertion with no evidence. This theory makes no sense. What exactly do the CIA get out of running this supposed program, besides the eventual uncovering of the operation, resulting in severe damage to the agency? Where does the money go? Why would the CIA not simply get its budget by asking Congress for money, like it does every single year as part of the normal appropriations process? You seem to have uncritically bought Gary Webb's conspiracy theories about the CIA selling drugs to Americans to fund their operations. An article about 2 undercover Detroit cops get busted by other Detroit cops has precisely nothing to do with Afghanistan or the CIA. The long and short of it is that the CIA is part of the Military-industrial complex and drugs are an important part. Sources are sketchy regarding details, but without bickering over specific numbers or accepting causation there's a clear correlation to the US being in Afghanistan and their heroin production almost tripling, alongside of Heroin use and deaths in the US. I feel like this one little blurb sums the game up pretty well. Eradicating opium poppies has been a key pillar of U.S. policy in Afghanistan since 2004, said Doug Wankel, director of the U.S. Counter-Narcotics Task Force in Afghanistan.
Yet today, Afghanistan produces roughly 93 percent of the world's illicit opium, according to the UNODC report, and the Taliban are making inroads in remote areas of the country thanks, in part, to proceeds from the drug trade. SourceEDIT: This triggered a great terrible idea. We should just ship our shitty police departments over there and let them handle all the drug dealers. You have literally no evidence. Got it. EDIT: That article you linked says the US wants to stop opium and heroin production in Afghanistan, and the Taliban are the ones trying to grow it in order to get money to fund their operations. Why do you think it's actually the other way around, on the basis of absolutely nothing?
On January 26 2018 06:29 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 06:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 26 2018 05:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On January 26 2018 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:There's even more to the Drug Wars: Heroin story when you look at Afghanistan and it's Heroin production before and after we invaded. Also the strange coincidence that while Afghanistan provides most of the worlds Heroin virtually none of it seems to come here according to the DEA. Of course there's an alternative explanation that goes something like the CIA is trafficking drugs again and this time it's Heroin out of Afghanistan. Then the DEA also conveniently only arrest/seize their competition from Mexico/South America (Columbia). Naturally sometimes this causes mix ups with their street dealers. Officers from the 12th precinct, who were "pretending" to sell drugs in an attempt to arrest drug users, were approached by two officers from the 11th precinct, who treated them as they would any other “drug dealers” and attempted to arrest them. The city’s police chief called the move a “very embarrassing situation.” Source Another fact free assertion with no evidence. This theory makes no sense. What exactly do the CIA get out of running this supposed program, besides the eventual uncovering of the operation, resulting in severe damage to the agency? Where does the money go? Why would the CIA not simply get its budget by asking Congress for money, like it does every single year as part of the normal appropriations process? You seem to have uncritically bought Gary Webb's conspiracy theories about the CIA selling drugs to Americans to fund their operations. An article about 2 undercover Detroit cops get busted by other Detroit cops has precisely nothing to do with Afghanistan or the CIA. The long and short of it is that the CIA is part of the Military-industrial complex and drugs are an important part. Sources are sketchy regarding details, but without bickering over specific numbers or accepting causation there's a clear correlation to the US being in Afghanistan and their heroin production almost tripling, alongside of Heroin use and deaths in the US. I feel like this one little blurb sums the game up pretty well. Eradicating opium poppies has been a key pillar of U.S. policy in Afghanistan since 2004, said Doug Wankel, director of the U.S. Counter-Narcotics Task Force in Afghanistan.
Yet today, Afghanistan produces roughly 93 percent of the world's illicit opium, according to the UNODC report, and the Taliban are making inroads in remote areas of the country thanks, in part, to proceeds from the drug trade. SourceEDIT: This triggered a great terrible idea. We should just ship our shitty police departments over there and let them handle all the drug dealers. You have literally no evidence. Got it.
No, the cop thing was a joke and you clearly have a dramatically different interpretation of US foreign affairs and I'm not interested in going through the entirety of the US international drug trade with you.
We have a heroin epidemic in the US, we also oversaw the rapid growth of Heroin production in Afghanistan from a low in 2001 (when the Taliban had nearly eradicated poppy production in the country in a single year)
The first American narcotics experts to go to Afghanistan under Taliban rule have concluded that the movement's ban on opium-poppy cultivation appears to have wiped out the world's largest crop in less than a year, officials said today.
www.nytimes.com
to now record level production:
The production increased by 87 percent and stands at a record level of 9,921 tons so far in 2017, compared to the 2016 levels of 5,291 tons.
www.cbsnews.com
But it's crazy to think it was intentional.
On January 26 2018 06:43 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 06:36 Gorsameth wrote:On January 26 2018 06:32 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On January 26 2018 06:16 Gorsameth wrote:On January 26 2018 05:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On January 26 2018 04:54 GreenHorizons wrote:There's even more to the Drug Wars: Heroin story when you look at Afghanistan and it's Heroin production before and after we invaded. Also the strange coincidence that while Afghanistan provides most of the worlds Heroin virtually none of it seems to come here according to the DEA. Of course there's an alternative explanation that goes something like the CIA is trafficking drugs again and this time it's Heroin out of Afghanistan. Then the DEA also conveniently only arrest/seize their competition from Mexico/South America (Columbia). Naturally sometimes this causes mix ups with their street dealers. Officers from the 12th precinct, who were "pretending" to sell drugs in an attempt to arrest drug users, were approached by two officers from the 11th precinct, who treated them as they would any other “drug dealers” and attempted to arrest them. The city’s police chief called the move a “very embarrassing situation.” Source Another fact free assertion with no evidence. This theory makes no sense. What exactly do the CIA get out of running this supposed program, besides the eventual uncovering of the operation, resulting in severe damage to the agency? Where does the money go? Why would the CIA not simply get its budget by asking Congress for money, like it does every single year as part of the normal appropriations process? You seem to have uncritically bought Gary Webb's conspiracy theories about the CIA selling drugs to Americans to fund their operations. An article about 2 undercover Detroit cops get busted by other Detroit cops has precisely nothing to do with Afghanistan or the CIA. I assume the CIA has to explain where they spend the money from Congress to the Intelligence committee? The use of a drug money operation is to get money that you don't have to declare. Right, my question is, assuming what you are saying is true, why does the CIA want this money so badly they will violate literally every rule in place about CIA operations to get it? What could possibly be so important? Operations and assets that they don't want Congress to know about obviously. Which can be exposed by a bunch of reporters figuring it out and writing a story about it? I get that it seems like it would work, but it would also be super easy to figure out. Also, how do they use this drug money? Is there a debt card or something? Do they just add it into the budget each year? How do they move it around?
I mean obviously it's a dramatic interpretation but I feel like the Punisher series gives you a theatrical version of how this stuff works. It's such a longstanding story told by veterans (the "what am II actually fighting for?" question), media, and history alike, it's a bit strange to me people still presume the CIA and US MIC are altruistic organizations.
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Yeah, not like anything happened between 2001-2017 that could possibly lead to rapid changes in Afghanistan's drug trade without the Man causing it all.
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I'm surprised given everything that has happened in the last 70 years regarding US intelligence agencies that anyone is willing to dismiss any theory, especially one relating to:
Drugs
The CIA
Morally egregious shit that sounds unbelievable
I feel like if GH posted here 8 years ago that the US government was actively surveiling the entire worlds communications in every form, including US citizens, a good number of people would have told him to take the tinfoil hat off
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