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On December 14 2017 10:44 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 10:30 ShakeN_blake wrote:On December 14 2017 10:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:On December 14 2017 10:13 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 10:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 09:58 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 09:53 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 09:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
You might want to try this yourself. I was objecting to the notion that Rome and Greece weren't/aren't central to concepts of western culture and that you were spreading long deaded propaganda about Egypt. I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one who is following the argument -- and really I should say arguments given how many different points are being thrown at me. And where did I say that Rome and Greece weren't/aren't central concepts of Western culture? There's a very big difference between acknowledging their roles in the formation of Western culture and arguing that they're the pinnacles of Western culture. You need to pay attention to the words that are being used. They matter. Fair enough, I thought you imagined Greece and Rome as the paragon of western culture in their respective times. Who are your better examples? Does this mean you knew slaves didn't build the Pyramids or that's something you just learned today? Sure, I agree that Rome and Greece were the paragons of Western culture in their respective times, but there is a big difference between acknowledging them as such and acknowledging them as being the paragon of Western culture for all times. I really don't know who built the Pyramids. All I know is that Egypt was a slave-oriented society. Well then that's a simple miscommunication on the first part. As to the Pyramids and Egypt, no. Egypt has an incredibly long history, when are you suggesting you "know that Egypt was a slave-oriented society"? I'm presuming that the TheTenthDoc was referring to ancient Egypt. I mean, I was referring to Egypt as a pre-colonial African nation with a suite of large-scale civilization accomplishments. And a better place to live than a lot of the world at the time (or pretty much anywhere else). I didn't realize you were talking about a specific time window when Africa was worse off than the rest of the world as an excuse to say Western civilization is the bestest, silly me. Should have expected it by now. So you wouldn't have any issue living in say, South Africa, where White farmers are being hunted like cattle thanks to Jacob Zuma and his communist cohorts? Within five years there will either be a mass exodus of Whites from that place or civil war. This will be a litmus test for what Whites have to look forward to world-wide once they inevitably become minorities in their homelands, thanks to forced demographic replacement. That's what happens when your media oulets, academic institutions, and social apparatus in general promotes identity politics for everyone except Whites. The only question is, how will Leftists preserve their narrative when in this case, Whites are clearly the victims of racism on a mass scale? I reckon they will ignore it entirely. Right, because the situation in South Africa is because blacks just inherently hate whites and will hunt them down if they ever gain power. And totally not because of centuries of abuse and exploitation.
How you fail to recognize anti-White hatred as the groundwork for these postmodernist revolutionaries when it's clear as fucking day confounds me. The fact that you don't even seem to have an issue with Jacob Zuma's ongoing purge is also revealing in and of itself. Compare the amount of rapes and murder that haven taken place post-Apartheid to when Whites held power in the late 20th century. If that doesn't convince you to abandon this ignorant world-view that Africa has only failed to thrive because of White Colonialism (and that it had a net-negative effect), nothing will.
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On December 14 2017 10:55 Uldridge wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 10:50 xDaunt wrote:
Actually, I think it can be argued that Japan had it worse than Africa. Sure, Japan escaped immediate occupation during the 19th and early 20th century, during which time it accumulated and employed Western knowledge to enrich and empower itself. But it was utterly destroyed during World War 2, and had to be rebuilt from scratch. Contrast that experience with Colonial Africa, where European nations built its African colonies up from pretty much nothing -- supplying infrastructure, legal institutions, and a developed economy -- and then turned over the keys to the Africans after World War 2, who then promptly squandered what they were given. I can't believe you're saying this. I. Just. Can't. Believe. It.
why is it hard to believe him saying it?
it seems very consistent with his prior posting record.
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On December 14 2017 10:50 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 10:46 Gorsameth wrote:On December 14 2017 10:43 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 10:32 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
I don't actually think I can express my opinions on the shit xdaunt has said in the last few pages ("gifted"... fucking hell) without breaking\ my laptop... but... wow.
I really wish there was a block feature, I like a fair portion of the discussion here, but when 3 pages disappear to arguing with a literal white supremacist my blood pressure doesn't do too well trying to sift through it. "Gifted" sounds right to me. Through the process of colonial imperialism, Africans were given immediate access to knowledge that took the Europeans centuries upon centuries to accumulate. Contrast what the Africans did with that knowledge to what the Japanese did with it during the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. Also, I'm going to be charitable and presume that you do in fact like facts. As such, I encourage you to check some of your premises regarding my arguments and what you think you know. I dont remember the West occupying Japan, enslaving them and dividing their island willy nilly between themselves. But then my Asian history is alittle spotty. Actually, I think it can be argued that Japan had it worse than Africa. Sure, Japan escaped immediate occupation during the 19th and early 20th century, during which time it accumulated and employed Western knowledge to enrich and empower itself. But it was utterly destroyed during World War 2, and had to be rebuilt from scratch. Contrast that experience with Colonial Africa, where European nations built its African colonies up from pretty much nothing -- supplying infrastructure, legal institutions, and a developed economy -- and then turned over the keys to the Africans after World War 2, who then promptly squandered what they were given.
Wow...
Somehow you keep surprising me with the utter insanity of your world view.
Rebuilding an infrastructure vs colonialism + apartheid.
fuck me.
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On December 14 2017 10:20 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 09:48 LegalLord wrote:The next sentence in the quoted dialogue? I guess I could add "bashing that candidate alone won't do it" to make it clearer... but I'm 50/50 on whether this is genuine confusion or deliberate obtuseness because in context it should be obvious what I mean. This is my read of the conversation: Position 1: Democrats are stupid for thinking that drawing attention to candidate badness will have a meaningful effect on voting. Position 2: Candidates need to offer change to meaningfully affect voting. Contrary Position A: Position 1 is incorrect. If attention was not drawn to Moore's badness, Moore would have won the election [note - this does not contradict Position 2]. Position 3: Neither Position 1 or Position 2 said candidate badness should be ignored. Position 4: Drawing attention to candidate badness is not sufficient. My position: Positions 1 and 4 are inconsistent. You offered to change position 1 to make it consistent with position 4 which is fine, but you are claiming context made it obvious even though two separate people took issue with position 1 as it was written.
I can definitely see how you would see it that way, but I stand by that you seeing a contradiction is a petty semantic squabble rather than a contradiction.
Position 1 as I meant it, and as it should have come off as, is “it contributes as one of the factors, but there are plenty of bad Republicans and thinking that bashing them is going to win seats is idiotic.” That message is in there. Position 2 is a follow-on to that. The rest provides a little clarification.
As for others seeing it a different way: you might have a point except those “two separate people” tend to be among the most reductionist posters around and would be the first to assume the least reasonable interpretation of any given post.
Either you should be able to figure it out, or know to ask for clarification.
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Ah, the classic response from the TL left: “xDaunt is wrong, but we can’t be bothered to argue why.” Way to represent yourselves.
Also, be careful before you respond. Some of you are already making a mistake.
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On December 14 2017 10:57 ShakeN_blake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 10:44 Gorsameth wrote:On December 14 2017 10:30 ShakeN_blake wrote:On December 14 2017 10:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:On December 14 2017 10:13 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 10:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 09:58 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 09:53 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 09:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
You might want to try this yourself. I was objecting to the notion that Rome and Greece weren't/aren't central to concepts of western culture and that you were spreading long deaded propaganda about Egypt. I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one who is following the argument -- and really I should say arguments given how many different points are being thrown at me. And where did I say that Rome and Greece weren't/aren't central concepts of Western culture? There's a very big difference between acknowledging their roles in the formation of Western culture and arguing that they're the pinnacles of Western culture. You need to pay attention to the words that are being used. They matter. Fair enough, I thought you imagined Greece and Rome as the paragon of western culture in their respective times. Who are your better examples? Does this mean you knew slaves didn't build the Pyramids or that's something you just learned today? Sure, I agree that Rome and Greece were the paragons of Western culture in their respective times, but there is a big difference between acknowledging them as such and acknowledging them as being the paragon of Western culture for all times. I really don't know who built the Pyramids. All I know is that Egypt was a slave-oriented society. Well then that's a simple miscommunication on the first part. As to the Pyramids and Egypt, no. Egypt has an incredibly long history, when are you suggesting you "know that Egypt was a slave-oriented society"? I'm presuming that the TheTenthDoc was referring to ancient Egypt. I mean, I was referring to Egypt as a pre-colonial African nation with a suite of large-scale civilization accomplishments. And a better place to live than a lot of the world at the time (or pretty much anywhere else). I didn't realize you were talking about a specific time window when Africa was worse off than the rest of the world as an excuse to say Western civilization is the bestest, silly me. Should have expected it by now. So you wouldn't have any issue living in say, South Africa, where White farmers are being hunted like cattle thanks to Jacob Zuma and his communist cohorts? Within five years there will either be a mass exodus of Whites from that place or civil war. This will be a litmus test for what Whites have to look forward to world-wide once they inevitably become minorities in their homelands, thanks to forced demographic replacement. That's what happens when your media oulets, academic institutions, and social apparatus in general promotes identity politics for everyone except Whites. The only question is, how will Leftists preserve their narrative when in this case, Whites are clearly the victims of racism on a mass scale? I reckon they will ignore it entirely. Right, because the situation in South Africa is because blacks just inherently hate whites and will hunt them down if they ever gain power. And totally not because of centuries of abuse and exploitation. How you fail to recognize anti-White hatred as the groundwork for these postmodernist revolutionaries when it's clear as fucking day confounds me. The fact that you don't even seem to have an issue with Jacob Zuma's ongoing purge is also revealing in and of itself. Compare the amount of rapes and murder that haven taken place post-Apartheid to when Whites held power in the late 20th century. If that doesn't convince you to abandon this ignorant world-view that Africa has only failed to thrive because of White Colonialism (and that it had a net-negative effect), nothing will.
Where do I say I don't have an issue with them? I can have issue with them and understand where its coming from.
Yeah anti-white hate forms a base for it, maybe because white men fucked them up for a few centuries...
If you beat a child constantly and treat him like shit he will most likely grow up to beat people and treat everyone else as shit. Plenty of studies to back it up, and people tend to blame the parent for it a lot.
Funny how countries turn out to follow the same principle.
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On December 14 2017 10:51 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 10:30 ShakeN_blake wrote:On December 14 2017 10:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:On December 14 2017 10:13 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 10:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 09:58 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 09:53 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 09:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
You might want to try this yourself. I was objecting to the notion that Rome and Greece weren't/aren't central to concepts of western culture and that you were spreading long deaded propaganda about Egypt. I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one who is following the argument -- and really I should say arguments given how many different points are being thrown at me. And where did I say that Rome and Greece weren't/aren't central concepts of Western culture? There's a very big difference between acknowledging their roles in the formation of Western culture and arguing that they're the pinnacles of Western culture. You need to pay attention to the words that are being used. They matter. Fair enough, I thought you imagined Greece and Rome as the paragon of western culture in their respective times. Who are your better examples? Does this mean you knew slaves didn't build the Pyramids or that's something you just learned today? Sure, I agree that Rome and Greece were the paragons of Western culture in their respective times, but there is a big difference between acknowledging them as such and acknowledging them as being the paragon of Western culture for all times. I really don't know who built the Pyramids. All I know is that Egypt was a slave-oriented society. Well then that's a simple miscommunication on the first part. As to the Pyramids and Egypt, no. Egypt has an incredibly long history, when are you suggesting you "know that Egypt was a slave-oriented society"? I'm presuming that the TheTenthDoc was referring to ancient Egypt. I mean, I was referring to Egypt as a pre-colonial African nation with a suite of large-scale civilization accomplishments. And a better place to live than a lot of the world at the time (or pretty much anywhere else). I didn't realize you were talking about a specific time window when Africa was worse off than the rest of the world as an excuse to say Western civilization is the bestest, silly me. Should have expected it by now. So you wouldn't have any issue living in say, South Africa, where White farmers are being hunted like cattle thanks to Jacob Zuma and his communist cohorts? Within five years there will either be a mass exodus of Whites from that place or civil war. This will be a litmus test for what Whites have to look forward to world-wide once they inevitably become minorities in their homelands, thanks to forced demographic replacement. That's what happens when your media oulets, academic institutions, and social apparatus in general promotes identity politics for everyone except Whites. The only question is, how will Leftists preserve their narrative when in this case, Whites are clearly the victims of racism on a mass scale? I reckon they will ignore it entirely. Mother fucker, do you not know what Apartheid was? Do you understand how hard white people fucked South Africa? Not eve lay long ago.
Yes I am aware of Apartheid, SA was still a safer country then compared to now. You too don't even seem to be phased by the grim future awaiting Whites over there. It's all just karma for the sins of their fathers in your perverted world-view.
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On December 14 2017 11:02 xDaunt wrote:
Ah, the classic response from the TL left: “xDaunt is wrong, but we can’t be bothered to argue why.” Way to represent yourselves.
Because colonialism apologia is ridiculous. Every country subject to colonialism was wrecked by it and the institutional damage done takes decades and decades to recover from. That's why Germany and Japan were up and going again after two decades, their political autonomy and institutions were not destroyed.
And for god's sake stop calling everybody who disagrees with you 'the left'. There's barely any left wingers on this website, and Gorsameth isn't one of them
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No, I've seen some borderline shit, but I hadn't seen him post such blatant disregard for history, disregarding how nations did their bidding then and then somehow it gets spun to: lol, they had all the opportunities, but failed to grab them.
Also: who cares if we destroy everything and exploit all of the people and extract all their resources, because we replaced it with (to them) foreign infrastructure and bureaucracy! All they need to do is understand it!!!!! It's an all in one, ready to go package!
Why did those bloody Africans squander their golden opportunities, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
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On December 14 2017 11:03 ShakeN_blake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 10:51 Plansix wrote:On December 14 2017 10:30 ShakeN_blake wrote:On December 14 2017 10:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:On December 14 2017 10:13 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 10:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 09:58 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 09:53 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 09:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
You might want to try this yourself. I was objecting to the notion that Rome and Greece weren't/aren't central to concepts of western culture and that you were spreading long deaded propaganda about Egypt. I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one who is following the argument -- and really I should say arguments given how many different points are being thrown at me. And where did I say that Rome and Greece weren't/aren't central concepts of Western culture? There's a very big difference between acknowledging their roles in the formation of Western culture and arguing that they're the pinnacles of Western culture. You need to pay attention to the words that are being used. They matter. Fair enough, I thought you imagined Greece and Rome as the paragon of western culture in their respective times. Who are your better examples? Does this mean you knew slaves didn't build the Pyramids or that's something you just learned today? Sure, I agree that Rome and Greece were the paragons of Western culture in their respective times, but there is a big difference between acknowledging them as such and acknowledging them as being the paragon of Western culture for all times. I really don't know who built the Pyramids. All I know is that Egypt was a slave-oriented society. Well then that's a simple miscommunication on the first part. As to the Pyramids and Egypt, no. Egypt has an incredibly long history, when are you suggesting you "know that Egypt was a slave-oriented society"? I'm presuming that the TheTenthDoc was referring to ancient Egypt. I mean, I was referring to Egypt as a pre-colonial African nation with a suite of large-scale civilization accomplishments. And a better place to live than a lot of the world at the time (or pretty much anywhere else). I didn't realize you were talking about a specific time window when Africa was worse off than the rest of the world as an excuse to say Western civilization is the bestest, silly me. Should have expected it by now. So you wouldn't have any issue living in say, South Africa, where White farmers are being hunted like cattle thanks to Jacob Zuma and his communist cohorts? Within five years there will either be a mass exodus of Whites from that place or civil war. This will be a litmus test for what Whites have to look forward to world-wide once they inevitably become minorities in their homelands, thanks to forced demographic replacement. That's what happens when your media oulets, academic institutions, and social apparatus in general promotes identity politics for everyone except Whites. The only question is, how will Leftists preserve their narrative when in this case, Whites are clearly the victims of racism on a mass scale? I reckon they will ignore it entirely. Mother fucker, do you not know what Apartheid was? Do you understand how hard white people fucked South Africa? Not eve lay long ago. Yes I am aware of Apartheid, SA was still a safer country then compared to now. You too don't even seem to be fazed by the grim future awaiting Whites over there. It's all just karma for the sins of their fathers in your perverted world-view.
They built a nation based on state institutionalized racism and keep blacks under their boots for generations. I can't really get to upset about the tides turning on them. It's sad, but not that sad.
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On December 14 2017 11:06 Uldridge wrote:
No, I've seen some borderline shit, but I hadn't seen him post such blatant disregard for history, disregarding how nations did their bidding then and then somehow it gets spun to: lol, they had all the opportunities, but failed to grab them.
guess we just remember it differently then. since it seems quite typical to me, maybe a touch more obvious than normal, but not by that much.
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On December 14 2017 11:06 Uldridge wrote:
No, I've seen some borderline shit, but I hadn't seen him post such blatant disregard for history, disregarding how nations did their bidding then and then somehow it gets spun to: lol, they had all the opportunities, but failed to grab them.
Xdaunt is our budding upper middle class white nationalist, slowly convincing himself of this alternative history. He was promoting the 14 words a couple months ago. The funny part is that he is poorly read about white nationalism, he didn't even know he regurgitated white nationalist propaganda.
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Well, I mostly miss a good amount of pages and I haven't always tracked this thread very closely. He seems more veiled in vague writing most of the time. This is just... wow, just a complete different view of history.
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On December 14 2017 11:02 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 10:57 ShakeN_blake wrote:On December 14 2017 10:44 Gorsameth wrote:On December 14 2017 10:30 ShakeN_blake wrote:On December 14 2017 10:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:On December 14 2017 10:13 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 10:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 10:05 xDaunt wrote:On December 14 2017 09:58 GreenHorizons wrote:On December 14 2017 09:53 xDaunt wrote:
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I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one who is following the argument -- and really I should say arguments given how many different points are being thrown at me.
And where did I say that Rome and Greece weren't/aren't central concepts of Western culture? There's a very big difference between acknowledging their roles in the formation of Western culture and arguing that they're the pinnacles of Western culture. You need to pay attention to the words that are being used. They matter. Fair enough, I thought you imagined Greece and Rome as the paragon of western culture in their respective times. Who are your better examples? Does this mean you knew slaves didn't build the Pyramids or that's something you just learned today? Sure, I agree that Rome and Greece were the paragons of Western culture in their respective times, but there is a big difference between acknowledging them as such and acknowledging them as being the paragon of Western culture for all times. I really don't know who built the Pyramids. All I know is that Egypt was a slave-oriented society. Well then that's a simple miscommunication on the first part. As to the Pyramids and Egypt, no. Egypt has an incredibly long history, when are you suggesting you "know that Egypt was a slave-oriented society"? I'm presuming that the TheTenthDoc was referring to ancient Egypt. I mean, I was referring to Egypt as a pre-colonial African nation with a suite of large-scale civilization accomplishments. And a better place to live than a lot of the world at the time (or pretty much anywhere else). I didn't realize you were talking about a specific time window when Africa was worse off than the rest of the world as an excuse to say Western civilization is the bestest, silly me. Should have expected it by now. So you wouldn't have any issue living in say, South Africa, where White farmers are being hunted like cattle thanks to Jacob Zuma and his communist cohorts? Within five years there will either be a mass exodus of Whites from that place or civil war. This will be a litmus test for what Whites have to look forward to world-wide once they inevitably become minorities in their homelands, thanks to forced demographic replacement. That's what happens when your media oulets, academic institutions, and social apparatus in general promotes identity politics for everyone except Whites. The only question is, how will Leftists preserve their narrative when in this case, Whites are clearly the victims of racism on a mass scale? I reckon they will ignore it entirely. Right, because the situation in South Africa is because blacks just inherently hate whites and will hunt them down if they ever gain power. And totally not because of centuries of abuse and exploitation. How you fail to recognize anti-White hatred as the groundwork for these postmodernist revolutionaries when it's clear as fucking day confounds me. The fact that you don't even seem to have an issue with Jacob Zuma's ongoing purge is also revealing in and of itself. Compare the amount of rapes and murder that haven taken place post-Apartheid to when Whites held power in the late 20th century. If that doesn't convince you to abandon this ignorant world-view that Africa has only failed to thrive because of White Colonialism (and that it had a net-negative effect), nothing will. Where do I say I don't have an issue with them? I can have issue with them and understand where its coming from. Yeah anti-white hate forms a base for it, maybe because white men fucked them up for a few centuries... If you beat a child constantly and treat him like shit he will most likely grow up to beat people and treat everyone else as shit. Plenty of studies to back it up, and people tend to blame the parent for it a lot. Funny how countries turn out to follow the same principle.
White's have indisputably created the most altruistic empires in world history. By no means were they perfect, nor are they perfect today, but what we've achieved stands above the standards of empathy seen in other civilizations such as the Middle-East, where slavery is still legal and tribalism still dominates.
It is the most profound irony that by surrendering our lands to mass 3rd world immigration, even brain-washing ourselves into believing we deserve to be replaced, Whites will not be offered the same altruism in return upon becoming minorities. See Sweden as the most extreme example of this phenomenon taking place.
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You know slavery practiced in america was actually very different from the other types of slavery for most of the history of the world. Slavery is bad, but chattel slavery is pretty much a uniquely awful american idea. (Chattel slavery is the idea that not only is the person your property, but so are their children)
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On December 14 2017 11:06 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 11:02 xDaunt wrote:
Ah, the classic response from the TL left: “xDaunt is wrong, but we can’t be bothered to argue why.” Way to represent yourselves. Because colonialism apologia is ridiculous. Every country subject to colonialism was wrecked by it and the institutional damage done takes decades and decades to recover from. That's why Germany and Japan were up and going again after two decades, their political autonomy and institutions were not destroyed. And for god's sake stop calling everybody who disagrees with you 'the left'. There's barely any left wingers on this website, and Gorsameth isn't one of them
The whole point is to post something ridiculous then ridicule people for not walking him through the apparent huge gaps in his understanding of history.
Then when I tried with something simple like Egypt, it gets lost in the other trash he was saying. Not that I didn't see it coming from a mile away, but as has been demonstrated despite that particular issue being buried, others are still discovering just how deep this rabbit hole in xDaunt's mind (and others) goes.
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I just wanted to drop in and say CONGRATS to Alabama.
Nice job <3
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Asia (China mostly, but also others) also "gifted" Europe with gunpowder, medicine, science and a bunch of other things. It just so happened that for a bunch of complicated historical reasons imperial China didn't bother conquering and enslaving the world, with the excepting of the Yuan dynasty. (White people feel free to say thanks any time).
The Caliphate also gifted the Europeans, who were too busy trying to kill each other, with a bajillion things as well.
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On December 14 2017 11:15 ShakeN_blake wrote:
White's have indisputably created the most altruistic empires in world history. By no means were they perfect, nor are they perfect today, but what we've achieved stands above the standards of empathy seen in other civilizations such as the Middle-East, where slavery is still legal and tribalism still dominates.
It is the most profound irony that by surrendering our lands to mass 3rd world immigration, even brain-washing ourselves into believing we deserve to be replaced, Whites will not be offered the same altruism in return upon becoming minorities. See Sweden as the most extreme example of this phenomenon taking place.
You know Europe's had waves of immigration before, right? The Middle Easterners living here are quite mellow. They're kind of a hybrid people, having Western and Middle-Eastern values. We mostly leave each other alone though. I'd say it's where we failed the most: the inability to fix the problem of segregation. But integration seems like an ideal now, because people will always wander towards their ingroups.
Anyway, using the word "surrendering" and "replacing" shows how badly affected you are by right wing propaganda. What's the % of non-native people in European countries you think? And the problem you present is WAY more complex than you think. For starters, we need to deal with a starkly rising aging population, while also having to deal with middle class people not wanting to do the basic jobs (who's gonna wash the fucking dishes, or clean up your shit when every privileged child wants to go to college?). The fact is, we NEED influx, because we won't be able to sustain. The mass immigration was a disaster we couldn't foresee and handled badly, but let me ask you this: do you honestly believe that right wing people would've solved the issue better? Did they have the answers?
We let them in because they needed us. Most of them will be thankful in the future. Only a handful will try to fuck us up. And while they'll cut into us, they won't cut deep enough to hit something vital.
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