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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 31 2017 20:18 GMT
#172281
Reversing DACA would be stupidity of the same magnitude as repealing the ACA. It just impacts way too many people.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-31 20:23:39
August 31 2017 20:23 GMT
#172282
On September 01 2017 05:14 Plansix wrote:
I am seeing people saying Fox may have jumped the gun on that one, that DACA is still under review.

Thats what was said at the press conference. I have no doubt that Trump wants to though. Not really sure if it is feasible though.


Homeland Security adviser Tom Bossert said no decision has been made yet and they’re “still reviewing” — and Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders confirmed that no decision has been made.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 31 2017 20:25 GMT
#172283
The merits of the policy don’t matter to Trump. Obama wrote it, so it must be removed. We long ago moved passed if something was good for America or not. It all about Trump and his base. And deporting the children of illegal immigrants is a crowd pleaser.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 31 2017 20:29 GMT
#172284
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
August 31 2017 20:50 GMT
#172285
On September 01 2017 05:25 Plansix wrote:
The merits of the policy don’t matter to Trump. Obama wrote it, so it must be removed. We long ago moved passed if something was good for America or not. It all about Trump and his base. And deporting the children of illegal immigrants is a crowd pleaser.


Do you think we could get word to Trump that the alt right's favourite thing is punching babies in the head on tv?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
August 31 2017 20:53 GMT
#172286
On September 01 2017 05:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/TMJ4Steve/status/903351964104314881

If he nominated him for the DHS could he even get a security clearance?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-31 20:55:31
August 31 2017 20:54 GMT
#172287
On September 01 2017 05:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 05:25 Plansix wrote:
The merits of the policy don’t matter to Trump. Obama wrote it, so it must be removed. We long ago moved passed if something was good for America or not. It all about Trump and his base. And deporting the children of illegal immigrants is a crowd pleaser.


Do you think we could get word to Trump that the alt right's favourite thing is punching babies in the head on tv?

Only Alex Jones can reach him.

On September 01 2017 05:53 Saryph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 05:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/TMJ4Steve/status/903351964104314881

If he nominated him for the DHS could he even get a security clearance?

He withdrew himself from the nomination process. I kinda doubt he could get clearance.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 31 2017 21:23 GMT
#172288


I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 31 2017 21:54 GMT
#172289
Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.) said Thursday he'll attempt to force a vote on a bill that would extend protections for undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as minors.

When he returns to Washington next week, Coffman said he'll file what's known as a "discharge petition" to force action on his proposal, known as the BRIDGE Act. If he can convince a majority of the House — 218 members — to join him, the House will be required to take up the measure later in September.

Coffman's rarely used gambit comes amid reports that President Donald Trump may roll back an Obama-era program meant to protect undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as minors. The program, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, has shielded about 800,000 immigrants from deportation and provided work permits.

"#DACA participants grew up here, went to school here, and should be allowed to stay here. The time has come to take action," Coffman tweeted.

The bill already has 12 Republican cosponsors in the House, in addition to Coffman. In the Senate, a companion measure was introduced by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), and it has support from GOP Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.)

The measure extends protection — similar to that afforded under DACA — to those born after June 15, 1981, were brought to the United States before their 16th birthday and have lived in the United States since June 15, 2007. Applicants for protection must also be enrolled in school, have graduated from high school or have served honorably in the military. And those convicted of a felony or certain misdemeanors would be barred from the program.

Coffman's call is likely to draw support from Democrats, as well as other Republicans who have previously backed measures to protect those undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as minors. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump called for eliminating the program, but he backed off shortly after winning the election. This week, his administration indicated he was reviewing the program and hadn't yet decided what to do.

Trump said in February that he intended to deal with DACA enrollees "with heart."

Coffman is also one of the more vulnerable Republicans in the House. Democrat Hillary Clinton won his district by a 50-41 margin.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 31 2017 22:09 GMT
#172290
On September 01 2017 06:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.) said Thursday he'll attempt to force a vote on a bill that would extend protections for undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as minors.

When he returns to Washington next week, Coffman said he'll file what's known as a "discharge petition" to force action on his proposal, known as the BRIDGE Act. If he can convince a majority of the House — 218 members — to join him, the House will be required to take up the measure later in September.

Coffman's rarely used gambit comes amid reports that President Donald Trump may roll back an Obama-era program meant to protect undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as minors. The program, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, has shielded about 800,000 immigrants from deportation and provided work permits.

"#DACA participants grew up here, went to school here, and should be allowed to stay here. The time has come to take action," Coffman tweeted.

The bill already has 12 Republican cosponsors in the House, in addition to Coffman. In the Senate, a companion measure was introduced by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), and it has support from GOP Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.)

The measure extends protection — similar to that afforded under DACA — to those born after June 15, 1981, were brought to the United States before their 16th birthday and have lived in the United States since June 15, 2007. Applicants for protection must also be enrolled in school, have graduated from high school or have served honorably in the military. And those convicted of a felony or certain misdemeanors would be barred from the program.

Coffman's call is likely to draw support from Democrats, as well as other Republicans who have previously backed measures to protect those undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as minors. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump called for eliminating the program, but he backed off shortly after winning the election. This week, his administration indicated he was reviewing the program and hadn't yet decided what to do.

Trump said in February that he intended to deal with DACA enrollees "with heart."

Coffman is also one of the more vulnerable Republicans in the House. Democrat Hillary Clinton won his district by a 50-41 margin.


Source

It's about fucking time representatives got on board with changing immigration law by legislative action and not executive fiat. Their constituencies, hell let's just suppose it's wildly popular, will see which representatives vote for it and can vote out the bums that don't.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 31 2017 22:18 GMT
#172291
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 31 2017 22:52 GMT
#172292


Lawnewz article on it :
lawnewz.com
President Donald Trump‘s administration has agreed to settle the first lawsuit filed against the so-called “Muslim ban,” according to a statement issued by the ACLU.

“The settlement ensures that all travelers who were barred from the country on the basis of the ban and have not since returned to the United States are informed of their right to reapply for a visa and provided with a list of free legal services organizations that can help them do so,” the statement said.

The first lawsuit filed was Darweesh v. Trump, and was filed on January 28, 2017 shorty after the ban went into effect. As part of the settlement, the government will reportedly provide a list of pro bono immigration attorneys who can aid foreigners applying for visas, and will provide notice in three different languages. The DOJ must also coordinate and aid in processing new applications for those wanting to come back to the United States in the next three months.

“It means a lot to me to be in America,” said Hameed Darweesh, who served as the lead plaintiff in the case. “The United States is a great country because of its people. I’m glad that the lawsuit is over. Me and my family are safe; my kids go to school; we can now live a normal life. I suffered back home, but I have my rights now. I’m a human.

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 31 2017 23:16 GMT
#172293
Heads up...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-31 23:21:21
August 31 2017 23:17 GMT
#172294


It article is depressingly honest. The party of Nixon.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42646 Posts
August 31 2017 23:23 GMT
#172295
On September 01 2017 07:09 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 06:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.) said Thursday he'll attempt to force a vote on a bill that would extend protections for undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as minors.

When he returns to Washington next week, Coffman said he'll file what's known as a "discharge petition" to force action on his proposal, known as the BRIDGE Act. If he can convince a majority of the House — 218 members — to join him, the House will be required to take up the measure later in September.

Coffman's rarely used gambit comes amid reports that President Donald Trump may roll back an Obama-era program meant to protect undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as minors. The program, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, has shielded about 800,000 immigrants from deportation and provided work permits.

"#DACA participants grew up here, went to school here, and should be allowed to stay here. The time has come to take action," Coffman tweeted.

The bill already has 12 Republican cosponsors in the House, in addition to Coffman. In the Senate, a companion measure was introduced by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), and it has support from GOP Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.)

The measure extends protection — similar to that afforded under DACA — to those born after June 15, 1981, were brought to the United States before their 16th birthday and have lived in the United States since June 15, 2007. Applicants for protection must also be enrolled in school, have graduated from high school or have served honorably in the military. And those convicted of a felony or certain misdemeanors would be barred from the program.

Coffman's call is likely to draw support from Democrats, as well as other Republicans who have previously backed measures to protect those undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as minors. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump called for eliminating the program, but he backed off shortly after winning the election. This week, his administration indicated he was reviewing the program and hadn't yet decided what to do.

Trump said in February that he intended to deal with DACA enrollees "with heart."

Coffman is also one of the more vulnerable Republicans in the House. Democrat Hillary Clinton won his district by a 50-41 margin.


Source

It's about fucking time representatives got on board with changing immigration law by legislative action and not executive fiat. Their constituencies, hell let's just suppose it's wildly popular, will see which representatives vote for it and can vote out the bums that don't.

It's a little optimistic to think that people will vote out their congressman just because congress makes laws they don't like. After all, it's their congressman. It's everyone else's they don't like.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 31 2017 23:28 GMT
#172296


We spoke to soon, he was going to work at the White House, like with Miller or some other nightmare people.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 31 2017 23:33 GMT
#172297
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
August 31 2017 23:35 GMT
#172298
On September 01 2017 08:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Heads up...

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/903357153582481410

Two in a row major hurricane? This definitely bodes poorly.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
August 31 2017 23:57 GMT
#172299
This hurricane season is no joke. No one can let their guard down in 2017 it seems.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2629 Posts
September 01 2017 00:16 GMT
#172300
The knock-on effects of Harvey are hitting Dallas. Can't buy gas anywhere in the city right now. Apparently gas is getting shipped down from Tulsa, which has got the second largest refinery in the world, but I don't know if it will be here by tomorrow.
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