US Politics Mega-thread - Page 7780

On June 07 2017 08:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:


This is really part of why the obstruction stuff is a big deal.

I honestly don't think Trump colluded with the Russians. He's too dumb. He might have been manipulated, but that's not really a crime. What is a crime is attempts to impede the investigation into his cronies because the mainstream media is making him feel bad about himself.

On June 07 2017 08:06 IgnE wrote:


please explain to me how you are less complicit than a white person born in this country in 1997, 20 years? your complicity, if most native-born white americans can be said to be complicit, is substantially the same: you take advantage of white supremacism without attempting to dismantle it.

maybe you disagree that most native born whites are complicit. or maybe you think most native born whites are considerably more racist than you. but the number of years youve been here seems to have little relevance to your "complicity"

On June 07 2017 08:38 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/abc/status/872218353393336320

Well then. So does all this end with Trump and Bannon being the last two in the West Wing? Also, is Pence just hiding in a fall out shelter?

On June 07 2017 08:38 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/abc/status/872218353393336320

Well then. So does all this end with Trump and Bannon being the last two in the West Wing? Also, is Pence just hiding in a fall out shelter?

On June 07 2017 08:43 zlefin wrote:

hiding is clearly the best strategy; as it has been for a year or so now. so it seems likely.

On June 07 2017 08:46 Mohdoo wrote:


I get the feeling Trump is asking Sessions to do things that would basically come down to falling on the sword.

The nation’s top intelligence official told associates in March that President Trump asked him if he could intervene with then-FBI Director James B. Comey to get the bureau to back off its focus on former national security adviser Michael Flynn in its Russia probe, according to officials.

On March 22, less than a week after being confirmed by the Senate, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats attended a briefing at the White House together with officials from several government agencies. As the briefing was wrapping up, Trump asked everyone to leave the room except for Coats and CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

The president then started complaining about the FBI investigation and Comey’s handling of it, said officials familiar with the account Coats gave to associates. Two days earlier, Comey had confirmed in a congressional hearing that the bureau was probing whether Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia during the 2016 race.

After the encounter, Coats discussed the conversation with other officials and decided that intervening with Comey as Trump had suggested would be inappropriate, according to officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive internal matters.

Comey told Sessions : Don't Leave Me Alone With Trump
[...]
Mr. Comey believed Mr. Sessions should protect the F.B.I. from White House influence, the officials said, and pulled him aside after a meeting in February to tell him that private interactions between the F.B.I. director and the president were inappropriate. But Mr. Sessions could not guarantee that the president would not try to talk to Mr. Comey alone again, the officials said.

Mr. Comey did not reveal, however, what had so unnerved him about his Oval Office meeting with the president: Mr. Trump’s request that the F.B.I. director end the investigation into the former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, who had just been fired. By the time Mr. Trump fired Mr. Comey last month, Mr. Comey had disclosed the meeting to a few of his closest advisers but nobody at the Justice Department, according to the officials, who did not want to be identified discussing Mr. Comey’s interactions with Mr. Trump and Mr. Sessions.
[...]

On June 07 2017 09:33 Nevuk wrote:


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/us/politics/comey-sessions-trump.html?_r=1

(only a portion quoted because it's a royal PITA to copy from NYT)

WASHINGTON — The day after President Trump asked James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, to end an investigation into his former national security adviser, Mr. Comey confronted Attorney General Jeff Sessions and said he did not want to be left alone again with the president, according to current and former law enforcement officials.

On June 07 2017 09:10 LegalLord wrote:
At this point the luckiest Trump loyalist is probably Chris Christie. Thrown off the Trump train before it derailed, saving him the perils of going down with the train.