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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 07 2017 01:22 GMT
#155601
On June 07 2017 10:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Remember this?



Update:


You can see the "I have to answer this question and not commit perjury" gears turning. And then he the rip cord and pleads for a closed session.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 07 2017 01:25 GMT
#155602
What? Is this going to be a Jurassic Park type of Fence/Wall?

President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.

It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.

Trump has insisted that Mexico will pay for the wall’s construction — something Mexican officials have repeatedly denied — but has acknowledged that taxpayers may need to initially foot the bill before being repaid.

The president’s interest in a potential solar panel solution comes as he’s received intense criticism from world leaders for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
June 07 2017 01:46 GMT
#155603
On June 07 2017 10:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What? Is this going to be a Jurassic Park type of Fence/Wall?

Show nested quote +
President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.

It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.

Trump has insisted that Mexico will pay for the wall’s construction — something Mexican officials have repeatedly denied — but has acknowledged that taxpayers may need to initially foot the bill before being repaid.

The president’s interest in a potential solar panel solution comes as he’s received intense criticism from world leaders for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement.


Source


Last time I got a quote, it approximately costed 84000 USD to install Tesla solar panels on my home roof (approx 2200 sq ft). I cant even begin to imagine how much it would cost to fund Trump's plan.
Envy fan since NTH.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 07 2017 01:47 GMT
#155604
On June 07 2017 09:37 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 09:33 Nevuk wrote:

Comey told Sessions : Don't Leave Me Alone With Trump
[...]
Mr. Comey believed Mr. Sessions should protect the F.B.I. from White House influence, the officials said, and pulled him aside after a meeting in February to tell him that private interactions between the F.B.I. director and the president were inappropriate. But Mr. Sessions could not guarantee that the president would not try to talk to Mr. Comey alone again, the officials said.

Mr. Comey did not reveal, however, what had so unnerved him about his Oval Office meeting with the president: Mr. Trump’s request that the F.B.I. director end the investigation into the former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, who had just been fired. By the time Mr. Trump fired Mr. Comey last month, Mr. Comey had disclosed the meeting to a few of his closest advisers but nobody at the Justice Department, according to the officials, who did not want to be identified discussing Mr. Comey’s interactions with Mr. Trump and Mr. Sessions.
[...]


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/us/politics/comey-sessions-trump.html?_r=1

(only a portion quoted because it's a royal PITA to copy from NYT)

Show nested quote +
WASHINGTON — The day after President Trump asked James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, to end an investigation into his former national security adviser, Mr. Comey confronted Attorney General Jeff Sessions and said he did not want to be left alone again with the president, according to current and former law enforcement officials.



i'd laugh my ass off if former law enforcement official was jim comey

He's famous for the "sources close to Comey" (or "the former director" or "familiar with his thinking"). You search enough for those kinds of attributions and you'll find Comey likes to *wink* *wink* tell the press what he thinks and does nonattributively. In that sense, kind of like Trump back before his reality TV stardom.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 07 2017 01:47 GMT
#155605
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
June 07 2017 01:50 GMT
#155606
On June 07 2017 10:46 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 10:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What? Is this going to be a Jurassic Park type of Fence/Wall?

President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.

It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.

Trump has insisted that Mexico will pay for the wall’s construction — something Mexican officials have repeatedly denied — but has acknowledged that taxpayers may need to initially foot the bill before being repaid.

The president’s interest in a potential solar panel solution comes as he’s received intense criticism from world leaders for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement.


Source


Last time I got a quote, it approximately costed 84000 USD to install Tesla solar panels on my home roof (approx 2200 sq ft). I cant even begin to imagine how much it would cost to fund Trump's plan.

How much power were you using?! The point of them is to offset your own energy costs. You don't need to coat the entire roof.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
June 07 2017 01:59 GMT
#155607
On June 07 2017 10:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What? Is this going to be a Jurassic Park type of Fence/Wall?

Show nested quote +
President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.

It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.

Trump has insisted that Mexico will pay for the wall’s construction — something Mexican officials have repeatedly denied — but has acknowledged that taxpayers may need to initially foot the bill before being repaid.

The president’s interest in a potential solar panel solution comes as he’s received intense criticism from world leaders for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement.


Source

This is hilarious. And I can guarantee his base is saying something along the lines of, "If it keeps illegal immigration down, I'll pay my fair share until Mexico repays us. Trump will get them to pay for the wall."

Y'all got got. That's the end of the story.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
June 07 2017 02:00 GMT
#155608
Just compare this whole ongoing drama to the Obama administration. Was there anything during the whole eight years that's comparable to every single week of the Trump government?

People should read this again: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/09/opinion/i-miss-barack-obama.html
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
June 07 2017 02:01 GMT
#155609
On June 07 2017 10:50 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 10:46 Piledriver wrote:
On June 07 2017 10:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What? Is this going to be a Jurassic Park type of Fence/Wall?

President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.

It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.

Trump has insisted that Mexico will pay for the wall’s construction — something Mexican officials have repeatedly denied — but has acknowledged that taxpayers may need to initially foot the bill before being repaid.

The president’s interest in a potential solar panel solution comes as he’s received intense criticism from world leaders for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement.


Source


Last time I got a quote, it approximately costed 84000 USD to install Tesla solar panels on my home roof (approx 2200 sq ft). I cant even begin to imagine how much it would cost to fund Trump's plan.

How much power were you using?! The point of them is to offset your own energy costs. You don't need to coat the entire roof.


It was the Solar roof and not vanilla solar panels. So basically they strip out all of your roof tiles and replace them with solar tiles.
Envy fan since NTH.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 07 2017 02:01 GMT
#155610
On June 07 2017 11:00 Nyxisto wrote:
Just compare this whole ongoing drama to the Obama administration. Was there anything during the whole eight years that's comparable to every single week of the Trump government?

People should read this again: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/09/opinion/i-miss-barack-obama.html

What about the dijon mustard and tan suits? Or the terrorist fist bump and latte salute?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
June 07 2017 02:16 GMT
#155611
On June 07 2017 11:00 Nyxisto wrote:
Just compare this whole ongoing drama to the Obama administration. Was there anything during the whole eight years that's comparable to every single week of the Trump government?

People should read this again: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/09/opinion/i-miss-barack-obama.html


You must be forgetting that time Obama went golfing!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
June 07 2017 02:56 GMT
#155612
On June 07 2017 10:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What? Is this going to be a Jurassic Park type of Fence/Wall?

Show nested quote +
President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.

It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.

Trump has insisted that Mexico will pay for the wall’s construction — something Mexican officials have repeatedly denied — but has acknowledged that taxpayers may need to initially foot the bill before being repaid.

The president’s interest in a potential solar panel solution comes as he’s received intense criticism from world leaders for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement.


Source


It's the same brand of non-logic that made Trump think Democrats would be alright with firing Comey as long as they said the reason was mishandling emails. Liberals like solar energy, therefore they will vote for my wall if it has solar panels.
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
June 07 2017 03:08 GMT
#155613
On June 07 2017 11:56 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 10:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What? Is this going to be a Jurassic Park type of Fence/Wall?

President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.

It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.

Trump has insisted that Mexico will pay for the wall’s construction — something Mexican officials have repeatedly denied — but has acknowledged that taxpayers may need to initially foot the bill before being repaid.

The president’s interest in a potential solar panel solution comes as he’s received intense criticism from world leaders for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement.


Source


It's the same brand of non-logic that made Trump think Democrats would be alright with firing Comey as long as they said the reason was mishandling emails. Liberals like solar energy, therefore they will vote for my wall if it has solar panels.


Just like that time that Kushner said that firing Comey would be fine with Democrats since they would be hypocrites if they said it was a bad thing to fire him.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 07 2017 03:12 GMT
#155614
On June 07 2017 12:08 Wulfey_LA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 11:56 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On June 07 2017 10:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What? Is this going to be a Jurassic Park type of Fence/Wall?

President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.

It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.

Trump has insisted that Mexico will pay for the wall’s construction — something Mexican officials have repeatedly denied — but has acknowledged that taxpayers may need to initially foot the bill before being repaid.

The president’s interest in a potential solar panel solution comes as he’s received intense criticism from world leaders for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement.


Source


It's the same brand of non-logic that made Trump think Democrats would be alright with firing Comey as long as they said the reason was mishandling emails. Liberals like solar energy, therefore they will vote for my wall if it has solar panels.


Just like that time that Kushner said that firing Comey would be fine with Democrats since they would be hypocrites if they said it was a bad thing to fire him.

He's not wrong that there's hypocrisy there, but what a goddamn fail read to assume people wouldn't care.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
June 07 2017 03:17 GMT
#155615
On June 07 2017 12:12 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 12:08 Wulfey_LA wrote:
On June 07 2017 11:56 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On June 07 2017 10:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What? Is this going to be a Jurassic Park type of Fence/Wall?

President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.

It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.

He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.

Trump has insisted that Mexico will pay for the wall’s construction — something Mexican officials have repeatedly denied — but has acknowledged that taxpayers may need to initially foot the bill before being repaid.

The president’s interest in a potential solar panel solution comes as he’s received intense criticism from world leaders for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement.


Source


It's the same brand of non-logic that made Trump think Democrats would be alright with firing Comey as long as they said the reason was mishandling emails. Liberals like solar energy, therefore they will vote for my wall if it has solar panels.


Just like that time that Kushner said that firing Comey would be fine with Democrats since they would be hypocrites if they said it was a bad thing to fire him.

He's not wrong that there's hypocrisy there, but what a goddamn fail read to assume people wouldn't care.

That ignores all context. If Trump fired Comey for his mishandling of the investigation during the election then it would be hypocritical for people who had called for Obama to do so to complain. But Trump didn't do that. Trump did the opposite, declaring support for Comey's actions and then firing him for refusing to pledge loyalty. Democrats can simultaneously be opposed to mishandling the Clinton investigation during the election and also firing the FBI head for refusing to put personal loyalty to the President ahead of the integrity of his duty to the country. There's no hypocrisy in that.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 07 2017 03:43 GMT
#155616
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 07 2017 03:55 GMT
#155617




This is so fucking depressing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
June 07 2017 03:58 GMT
#155618
Kinda should be though. It's like thinking New York is the capital of the US.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 07 2017 04:02 GMT
#155619
But then we wouldn't have the masterpiece "The Room Where It Happens"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
June 07 2017 04:12 GMT
#155620
On June 07 2017 12:55 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/speakerryan/status/872225978940084224

https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/872292936792330245

This is so fucking depressing.


l m f a o

Soooo close to not embarrassing us, GOP. You came so close!
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