• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:54
CET 12:54
KST 20:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced2[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Which season is the best in ASL? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data analysis on 70 million replays sas.vorti stream
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1374 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 7751

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7749 7750 7751 7752 7753 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 03 2017 21:34 GMT
#155001
On June 04 2017 06:30 pmh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 09:47 LegalLord wrote:
I predict that in a few years, instead of gasoline, our cars will run on the power of hope. Sure is a lot of that stuff around, we could probably use it as a power source.



You are such a troll lol,sometimes I wonder why people react seriously to you. Maybe you know them irl,i don't know.
Anyway,while I do agree with quiet a few of your opinions and projections I think you are wrong when it comes to electric cars. Electricity is the future and it will in the end replace all fossil. But this might still take a very long time,a lot of money is invested in the fossil industry and the lobby and money also effects policys and other investments. Musk is a true pioneer for trying to go against the mainstream. For electric cars to take over and become 50%+ of all vehicles,i doubt we will see that in this century but it will happen eventually. Untill then the tesla cars are a good niche at the worst,and a lot more at the best. Lots of people want to "go green" and tesla is one of the few brands to do so. It has become a sort of status symbol,a way to show that you care about the environment and that you have an enlightened spirit. The valuation of tesla is real,the stocks are bought and sold for that valuation every day. You wont get such a high price just from people who think tesla is cool,this is not the dot com bubble. There must be some real perspective for growth and sustainability to sustain such a high price. That you or I don't see it doesn't mean that it is not there.

why do you conclude it being impossible to be a bubble? such things are found in many fields outside the dotcom area.
Of course it probably has more to do with potential, much as in the dotcom fields; it's very hard to tell who's going ot win decades down the line, but if you pick the right ones they can absolutely explode in value.

I think we might well see electrics take over by the end of the century; a lot really depends on how battery/energy storage tech goes. There's nothing that promising in the next 20-30 years or so; but in 60 years? quite possibly. It's really just the battery issue keeping electric cars down; too bad battery tech hasn't gone as well as some other tech paths.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1366 Posts
June 03 2017 21:35 GMT
#155002
Anyway,kudos to trump for pulling out of the paris agreement,it is something his supporters will appreciate. In the end the whole paris deal is symbolical,it holds not a single obligation or whatever. It basicly changes nothing,its a symbolical change though an important one I have to admit. Personally I think its to late to make a change already,seeing the growth in china and india. Like rusia and china and india they did sign the deal,but exactly what are they going to do to reduce their emissions? Noone knows I think.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 03 2017 21:38 GMT
#155003
On June 04 2017 06:34 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 06:30 pmh wrote:
On June 03 2017 09:47 LegalLord wrote:
I predict that in a few years, instead of gasoline, our cars will run on the power of hope. Sure is a lot of that stuff around, we could probably use it as a power source.



You are such a troll lol,sometimes I wonder why people react seriously to you. Maybe you know them irl,i don't know.
Anyway,while I do agree with quiet a few of your opinions and projections I think you are wrong when it comes to electric cars. Electricity is the future and it will in the end replace all fossil. But this might still take a very long time,a lot of money is invested in the fossil industry and the lobby and money also effects policys and other investments. Musk is a true pioneer for trying to go against the mainstream. For electric cars to take over and become 50%+ of all vehicles,i doubt we will see that in this century but it will happen eventually. Untill then the tesla cars are a good niche at the worst,and a lot more at the best. Lots of people want to "go green" and tesla is one of the few brands to do so. It has become a sort of status symbol,a way to show that you care about the environment and that you have an enlightened spirit. The valuation of tesla is real,the stocks are bought and sold for that valuation every day. You wont get such a high price just from people who think tesla is cool,this is not the dot com bubble. There must be some real perspective for growth and sustainability to sustain such a high price. That you or I don't see it doesn't mean that it is not there.

why do you conclude it being impossible to be a bubble? such things are found in many fields outside the dotcom area.
Of course it probably has more to do with potential, much as in the dotcom fields; it's very hard to tell who's going ot win decades down the line, but if you pick the right ones they can absolutely explode in value.

I think we might well see electrics take over by the end of the century; a lot really depends on how battery/energy storage tech goes. There's nothing that promising in the next 20-30 years or so; but in 60 years? quite possibly. It's really just the battery issue keeping electric cars down; too bad battery tech hasn't gone as well as some other tech paths.


Compare Batteries from 10 years and to ones today and I think you will see some improvement.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1366 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 21:40:32
June 03 2017 21:40 GMT
#155004
On June 04 2017 06:34 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 06:30 pmh wrote:
On June 03 2017 09:47 LegalLord wrote:
I predict that in a few years, instead of gasoline, our cars will run on the power of hope. Sure is a lot of that stuff around, we could probably use it as a power source.



You are such a troll lol,sometimes I wonder why people react seriously to you. Maybe you know them irl,i don't know.
Anyway,while I do agree with quiet a few of your opinions and projections I think you are wrong when it comes to electric cars. Electricity is the future and it will in the end replace all fossil. But this might still take a very long time,a lot of money is invested in the fossil industry and the lobby and money also effects policys and other investments. Musk is a true pioneer for trying to go against the mainstream. For electric cars to take over and become 50%+ of all vehicles,i doubt we will see that in this century but it will happen eventually. Untill then the tesla cars are a good niche at the worst,and a lot more at the best. Lots of people want to "go green" and tesla is one of the few brands to do so. It has become a sort of status symbol,a way to show that you care about the environment and that you have an enlightened spirit. The valuation of tesla is real,the stocks are bought and sold for that valuation every day. You wont get such a high price just from people who think tesla is cool,this is not the dot com bubble. There must be some real perspective for growth and sustainability to sustain such a high price. That you or I don't see it doesn't mean that it is not there.

why do you conclude it being impossible to be a bubble? such things are found in many fields outside the dotcom area.
Of course it probably has more to do with potential, much as in the dotcom fields; it's very hard to tell who's going ot win decades down the line, but if you pick the right ones they can absolutely explode in value.

I think we might well see electrics take over by the end of the century; a lot really depends on how battery/energy storage tech goes. There's nothing that promising in the next 20-30 years or so; but in 60 years? quite possibly. It's really just the battery issue keeping electric cars down; too bad battery tech hasn't gone as well as some other tech paths.



It just seems unlikely to me that its a bubble,i do think it is overvalued and I would not invest in it personally but this looks different from the dot.com bubble. Some companys had very high valuations during that time but the smaller the company the easier it is to create a bubble with just people who jump on the hype. I don't know how much tesla is worth but I believe it is above 50b, I don't think a 50b valuation can be created just by people who believe and have a dream but maybe it could. It would be interesting to see who has invested in tesla,but I think there will be quiet a few hedge funds amongst the people who have a stake.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1366 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 21:46:39
June 03 2017 21:42 GMT
#155005
About the batterys specifically I am pretty pessimistic in general,there is progress but the progress is not that amazing imo and I think it will sooner or later hit a hard ceiling. Personally I don't see electric cars take over (as in being 50% of all vehicles) with baterys,something better is needed like a hydrogen fuel cell. Still they can learn a lot from working on the batterys and they will have an advantage over everyone else.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 21:48:39
June 03 2017 21:44 GMT
#155006
On June 04 2017 06:35 pmh wrote:
Anyway,kudos to trump for pulling out of the paris agreement,it is something his supporters will appreciate. In the end the whole paris deal is symbolical,it holds not a single obligation or whatever. It basicly changes nothing,its a symbolical change though an important one I have to admit. Personally I think its to late to make a change already,seeing the growth in china and india. Like rusia and china and india they did sign the deal,but exactly what are they going to do to reduce their emissions? Noone knows I think.

https://www.c2es.org/international/key-country-policies/india

https://www.c2es.org/international/key-country-policies/china

It's easy to blame developing nations for their pollution as development just increases energy demand but they are setting ambitious targets for themselves.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
June 03 2017 21:47 GMT
#155007
On June 04 2017 06:35 pmh wrote:
Anyway,kudos to trump for pulling out of the paris agreement,it is something his supporters will appreciate. In the end the whole paris deal is symbolical,it holds not a single obligation or whatever. It basicly changes nothing,its a symbolical change though an important one I have to admit. Personally I think its to late to make a change already,seeing the growth in china and india. Like rusia and china and india they did sign the deal,but exactly what are they going to do to reduce their emissions? Noone knows I think.

You know you can google that shit right?

A draft 10-year energy blueprint published this week predicts that 57% of India’s total electricity capacity will come from non-fossil fuel sources by 2027. The Paris climate accord target was 40% by 2030.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/21/india-renewable-energy-paris-climate-summit-target

China intends to spend more than $360 billion through 2020 on renewable power sources like solar and wind, the government’s energy agency said on Thursday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/world/asia/china-renewable-energy-investment.html

China is the world leader in domestic investment in renewable energy and associated
low-emissions-energy sectors. China invested US$103bn in this sector in 2015, up 17% yoy,
according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF)—two and half times the amount
undertaken by the U.S.

http://ieefa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Chinas-Global-Renewable-Energy-Expansion_January-2017.pdf




"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 03 2017 21:48 GMT
#155008
no details but India saying they'll go above and beyond paris accords http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40144613
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1366 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 21:54:43
June 03 2017 21:50 GMT
#155009
Thx for those links! They do clarify quiet a bit,but india is still going to develop mostly based on coal and their emissions are projected to rise by a large amount.

India produces about 2 tons of CO2e per capita, versus 20 tons and 8 tons, respectively, in the United States and China.

This will change for example,they will go up to 8 tons within 20 years I think if they continue to develop mostly based on coal. Still better then the usa but a big increase regardless.

India appears on track to achieve its voluntary pledge, though emissions are not projected to peak until around 2050 or later.

Global warming is lots of people doing little things to reduce emissions in 1 place,only to heavily stimulate and grow other sectors that emit even more. There are quiet a few examples of this,for example the airline industry whose emissions are projected to grow to 25% of all emissions.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1927 Posts
June 03 2017 21:53 GMT
#155010
On June 04 2017 06:42 pmh wrote:
About the batterys specifically I am pretty pessimistic in general,there is progress but the progress is not that amazing imo,and I think it will sooner or later hit a hard ceiling. Personally I don't see electric cars take over (as in being 50% of all vehicles) with baterys,something better is needed like a hydrogen fuel cell. Still they can learn a lot from working on the batterys and they will have an advantage over everyone else.


You need cheap energy from somewhere no matter how you run cars. If you build more coal-, or even diesel-powerplants to charge all those batteries, the gain big-picture environmental gain is minimal, but we would get cleaner air in the cities.

There is so much hypocricy in this, I am almost puking some times. The only real way to get green technology going is higher fuel prices, but after serious efforts from several nations, the prices fell like a rock since the crisis. Airports are subsidized, highways are built... As soon as real sacrifices needs to be made, we could not care less about what "might" be bad for us in 50 years. Hell, a lot of us smoke...

Buff the siegetank
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 21:57:29
June 03 2017 21:57 GMT
#155011
Hence Solar farms, wind farms, charging stations powered by solar, battery exchange stations powered by solar and so on.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21973 Posts
June 03 2017 22:13 GMT
#155012
On June 04 2017 06:53 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 06:42 pmh wrote:
About the batterys specifically I am pretty pessimistic in general,there is progress but the progress is not that amazing imo,and I think it will sooner or later hit a hard ceiling. Personally I don't see electric cars take over (as in being 50% of all vehicles) with baterys,something better is needed like a hydrogen fuel cell. Still they can learn a lot from working on the batterys and they will have an advantage over everyone else.


You need cheap energy from somewhere no matter how you run cars. If you build more coal-, or even diesel-powerplants to charge all those batteries, the gain big-picture environmental gain is minimal, but we would get cleaner air in the cities.

There is so much hypocricy in this, I am almost puking some times. The only real way to get green technology going is higher fuel prices, but after serious efforts from several nations, the prices fell like a rock since the crisis. Airports are subsidized, highways are built... As soon as real sacrifices needs to be made, we could not care less about what "might" be bad for us in 50 years. Hell, a lot of us smoke...


Raising fuel prices doesn't work in the US because there is no public transport to speak off outside the inner cities. You just end up pricing poor people out of being able to afford a car, and with it their ability to get a job.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 03 2017 22:15 GMT
#155013
This piece of shit. If you're wondering why this sounds familiar it is what Russia did in the 90's, and look where they are now.

President Trump will seek to put a spotlight on his vows to privatize the nation’s air traffic control system and spur $1 trillion in new investment in roads, waterways and other infrastructure with a week-long series of events starting Monday in the Rose Garden.

The events — billed as “infrastructure week” — are part of a stepped-up effort since the president’s return a week ago from his first foreign trip to show that the White House remains focused on its agenda, despite cascading headlines about his administration’s ties to Russia.

Trump’s plans next week also include a trip to the Ohio River, where it separates Ohio and Kentucky, to talk about the importance of waterways and to lay out his vision of infrastructure investments more broadly, aides say. And before the weekend, he will also welcome a bipartisan group of mayors and governors to Washington to discuss the topic and venture to the Transportation Department to talk about roads and railways.

“In many of these areas, we’re falling behind, and the falling behind is affecting economic growth in the United States,” said Gary Cohn, Trump’s chief economic adviser, who is helping lead a task force developing Trump’s infrastructure plan. “The president wants to fix the problem.”

The flurry of planned activity comes as two other marquee Trump promises — overhauling the Affordable Care Act and cutting taxes — remain stalled in Congress, largely because of differences among fellow Republicans and the intricacies of the plans.

It’s unclear whether Trump’s promised infrastructure package, for which the administration hopes to attract bipartisan support, will fare any better when formally introduced in coming months.

Democrats sharply questioned Trump’s commitment to the issue following the administration’s release last month of a budget proposal that, by one accounting, included more cuts to existing infrastructure programs over the next decade than it contemplated in new federal spending.

Citing the analysis by his office, Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) declared on the Senate floor that “President Trump’s campaign promises on infrastructure are crumbling faster than our roads and bridges.”

Trump has proposed spending $200 billion over the 10-year period with the aim of attracting a total of at least $1 trillion in new investments with the help of the private sector and state and local governments. Democrats prefer a much larger infusion of federal money.

In a briefing for reporters, Trump administration officials acknowledged the timing of their infrastructure package remains up in the air but said they hope to move much more quickly on one piece of it: an effort to spin off control of day-to-day air traffic control functions from the federal government.

Trump has invited executives from the major airlines to join him in the Rose Garden on Monday as he touts a plan that aides argue would allow more rapid modernization of the air traffic control system if run by a nonprofit corporation rather than by the Federal Aviation Administration.

For months now, Cohn has been making presentations to interested parties, arguing the benefits of moving to a new GPS-based system for flights rather than the current land-based radar system. Among other things, he says, GPS will help pilots fly more direct routes, cutting down both flight times and fuel usage.

Cohn and other privatization advocates argue that government procurement rules and the uncertainties of the annual congressional budget process have undercut the FAA’s ability to move in that direction.

Aides say Trump’s proposal, which will be sent to Congress separately, is largely based on legislation authored last year by Rep. Bill Shuster (R-Penn.), chairman of the House Transportation Committee. The White House previously called his bill “an excellent starting point” for separating more than 30,000 FAA workers from the government.

Instead of current taxes on fuel and airline tickets, Shuster’s plan would rely on fees paid by aircraft operators. The FAA would retain its role as an oversight agency, much like the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which issues auto regulations and recalls faulty vehicles.

Although Shuster’s bill emerged from his committee last year, it never got a vote on the House floor. In the Senate, reaction was lukewarm among some key Republicans.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 22:23:31
June 03 2017 22:22 GMT
#155014
On June 04 2017 06:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 06:34 zlefin wrote:
On June 04 2017 06:30 pmh wrote:
On June 03 2017 09:47 LegalLord wrote:
I predict that in a few years, instead of gasoline, our cars will run on the power of hope. Sure is a lot of that stuff around, we could probably use it as a power source.



You are such a troll lol,sometimes I wonder why people react seriously to you. Maybe you know them irl,i don't know.
Anyway,while I do agree with quiet a few of your opinions and projections I think you are wrong when it comes to electric cars. Electricity is the future and it will in the end replace all fossil. But this might still take a very long time,a lot of money is invested in the fossil industry and the lobby and money also effects policys and other investments. Musk is a true pioneer for trying to go against the mainstream. For electric cars to take over and become 50%+ of all vehicles,i doubt we will see that in this century but it will happen eventually. Untill then the tesla cars are a good niche at the worst,and a lot more at the best. Lots of people want to "go green" and tesla is one of the few brands to do so. It has become a sort of status symbol,a way to show that you care about the environment and that you have an enlightened spirit. The valuation of tesla is real,the stocks are bought and sold for that valuation every day. You wont get such a high price just from people who think tesla is cool,this is not the dot com bubble. There must be some real perspective for growth and sustainability to sustain such a high price. That you or I don't see it doesn't mean that it is not there.

why do you conclude it being impossible to be a bubble? such things are found in many fields outside the dotcom area.
Of course it probably has more to do with potential, much as in the dotcom fields; it's very hard to tell who's going ot win decades down the line, but if you pick the right ones they can absolutely explode in value.

I think we might well see electrics take over by the end of the century; a lot really depends on how battery/energy storage tech goes. There's nothing that promising in the next 20-30 years or so; but in 60 years? quite possibly. It's really just the battery issue keeping electric cars down; too bad battery tech hasn't gone as well as some other tech paths.


Compare Batteries from 10 years and to ones today and I think you will see some improvement.


How about coal from 10 years ago to coal today? I don't know that lithium metal oxide based batteries with silicon/carbon anodes have that much more room for improvement, even if the cutting edge hasn't quite been commercialized yet. Although the new Goodenough battery appears to defy physics:

In 1980, his work led to the invention of the lithium-ion battery — now crucial to powering everything from cellphones and laptops to electric cars. For a lot of people, that would probably be enough. But at 94 years old, he's still at it.

"All the young people that I had as postdocs are getting ready to retire," he says, laughing.

Now, Goodenough and his team say they've created a new battery that may store up to five times more power than current ones. And, even better, such a battery would charge and recharge in a matter of minutes — all without exploding.

…

"As revered and important as John Goodenough is," Steingart says, "the mechanism described to account for the anomalous capacity appeared to be in conflict with the first law of thermodynamics."

www.npr.org

See also:
[image loading]

https://medium.com/the-unfortunate-tetrahedron/a-potential-big-deal-in-batteries-298c7ad9543a
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 23:22:54
June 03 2017 23:17 GMT
#155015
Ffs...



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 03 2017 23:48 GMT
#155016
You know, since Trump took office we haven't had a terrorist attack on US soil. We must be doing something right.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 03 2017 23:57 GMT
#155017
On June 04 2017 08:48 LegalLord wrote:
You know, since Trump took office we haven't had a terrorist attack on US soil. We must be doing something right.

"I killed a puppy, but since it upset a liberal, I must be doing something right."
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 04 2017 00:00 GMT
#155018
On June 04 2017 08:48 LegalLord wrote:
You know, since Trump took office we haven't had a terrorist attack on US soil. We must be doing something right.



yeah that ban is working wonders. oh wait...
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 04 2017 00:07 GMT
#155019
Well maybe it was the idea of a ban that just scared em off and convinced them to go attack Europe instead?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 04 2017 00:11 GMT
#155020
On June 04 2017 09:07 LegalLord wrote:
Well maybe it was the idea of a ban that just scared em off and convinced them to go attack Europe instead?

Wow.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Prev 1 7749 7750 7751 7752 7753 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 198
Harstem 190
ProTech120
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 39044
Sea 4983
Horang2 1889
Rain 1756
Shuttle 1179
Mini 558
Hyuk 457
BeSt 404
firebathero 329
Larva 281
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 280
Light 196
Backho 176
Soma 174
Soulkey 134
ZerO 131
Leta 83
Barracks 82
hero 82
Rush 72
ToSsGirL 58
soO 47
Mong 40
Aegong 38
Sea.KH 34
Sharp 26
Sacsri 20
sorry 19
Noble 19
Free 18
Terrorterran 15
Icarus 15
Bale 12
Dota 2
singsing727
XcaliburYe185
League of Legends
JimRising 341
Reynor129
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2381
allub322
Other Games
B2W.Neo749
ceh9481
Pyrionflax359
Fuzer 293
Mew2King88
QueenE45
nookyyy 44
ZerO(Twitch)10
MindelVK6
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream258
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2139
Other Games
• WagamamaTV258
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
3h 7m
ByuN vs herO
ByuN vs Classic
OSC
5h 7m
LAN Event
6h 7m
Replay Cast
11h 7m
Replay Cast
21h 7m
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.