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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 10 2014 21:34 GMT
#15441
WASHINGTON -- The federal government will recognize the same-sex marriages that were performed in Utah during a brief window, despite the state government's decision not to do the same, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Friday.

A federal judge in Utah struck down the state's ban on same-sex marriages on Dec. 20, and thousands of couples rushed to get their marriage licenses. But the state of Utah is appealing the decision, and the Supreme Court earlier this week put the ruling on hold until the appeals court has ruled.

The Supreme Court's decision halted the state from performing any additional same-sex unions, but it didn't address the status of those same-sex marriages performed in the interim period. Holder's announcement Friday clarified that those couples will, for now, be afforded the federal benefits married couples receive.

"I am confirming today that, for purposes of federal law, these marriages will be recognized as lawful and considered eligible for all relevant federal benefits on the same terms as other same-sex marriages," Holder said in a video released Friday afternoon.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 10 2014 21:41 GMT
#15442
On January 11 2014 06:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
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WASHINGTON -- The federal government will recognize the same-sex marriages that were performed in Utah during a brief window, despite the state government's decision not to do the same, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Friday.

A federal judge in Utah struck down the state's ban on same-sex marriages on Dec. 20, and thousands of couples rushed to get their marriage licenses. But the state of Utah is appealing the decision, and the Supreme Court earlier this week put the ruling on hold until the appeals court has ruled.

The Supreme Court's decision halted the state from performing any additional same-sex unions, but it didn't address the status of those same-sex marriages performed in the interim period. Holder's announcement Friday clarified that those couples will, for now, be afforded the federal benefits married couples receive.

"I am confirming today that, for purposes of federal law, these marriages will be recognized as lawful and considered eligible for all relevant federal benefits on the same terms as other same-sex marriages," Holder said in a video released Friday afternoon.


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Nice!
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 10 2014 21:44 GMT
#15443
Port Authority Executive Director Pat Foye wrote an impassioned email to the general manager of the George Washington Bridge on Sept. 13, arguing that lane closures that spiraled into a major scandal this week were illegal.

Foye's email, addressed to Robert Durando and other Port Authority officials, fumed that he was not included in the decision, which he said was damaging the public safety and the economy. He ordered that it be reversed.

"This hasty and ill-advised decision has resulted in delays to emergency vehicles. I pray that no life has been lost or trip of a hospital- or hospice-bound patient delayed," he wrote. He added: "I believe this hasty and ill-advised decision violates Federal Law and the laws of both States."


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The New Jersey lawmaker who's been leading the state assembly's investigation into the scandal surrounding lane closures on the George Washington Bridge said Friday that newly released documents raise further questions about the extent to which New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's (R) administration covered up the mess.

Assemblyman John Wisniewski (D) in a statement drew particular attention to a document showing an apparent meeting between Christie and the chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which oversees the bridge, just days before his deputy chief of staff wrote an email to a top Port Authority appointee saying it was "time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee."


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 10 2014 22:15 GMT
#15444
West Virginia schools and restaurants closed, grocery stores sold out of bottled water, and state legislators who had just started their session canceled the day’s business after a chemical spill in the Elk River in Charleston shut down much of the city and surrounding counties even as the cause and extent of the incident remained unclear.

The warnings affect about 300,000 people. There have been no reports of sickness or death, although residents have expressed frustration and anger at authorities and the chemical plant for not informing them of the spill earlier.

“About time you issued this! Communication failure to the public on your part!” a Charleston resident tweeted Thursday at American Water, the water company that services the city.

“The water has been contaminated,” said West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin, who didn't know how long the emergency declaration would last. Federal authorities have also declared a disaster in the area, which includes West Virginia American Water customers in Boone, Cabell, Clay, Jackson, Kanawha, Lincoln, Logan, Putnam and Roane counties.

Tomblin told residents of the affected area that tap water should be used only for flushing toilets, saying the advisory extends to restaurants, hospitals, nursing homes and other establishments.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 10 2014 22:42 GMT
#15445
Via the WSJ:

Mr. Christie, a Republican, complained in a private phone call to Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, that Patrick Foye, the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, was pressing too hard to get to the bottom of why the number of toll lanes onto the bridge from Fort Lee, N.J. was cut from three to one in early September, according to this person. The lane closures occurred without notice to local authorities, officials have said, and snarled traffic for a week in the small borough on the Hudson River bluffs.


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New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie called New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo this week to complain about a Cuomo appointee's handling of a growing controversy over traffic pattern changes on the George Washington Bridge, a person familiar with the matter said.

Mr. Christie, a Republican, complained in a private phone call to Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, that Patrick Foye, the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, was pressing too hard to get to the bottom of why the number of toll lanes onto the bridge from...


Source <--- Paywall.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
January 10 2014 23:17 GMT
#15446
If this chris christie thing turns out to be as bad as it looks it could really come back to bite him in the ass.
dreaming of a sunny day
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 11 2014 00:41 GMT
#15447
I'm actually surprised Hillary's still making the run after being on the forefront of politics for 20 years. Very politically active First Lady, Secretary of State... she's aged over 20 years, and the presidency really takes the life out of a person. This is Obama over four years, people thought McCain was going to die (and leave the presidency with Palin lol), Hillary's a strong woman but I don't think it'll be pretty.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
January 11 2014 00:45 GMT
#15448
Not suprised she is tbh. Its always been obvious her goal was a presidency and with Obama gone I dont think there is a lot of opposition from the Dems for it now. She was at the forefront every since Clinton just so she had this chance.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 11 2014 02:50 GMT
#15449
WASHINGTON, Jan 10 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday agreed to hear a closely watched appeal filed by the four major broadcasters against online television service Aereo Inc, which they claim steals copyrighted television content.

Walt Disney Co's ABC network, CBS Broadcasting Inc, Comcast Corp's NBCUniversal and Twenty-First Century Fox Inc appealed a decision by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in April that denied their request to shut Aereo down while litigation moves forward.

Aereo, backed by Barry Diller's IAC/InterActiveCorp , charges users a low monthly fee to watch live or recorded broadcast TV channels on computers or mobile devices. Aereo does not pay the broadcasters.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
January 11 2014 03:24 GMT
#15450
To me it's not clear that Hillary will run. She certainly might; and people saying they aren't gonna run isn't reliable. But she would be very aware of how much the presidency takes out of a person; and has previously indicated she might not run simply because she doesn't have the energy to.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 11 2014 03:39 GMT
#15451
On January 11 2014 12:24 zlefin wrote:
To me it's not clear that Hillary will run. She certainly might; and people saying they aren't gonna run isn't reliable. But she would be very aware of how much the presidency takes out of a person; and has previously indicated she might not run simply because she doesn't have the energy to.
Certainly a lot of people urging her to run. The grassroots effort bought her mailing list from her previous presidential campaign. Ready For Hillary's latest fund drive used info@hillaryclinton.com--doubtful that it didn't get tacit approval simply by not being nixed by the woman herself.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 11 2014 18:45 GMT
#15452
So what are the odds that Hillary gets thrown overboard yet again for another democrat in the primary?
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 18:52:12
January 11 2014 18:50 GMT
#15453
On January 12 2014 03:45 xDaunt wrote:
So what are the odds that Hillary gets thrown overboard yet again for another democrat in the primary?

I think it's gonna be up to her if she wants it or not. The novelty of having an African America president is gone. She had those strokes or whatever so she's not in the best of health anymore. I'm still annoyed that Obama beat Billary.
dude bro.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 11 2014 18:51 GMT
#15454
WASHINGTON – The House of Representatives passed a bill on Thursday overhauling the country's hazardous waste laws.

The bill, called the Reducing Excessive Deadline Obligations Act, amends both the Solid Waste Disposal Act and the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation and Liability Act (which is commonly known as Superfund). It would remove requirements that the EPA periodically update and review solid waste disposal regulations, and would make it harder for the government to require companies that deal with hazardous substances to carry enough insurance to cover cleanup. The bill would also require more consultation with states before the government imposes cleanup requirements for Superfund sites -- places where hazardous waste is located and could be affecting local people or ecosystems.

The bill passed by a vote of 225 to 188, largely along party lines. Four Republicans voted against it, and five Democrats voted for it.

Rep. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), the bill's sponsor, called the legislation "common-sense revisions of existing rules and regulations." But others were quick to criticize the bill, saying it weakens environmental protections.

The environmental group Earthjustice has said the bill would "gut" the Superfund program, which was created in 1980 to ensure that polluting industries pay to clean up hazardous sites. There are currently more than 1,300 sites around the country listed as priority Superfund cleanup sites. Opponents say the changes in the House bill would delay those efforts and put taxpayers on the hook for future cleanups. A group of 129 environmental and local citizens groups have written to Congress urging the defeat of the bill.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 11 2014 19:54 GMT
#15455
A Green-Movement Website Shakes Up The Debate Over GMOs

A 26-part series on genetically modified food was not Nathanael Johnson's idea. And he didn't realize it would take six months, either.

Last year, Johnson was hired as the new food writer for Grist, a website for environmental news and opinion. Grist's editor, Scott Rosenberg, was waiting with an assignment: Dig into the controversy over GMOs. ...

Where he ends up, in fact, is the final surprising thing about this series. Instead of preaching to the deep-green choir, Johnson questions its faith. He challenges many of the anti-GMO views that Grist's readers are used to seeing.

Which doesn't put him squarely in the pro-GMO camp, either. Unlike British polemicist Mark Lynas, who switched sides in this debate, Johnson is all about nuance. Are GMOs bad for the environment? Well, yes and no. They've allowed farmers to cut their use of insecticides while increasing the use of chemical weed-killers. More effective weed control is good for crop yields but bad for the Monarch butterfly. And so on.

Some of Grist's readers haven't appreciated the nuance, and reacted to Johnson's series with the kind of anger that's reserved for those who betray a righteous cause. ...

Link
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 21:40:37
January 11 2014 21:02 GMT
#15456
gmos are only one facet of a deeply problematic regime of industrial agriculture, the problem here is just that the public discourse about it is myopic

is our agricultural production deeply fucked? yes. is it deeply fucked entirely and unequivocally because of gmo? no

edit: also, while I'm thinking about it, I want to address something from a couple of weeks ago. after some idiot banned me, most of the responses to me were based on mocking me for beliefs I do not hold (the main way that people respond to me here). I just want to put forth that I believe 100 percent in private property and that I think one of the main problems with our society today is that there is very little private property. a joint stock corporation is not private property, it is a form of absentee landlordism, which is the antithesis of private property. late capitalism is NOT a system based on private property, there is basically no private property in the capitalist system today. equities are not private property. your mortgaged house is not private property. securities are not private property. anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot and needs to go read their adam smith
shikata ga nai
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
January 11 2014 21:11 GMT
#15457
I think the conclusion to the series is important. As far as any really important environmental and health issues are concerned the GMO debate is close to irrelevant.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 11 2014 21:53 GMT
#15458
In theory there is not much difference between GMO and artificial selection that's been going on for generations. Problems arise when it's used as a tool by Monsanto et al. to expand and prolong a fragile monoculture-based agribusiness. If you want to talk about health consequences don't bring in hysterical arguments about "frankenfoods." Anti-scientific paranoia is just that. Don't expect to be taken seriously without biologically-based arguments such as protein interactions in vivo.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
January 11 2014 23:26 GMT
#15459
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/01/if-you-really-care-about-ending-poverty-stop-talking-about-inequality/282906/

ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
January 11 2014 23:30 GMT
#15460
On January 12 2014 06:02 sam!zdat wrote:
gmos are only one facet of a deeply problematic regime of industrial agriculture, the problem here is just that the public discourse about it is myopic

is our agricultural production deeply fucked? yes. is it deeply fucked entirely and unequivocally because of gmo? no

edit: also, while I'm thinking about it, I want to address something from a couple of weeks ago. after some idiot banned me, most of the responses to me were based on mocking me for beliefs I do not hold (the main way that people respond to me here). I just want to put forth that I believe 100 percent in private property and that I think one of the main problems with our society today is that there is very little private property. a joint stock corporation is not private property, it is a form of absentee landlordism, which is the antithesis of private property. late capitalism is NOT a system based on private property, there is basically no private property in the capitalist system today. equities are not private property. your mortgaged house is not private property. securities are not private property. anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot and needs to go read their adam smith

I don't think our agricultural production is fucked. I think it's amazing! We have more choice that at any time in history, and at lower prices than ever. There are just a lot of silly privileged people who have problems with it for various touchy-feely reasons which I personally don't care about.

Also, your talk about how there is very little private property these days is transparent nonsense.
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