EPTThen along came Trump. A man so poor at business no one will lend him money to lose anymore. He's not in the republican or democrat bag, he's gotta go outside the country to find a bag to get into.
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
Then along came Trump. A man so poor at business no one will lend him money to lose anymore. He's not in the republican or democrat bag, he's gotta go outside the country to find a bag to get into. | ||
KwarK
United States43746 Posts
On October 24 2016 21:37 biology]major wrote: www.wsj.com + Show Spoiler + The political organization of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, an influential Democrat with longstanding ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton, gave nearly $500,000 to the election campaign of the wife of an official at the Federal Bureau of Investigation who later helped oversee the investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s email use. Campaign finance records show Mr. McAuliffe’s political-action committee donated $467,500 to the 2015 state Senate campaign of Dr. Jill McCabe, who is married to Andrew McCabe, now the deputy director of the FBI. Coincidence? Could be? Wasn't Hillary who gave or the FBI deputy director who received so it's hard to say. The problem with a couple like Hillary and Bill is that it'd be damn near to find anyone who met the definition of "influential Democrat" but did not meet the definition of "longstanding ties to the Clintons". If you told me that Hillary called him up and said "bribe this dude through having your PAC donate to his wife's campaign" I'd believe it. If you told me that it was coincidence I'd believe it. There's enough separation for it to likely be unrelated but enough connection that the story is coherent if it was related. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11786 Posts
On October 24 2016 23:16 xM(Z wrote: both republicans and democrats were in your bag ... but then came Trump. So why are the big evil conspirators who are capable of rigging the US general election so incompetent that they manage to not be able to deal with a buffoon like Trump? Logical conclusion: Either Trump is also in their bag, they are very bad at conspiracies (which is in contradiction to the assumption that they are big evil conspirators), or they simply don't exist. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On October 24 2016 23:22 Simberto wrote: So why are the big evil conspirators who are capable of rigging the US general election so incompetent that they manage to not be able to deal with a buffoon like Trump? Logical conclusion: Either Trump is also in their bag, they are very bad at conspiracies (which is in contradiction to the assumption that they are big evil conspirators), or they simply don't exist. You don't get it. Trump is a genius. He's playing 72D chess while the two parties are playing checkers. Trump is so outside of the system, he's automatically thinking outside of the box. The box can't even contain him. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
On October 24 2016 23:22 Simberto wrote: come on there are million of reasons but to touch on the most obvious one: no one thought he would make it so no one bothered with him. he was the clown, the caricature.So why are the big evil conspirators who are capable of rigging the US general election so incompetent that they manage to not be able to deal with a buffoon like Trump? Logical conclusion: Either Trump is also in their bag, they are very bad at conspiracies (which is in contradiction to the assumption that they are big evil conspirators), or they simply don't exist. it would've been like spending money on welfare. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
On October 24 2016 23:50 xM(Z wrote: nope, rigging the general election would have to involve just a few bits of data. Oh, thank you for clarifying and explaining that. I guess we can call it a wrap after such a thorough, concise, indisputable explanation. | ||
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KwarK
United States43746 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 24 2016 22:40 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Did you read what the US head of intelligence actually SAID or are you just re-parroting HuffPo talking points? James Clapper, Head of US Intelligence : Nothing to suggest the Russian government is involved at this stage so if Clinton could stop mentioning Putin every five seconds that'd be great.Enough with the conspiracy theories. Plus it hardly matters what was written in secret documents.The issue here is the narrative given by the US president at the time and the Government at large was that Iraq was being invaded due to Saddam having WMDs.This despite UN weapons inspectors finding nothing.What is there to debate here, it's all common knowledge at this point.The public was lied to.You are putting your trust in organisations that have lied repeatedly on a massive scale, leading to the death and misery of millions. That portion refers to the probing of the system and attempts to directly rig the voting machines/election systems. Not the hacking of the DNC or attempts to influence the election through documents, where they said: We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities Please read the statements yourself. And no, you are flatly wrong. The intelligence community did not lie about the WMDs. The administration did. You can argue whether the intelligence community should have done bypassed the White House, but we did not see any release of this sort for WMDs. I eagerly await your next attempt to move the goalposts. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 24 2016 23:57 KwarK wrote: Election over boys. We can all go home. And I was going to take advantage of early voting, but I guess there is no point now. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
On October 24 2016 23:50 xM(Z wrote: nope, rigging the general election would have to involve just a few bits of data. If it were this simple then every election would have been rigged. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9188 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22158 Posts
On October 25 2016 00:10 Dan HH wrote: Why is a forum about online games so attractive to conspiracy theorists? Is it me or are they overrepresented here? Because a lot of socially dysfunctional people with to much time on their hands play video games. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 25 2016 00:10 Dan HH wrote: Why is a forum about online games so attractive to conspiracy theorists? Is it me or are they overrepresented here? Video games are a form of escapism, power fantasy and ripe with b-grade action movie plots involving “complex” plans to overthrow governments or destroy worlds. The medium has appeal to people who believe in conspiracy theories. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
On October 25 2016 00:10 Dan HH wrote: Why is a forum about online games so attractive to conspiracy theorists? Is it me or are they overrepresented here? I think if you were to look at the entire population that spends considerable amounts of time on internet communities, you would find that it has a higher percentage of people who feel what I think of as "societal momentum". What I mean by that is that the type of person who spends a lot of time online is less likely to feel swayed and influenced by popular or common opinion and that they tend to be the type of person who looks for their own solutions. If these people happen to be particularly compelled by some conspiracy "red/blue pill" nonsense, it is likely to spiral out of control until you end up like nettles. I think it is really easy to trick people and there is such a wealth of conspiracy nonsense on the internet. You can just get so deep in it that people who are already "fuck the system" types can feel quite at home. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
On October 25 2016 00:10 Dan HH wrote: Why is a forum about online games so attractive to conspiracy theorists? Is it me or are they overrepresented here? You'll see a lot of them on websites attracting 20 or 30 somethings. Generations raised on skepticism of traditional societal organs and the DIY independence only the Internet can provide. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On October 25 2016 00:10 Dan HH wrote: Why is a forum about online games so attractive to conspiracy theorists? Is it me or are they overrepresented here? Because the only people who post on a forum about online games are internet folk. And only internet folk learn about the world from reddit. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
I see lots of dumb tinfoily shit in people I know aswell. Who I otherwise like. | ||
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levelping
Singapore759 Posts
On October 25 2016 00:10 Dan HH wrote: Why is a forum about online games so attractive to conspiracy theorists? Is it me or are they overrepresented here? I was actually talking about this with a friend today. We agreed that the Internet is basically mass media on a ridiculous scale. We used to talk about how TV, news, and advertising are skewing the way we look at the world. The Internet takes all these problems and multiplies them. Basically on the Internet you can find your easily find your own echo chamber with like minded people, and just mutually indulge whatever perception of the world you want to have. Thats how we have conspiracy theorists, flat earthers, and so on. | ||
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