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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 02:06:34
October 05 2016 02:05 GMT
#106641
On October 05 2016 11:02 plasmidghost wrote:
How hard would it be for the US, with a coalition of international forces, to rebuild Syria after the civil war is over in exchange for their natural gas reserves? Let's face it, the US would never help Syria without gaining access to those sweet, sweet resources

Foreign driven nation building didn't work in Iraq, wouldn't work in Syria. It would be a fiasco all over again, with the ensuring rise in terrorism and so on. Hands off and helping them rebuild when and how they ask for help is the only way.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
October 05 2016 02:05 GMT
#106642
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 05 2016 02:06 GMT
#106643
Pence going with that "weak and feckless" line a lot.
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 05 2016 02:07 GMT
#106644
On October 05 2016 11:05 plasmidghost wrote:
I agree with helping our allies, but I saw that apparently the US spends way more of a percentage on military compared to other NATO countries, with most of them being under the agreement of 2%, is there a way to force them to hold up to their agreements?

yes, spend less ourselves.

also the 2% isn't a formal agreement in the treaty or anything.
mostly the US spends a lot on its military that it really doesn't need to at all.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 05 2016 02:08 GMT
#106645
On October 05 2016 11:05 plasmidghost wrote:
I agree with helping our allies, but I saw that apparently the US spends way more of a percentage on military compared to other NATO countries, with most of them being under the agreement of 2%, is there a way to force them to hold up to their agreements?

No? It's basically just a treaty in which they proclaim to make an effort to spend 2% of their GDP on military. It's pretty non-committal.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 05 2016 02:08 GMT
#106646
This is just a big shit show. What a mess.
Never Knows Best.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9245 Posts
October 05 2016 02:08 GMT
#106647
On October 05 2016 11:04 Slaughter wrote:
The sleeping giant of the Russian bear has awakened! Cold war pt 2 is coming yall.

More of a raccoon these days
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44286 Posts
October 05 2016 02:08 GMT
#106648
On October 05 2016 11:05 plasmidghost wrote:
I agree with helping our allies, but I saw that apparently the US spends way more of a percentage on military compared to other NATO countries, with most of them being under the agreement of 2%, is there a way to force them to hold up to their agreements?

Two things. Firstly, it's a guideline, not a rule. Secondly, it's a commitment to the North Atlantic zone, not the world. That's why allies such as Australia aren't in NATO, they're in other pacts. The fact that the US spends a portion of its budget garrisoning Japan does not help American NATO allies one iota. For an apples to apples comparison you'd really need to assess the numbers for meeting NATO commitments. Germany has a lot of NATO commitments, the United States has a lot of non NATO commitments, you can't just do a comparison of overall %s.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 05 2016 02:09 GMT
#106649
The US could coerce other NATO nations to spend more on their military - but it's not in the interests of the US to do that. See my earlier NATO post about neoconservative policy.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 05 2016 02:09 GMT
#106650
This is getting like a childrens argument "he said/did that" "no he/I didn't"~!
Never Knows Best.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9245 Posts
October 05 2016 02:09 GMT
#106651
On October 05 2016 11:05 plasmidghost wrote:
I agree with helping our allies, but I saw that apparently the US spends way more of a percentage on military compared to other NATO countries, with most of them being under the agreement of 2%, is there a way to force them to hold up to their agreements?

There is no 2% agreement, it's a recommendation
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 05 2016 02:09 GMT
#106652
Kaine is like a rabid dog.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 05 2016 02:09 GMT
#106653
I wish the candidates would at least attack each other. all they're doing is attacking the main candidates; I want to know what these guys defects/problems are.
I know pence has a bunch of baggage, I'd assume kaine has at least some; but that's not coming up at all.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
October 05 2016 02:10 GMT
#106654
Kaine is dodging so much right now
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6477 Posts
October 05 2016 02:10 GMT
#106655
Trump doesn't understand the threat of Russia.

"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
October 05 2016 02:10 GMT
#106656
Holy hell this debate is a special kind of awful.

There is no winning this debate anymore. Both of these men are iredeemably awful.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 05 2016 02:10 GMT
#106657
On October 05 2016 11:09 zlefin wrote:
I wish the candidates would at least attack each other. all they're doing is attacking the main candidates; I want to know what these guys defects/problems are.
I know pence has a bunch of baggage, I'd assume kaine has at least some; but that's not coming up at all.

problem is no one cares about these guys so it isn't worth bothering
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
October 05 2016 02:10 GMT
#106658
On October 05 2016 11:09 LegalLord wrote:
The US could coerce other NATO nations to spend more on their military - but it's not in the interests of the US to do that. See my earlier NATO post about neoconservative policy.


NATO nations are already doing that actually.
Yes im
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 05 2016 02:11 GMT
#106659
On October 05 2016 11:10 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:09 zlefin wrote:
I wish the candidates would at least attack each other. all they're doing is attacking the main candidates; I want to know what these guys defects/problems are.
I know pence has a bunch of baggage, I'd assume kaine has at least some; but that's not coming up at all.

problem is no one cares about these guys so it isn't worth bothering

I care! and I have good reason to care. these guys might be president.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24342 Posts
October 05 2016 02:11 GMT
#106660
So far I think this has been a miserable introduction for Kaine to much of the American public.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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