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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 05 2016 02:11 GMT
#106661
On October 05 2016 11:10 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:09 LegalLord wrote:
The US could coerce other NATO nations to spend more on their military - but it's not in the interests of the US to do that. See my earlier NATO post about neoconservative policy.


NATO nations are already doing that actually.

Some are some aren't.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 05 2016 02:12 GMT
#106662
On October 05 2016 11:09 LegalLord wrote:
The US could coerce other NATO nations to spend more on their military - but it's not in the interests of the US to do that. See my earlier NATO post about neoconservative policy.

Could you elaborate how the US would coerce their allies? Sue them? Their is no legal basis for that whatsoever. Economically strongarm us? Please try, then we could finally bury TTIP. Bully us with the remaining diplomatic credentials? Would probably work, wouldn't be much of an alliance afterwards.
Get off my lawn, young punks
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 05 2016 02:12 GMT
#106663
On October 05 2016 11:11 GreenHorizons wrote:
So far I think this has been a miserable introduction for Kaine to much of the American public.

He's trying really hard to drag Pence into the mud, but I don't think that he's succeeding. His unhinged approach is all wrong.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 05 2016 02:12 GMT
#106664
So, I hereby claim to be a better vice president than either of these two are! who else wishes to claim the same?
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 05 2016 02:13 GMT
#106665
OH LOOK! THE MODERATOR TOLD KAINE TO SHUT UP!
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
October 05 2016 02:13 GMT
#106666
Pence lying out of his ass repeatedly to cover up Kaine's attacks.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 05 2016 02:13 GMT
#106667
On October 05 2016 11:12 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:09 LegalLord wrote:
The US could coerce other NATO nations to spend more on their military - but it's not in the interests of the US to do that. See my earlier NATO post about neoconservative policy.

Could you elaborate how the US would coerce their allies? Sue them? Their is no legal basis for that whatsoever. Economically strongarm us? Please try, then we could finally bury TTIP. Bully us with the remaining diplomatic credentials? Would probably work, wouldn't be much of an alliance afterwards.

Do less to defend them. But that would be stupid.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 02:15:35
October 05 2016 02:14 GMT
#106668
On October 05 2016 11:13 xDaunt wrote:
OH LOOK! THE MODERATOR TOLD KAINE TO SHUT UP!



^ She has done it several times to both of them. They rarely listen though.


Also how can Pence talk about how much stronger the US is than Russia but somehow so weak and vulnerable.
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 05 2016 02:15 GMT
#106669
On October 05 2016 11:13 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Pence lying out of his ass repeatedly to cover up Kaine's attacks.

Kaine going off topic and attacking taxes at every opportunity even when it doesn't make sense.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7227 Posts
October 05 2016 02:15 GMT
#106670
On October 05 2016 11:11 GreenHorizons wrote:
So far I think this has been a miserable introduction for Kaine to much of the American public.


I agree. I'm voting for Hillary but I'm not much of a fan of Kaine.


How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 05 2016 02:15 GMT
#106671
oh, it really was Pence who said the Putin is a better leader thing? I was sure Trump said that as well
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5583 Posts
October 05 2016 02:15 GMT
#106672
On October 05 2016 11:13 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Pence lying out of his ass repeatedly to cover up Kaine's attacks.

Kaine just spamming out more than can be covered in the time they have, and with the back and forth he can always change the subject and spam a different attack.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 05 2016 02:16 GMT
#106673
I think Trump said it; then pence backed him up.
pence has the unpleasant job of backing up everything trump says.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 05 2016 02:16 GMT
#106674
On October 05 2016 11:15 Toadesstern wrote:
oh, it really was Pence who said the Putin is a better leader thing? I was sure Trump said that as well

Republicans actually are a fan of "strong leader" Putin and wish they had a strong leader like that.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
October 05 2016 02:16 GMT
#106675
On October 05 2016 11:12 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:11 GreenHorizons wrote:
So far I think this has been a miserable introduction for Kaine to much of the American public.

He's trying really hard to drag Pence into the mud, but I don't think that he's succeeding. His unhinged approach is all wrong.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 05 2016 02:16 GMT
#106676
The NATO 2% thing isn't some pot everybody throws money in, it's a guideline on how much every nation is supposed to spend relative to their economic size. If we spend to start more, how does that help the US? The US isn't going to scale back military spending anyway.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 05 2016 02:17 GMT
#106677
the us could start spending at mexico's rate! that'd teach everybody
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 05 2016 02:17 GMT
#106678
Here is your opening Kaine. Hit him with the Trump Foundation.
Never Knows Best.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42654 Posts
October 05 2016 02:18 GMT
#106679
How are you going to stop North Korea making nuclear missiles?

The Clinton Foundation
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 05 2016 02:19 GMT
#106680
hmm, maybe I'll use the questions provided to the candidates and answer them myself later.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
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