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On October 05 2016 11:13 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 11:12 ACrow wrote:On October 05 2016 11:09 LegalLord wrote:
The US could coerce other NATO nations to spend more on their military - but it's not in the interests of the US to do that. See my earlier NATO post about neoconservative policy. Could you elaborate how the US would coerce their allies? Sue them? Their is no legal basis for that whatsoever. Economically strongarm us? Please try, then we could finally bury TTIP. Bully us with the remaining diplomatic credentials? Would probably work, wouldn't be much of an alliance afterwards. Do less to defend them. But that would be stupid.
What do you mean by that? Not coming to their aid when attacked? Now that would be an actual violation of the treaties (unlike the 2% goal). Not participating in NATO missions? That would be funny, as most of them are conducted on initiative of the US, for example when the US asked for helped when it invaded Afghanistan.
If you mean for example the garrisoning of additional troops in Poland and Check Republic (Tcheck? no idea how to spell it in English, lul) and the Baltic, yeah, well, again the only proponents of that are the US themselves, plus the host countries. And afaik, those countries are the ones that are actually spending generously on military.
"Do less to defend them" is just a Trumpian soundbyte, without any actual meaning to it.
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"Trump Organization is a octopus like organization with tentacles all over the world."
What? What in the world?
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LOL the moderator just reminded them about NK and they have a laugh and then Pence goes RIGHT BACK INTO THE FOUNDATION STUFF LOOOOOOL.
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On October 05 2016 11:19 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 11:13 LegalLord wrote:On October 05 2016 11:12 ACrow wrote:On October 05 2016 11:09 LegalLord wrote:
The US could coerce other NATO nations to spend more on their military - but it's not in the interests of the US to do that. See my earlier NATO post about neoconservative policy. Could you elaborate how the US would coerce their allies? Sue them? Their is no legal basis for that whatsoever. Economically strongarm us? Please try, then we could finally bury TTIP. Bully us with the remaining diplomatic credentials? Would probably work, wouldn't be much of an alliance afterwards. Do less to defend them. But that would be stupid. What do you mean by that? Not coming to their aid when attacked? Not that would be an actual violation of the treaties (unlike the 2% goal). Not participating in NATO missions? That would be funny, as most of them are conducted on initiative of the US, for example when the US asked for helped when it invaded Afghanistan. If you mean for example the garrisoning of additional troops in Poland and Check Republic (Tcheck? no idea how to spell it in English, lul) and the Baltic, yeah, well, again the only proponents of that are the US themselves, plus the host countries. And afaik, those countries are the ones that are actually spending generously on military. "Do less to defend them" is just a Trumpian soundbyte, without any actual meaning to it.
My entire point is that they could do that but it would act against US interests to do so.
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"This is about North Korea"
"Hahaha.....now back to the Trump Foundation"
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On October 05 2016 11:19 Netscape9 wrote:
"Trump Organization is a octopus like organization with tentacles all over the world."
What? What in the world?
you could probably make some good h... I'm not going there
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On October 05 2016 11:11 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 11:10 ImFromPortugal wrote:On October 05 2016 11:09 LegalLord wrote:
The US could coerce other NATO nations to spend more on their military - but it's not in the interests of the US to do that. See my earlier NATO post about neoconservative policy. NATO nations are already doing that actually. Some are some aren't.
some can't.. our country is in NATO and we don't have money to "rebuild" our army.
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Pence still lying out of his ass to cover the Trump Foundation.
Kaine's attack on the foundation was so good until he brought up those fixing taxes. He sounds like a broken record.
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2016 is fucking awful can it end already pls
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I still wanna hear more about the veeps themselves; the odds of them being president are high enough that they matter!
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On October 05 2016 11:21 Slaughter wrote:
LOL the moderator just reminded them about NK and they have a laugh and then Pence goes RIGHT BACK INTO THE FOUNDATION STUFF LOOOOOOL.
tbf that was basicly "I know Kaine used his 2 minutes to dodge the NK question so I'll give you 30 secs to respond to THAT and then we'll try again with you two guys, same question." so that's fine imo
wait what. Pence didn't get another 2 minutes to also answer the question? Or did he use it to talk more about trump foundation and I missed it?
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One great moment for Kaine on Trump's debt and Pence can't even respond.
Pence just had a "well played" look on his face.
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"What is the role faith has played in your lives?"
Wow, what is wrong with this country? What does that have to do with policy?
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On October 05 2016 11:23 Stratos_speAr wrote:
One great moment for Kaine on Trump's debt and Pence can't even respond.
Pence just had a "well played" look on his face.
Because eventually they have to fucking move on to a real subject like what church they grew up in, okay?
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On October 05 2016 11:22 zlefin wrote:
I still wanna hear more about the veeps themselves; the odds of them being president are high enough that they matter!
how so ?
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On October 05 2016 11:24 Netscape9 wrote:
"What is the role faith has played in your lives?"
Wow, what is wrong with this country? What does that have to do with policy?
GROSS
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Honestly, faith questions like this shouldn't matter at all
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On October 05 2016 11:24 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 11:23 Stratos_speAr wrote:
One great moment for Kaine on Trump's debt and Pence can't even respond.
Pence just had a "well played" look on his face. Because eventually they have to fucking move on to a real subject like what church they grew up in, okay?
Have we hit rock bottom yet?
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On October 05 2016 11:24 Netscape9 wrote:
"What is the role faith has played in your lives?"
Wow, what is wrong with this country? What does that have to do with policy?
Well tbf the question was about conflicts between the two. There's a reason he went with the death penalty instead of abortion too.
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On October 05 2016 11:24 Netscape9 wrote:
"What is the role faith has played in your lives?"
Wow, what is wrong with this country? What does that have to do with policy?
nothing; I'd also consider it unethical and illegal to ask such a question.
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