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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43251 Posts
October 05 2016 02:30 GMT
#106721
That's a gotcha right there. Pence didn't even try to deny the "women should be punished for abortions" thing, just went straight on to "he's not a polished politician". Scripture quote was good too.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
October 05 2016 02:30 GMT
#106722
On October 05 2016 11:28 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:26 Netscape9 wrote:
Pence pandering to the anti-abortion crowd. Ugghhhh.

What's a way to agree with people who support you that's not pandering?

Question was largely unrelated to abortion, he took it that route.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 05 2016 02:31 GMT
#106723
On October 05 2016 11:30 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:28 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On October 05 2016 11:27 Netscape9 wrote:
"I try to spend a little time on my knees everyday."

Hue hue hue hue.


I thought that too. Meme fodder.

who said it?

pence
© Current year.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 02:32:08
October 05 2016 02:31 GMT
#106724
On October 05 2016 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
My god, Kaine. Trump did not say he's in favor of punishing women for abortion.


What? Yes he did said he would consider it. He has rambled a ton of random shit that I know we all have trouble keeping track but yes he did.
Never Knows Best.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 05 2016 02:31 GMT
#106725
Did Trump actually say that women should be punished for abortions?
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5768 Posts
October 05 2016 02:32 GMT
#106726
At any rate this is the first and probably last murmur of pro life for the whole campaign.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 05 2016 02:32 GMT
#106727
On October 05 2016 11:31 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
My god, Kaine. Trump did not say he's in favor of punishing women for abortion.


What? Yes he did said he would consider it.

He was asked whether he'd be in favor of criminal penalties for abortion if abortion were made illegal, and he said yes, because he's a law and order candidate. In other words, he answered a stupid hypothetical.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 05 2016 02:32 GMT
#106728
On October 05 2016 11:31 plasmidghost wrote:
Did Trump actually say that women should be punished for abortions?

sorta yes. he obviously hadn't seriously thought about the issue and was kinda guessing that was the correct answer for the crowd he was talking to.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43251 Posts
October 05 2016 02:32 GMT
#106729
Pence was doing so well. Why the hell did he bring his abortion stance front and centre? Pence has a shitty record there with women after his suppression of abortion in Indiana.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 05 2016 02:32 GMT
#106730
On October 05 2016 11:28 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:26 Plansix wrote:
On October 05 2016 11:04 KwarK wrote:
On October 05 2016 11:03 Plansix wrote:
On October 05 2016 11:02 Dan HH wrote:
Pence really said Putin is a better leader than Obama?

Putin is white after all.

So he is an American citizen?

Seems accurate. I bet that there are voters that would accept Putin as president if he replaced Obama. Bet the venn diagram for that group and republicans is a fucking circle.

not cool man, not cool. don't be so hyperbolic.

You are right, it wouldn't be a circle. The overlap would be strong.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
October 05 2016 02:33 GMT
#106731
I'm extremely pro-choice and agree with Kaine here, but I don't think it's fair or honest for him to attack Republicans as "wanting to punish women." That's nonsense. Their policies are extremely misguided and based on religion, but they don't hate women and that's not why they support heavily regulating or even banning abortion.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9137 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 02:33:47
October 05 2016 02:33 GMT
#106732
On October 05 2016 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
My god, Kaine. Trump did not say he's in favor of punishing women for abortion.

Yes he did, reluctantly but he did

Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 05 2016 02:33 GMT
#106733
That anti-abbortion back and forth is going to make them lose vote if people are watching
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
October 05 2016 02:34 GMT
#106734
On October 05 2016 11:31 plasmidghost wrote:
Did Trump actually say that women should be punished for abortions?


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us/politics/donald-trump-abortion.html

Yup. xDaunt has a selective memory.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
October 05 2016 02:34 GMT
#106735
On October 05 2016 11:32 KwarK wrote:
Pence was doing so well. Why the hell did he bring his abortion stance front and centre? Pence has a shitty record there with women after his suppression of abortion in Indiana.

I suspect a lot more old people watch the televized debates than young people. He wants the evangelical vote, a lot of whom stayed at home in 2012.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 05 2016 02:34 GMT
#106736
On October 05 2016 11:32 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:31 Slaughter wrote:
On October 05 2016 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
My god, Kaine. Trump did not say he's in favor of punishing women for abortion.


What? Yes he did said he would consider it.

He was asked whether he'd be in favor of criminal penalties for abortion if abortion were made illegal, and he said yes, because he's a law and order candidate. In other words, he answered a stupid hypothetical.


How many years of law school did it take to come up with that response lol. This isn't a hypothetical criminalising abortion is on the agenda
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 05 2016 02:34 GMT
#106737
On October 05 2016 11:32 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:31 Slaughter wrote:
On October 05 2016 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
My god, Kaine. Trump did not say he's in favor of punishing women for abortion.


What? Yes he did said he would consider it.

He was asked whether he'd be in favor of criminal penalties for abortion if abortion were made illegal, and he said yes, because he's a law and order candidate. In other words, he answered a stupid hypothetical.

Wanting to make them illegal is the same as punishing women for having abortions...
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 05 2016 02:34 GMT
#106738
On October 05 2016 11:33 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
My god, Kaine. Trump did not say he's in favor of punishing women for abortion.

Yes he did, reluctantly but he did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Jpoecf0xY

Listen to the question that Matthews asked.
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
October 05 2016 02:35 GMT
#106739
On October 05 2016 11:33 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
My god, Kaine. Trump did not say he's in favor of punishing women for abortion.

Yes he did, reluctantly but he did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Jpoecf0xY


Punish them for breaking the law, not for being women though.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43251 Posts
October 05 2016 02:35 GMT
#106740
On October 05 2016 11:34 Netscape9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 11:32 KwarK wrote:
Pence was doing so well. Why the hell did he bring his abortion stance front and centre? Pence has a shitty record there with women after his suppression of abortion in Indiana.

I suspect a lot more old people watch the televized debates than young people. He wants the evangelical vote, a lot of whom stayed at home in 2012.

Except it's going to be a 30 second soundbite everywhere in the next 24 hours. And one good gotcha is all Kaine needed because nobody is going to care about the rest.
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