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On August 07 2016 05:14 Toadesstern wrote:

yeah not really getting part either. I'd assume it's supposed to hammer the message home really good or something like that.
Saying they'd rather have you vote for Hillary as a statement is a lot stronger comming from a Republican high profile guy than saying you should vote 3rd party.

On August 07 2016 05:16 LegalLord wrote:
I've heard before that the major reason (or at least one of the most important reasons) that Trump is opposed by "the establishment" (as opposed to Republican voters in general) is his foreign policy. If that's the main reason then supporting HRC makes perfect sense.

On August 07 2016 05:58 zlefin wrote:
I don't think Johnson is as much of a joke to assume office as Trump is; while he has some issues, i'd say johnson is at least somewhat capable of the office.

When it comes to global climate change, Johnson and Weld believe that the politicians in Washington, D.C. are having the wrong debate.

Is the climate changing? Probably so.

Is man contributing to that change? Probably so.

But the critical question is whether the politicians’ efforts to regulate, tax and manipulate the private sector are cost-effective – or effective at all. The debate should be about how we can protect our resources and environment for future generations. Governors Johnson and Weld strongly believe that the federal government should prevent future harm by focusing on regulations that protect us from real harm, rather than needlessly costing American jobs and freedom in order to pursue a political agenda.

JANESVILLE, Wis. — House Speaker Paul D. Ryan’s red-brick Georgian revival house in this tree-lined, kid-filled Midwestern neighborhood has long been his “refuge,” as his wife calls it, from the divisive world of politics. But no more — not in this Donald Trump-fueled, anger-filled year for a Republican Party leader facing a primary challenge.

Fuming activists have inched close to the Wisconsin congressman’s property several times as part of protests that have drawn the notice of the U.S. Capitol Police detail that watches his residence. A nearby billboard has portrayed Ryan as soft on terrorism. At one sidewalk standoff, his primary opponent — Paul Nehlen, a 47-year-old businessman with tattooed biceps and a deep affinity for Trump — cast Ryan’s backyard fence as an elitist barricade that protects the speaker while his constituents are exposed to the dangers of illegal immigration.

“You should tear down your wall and show everyone that you will live under the same conditions as they do,” Nehlen declared last month as his backers, in matching navy blue T-shirts, stood in front of Ryan’s bushes. They nodded solemnly as he called Ryan a tool of “corporate masters.”

Perhaps the most unsettling moment came when a group of mothers whose children had been killed by illegal immigrants staked out Ryan’s home while he was inside and tried to confront him with poster-size images of the deceased. Breitbart News, the conservative outlet that has extensively chronicled Nehlen’s bid, wrote that “Ryan and members of his security detail fled from his guarded estate” after he was spotted slamming a door on his porch.

A blurry picture of the departing motorcade was pasted on the website alongside the article, which has drawn thousands of comments, nearly all of them harshly critical of Ryan.

This is the bracing new reality for the speaker. Though he is expected to easily win on Aug. 9, Ryan and most Republican leaders find themselves caught in an incendiary populist vortex that is unrelenting in its animus toward seasoned elected officials, in particular those like Ryan who have encouraged bipartisan immigration reform.

On August 07 2016 04:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
As if we needed a millionth reason to vote against Trump/Pence, it looks like Pence pushes for Creationism to be taught in public schools' science classrooms; the video of him speaking repeatedly shows him misusing the word [scientific] "theory" and him having basically no understanding of evolution or science. Sigh. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/abletochoose/2016/08/mike-pence-evolution/

On August 07 2016 08:25 GreenHorizons wrote:


No you must be wrong, Creationism being taught in school is not something Republicans are big on, Introvert made that very clear to me. Surely someone wanting creationism taught in public school science classrooms couldn't possibly be in the potential Republican VP slot. Or perhaps the Republican is as assbackwards as I've been saying for years?

On August 07 2016 08:32 Introvert wrote:


I never denied they existed, and they clearly have influence in certain localities.

On August 07 2016 08:41 GreenHorizons wrote:


Like potential VP of the entire US "localities"?

On August 07 2016 08:44 Introvert wrote:


Let me know when he starts running on it.

On August 07 2016 08:51 Plansix wrote:

They don't run on it. They just get elected and then inflict it on whatever states they can. No one runs on making voter ID laws that target blacks, they just passed the laws once they are in office.

Its this top secret plan of the GOP, they don't say they are going to do shitty things during the election season. No one is running on the "Defund PP and teach bible in school" platform.

On August 07 2016 09:40 Introvert wrote:


There is so much in this short post, but I will just say it's really funny you equate defunding PP with "teaching Bible in school" (which i take to mean creationism generally.

Edit: and people do run on defunding pp

At the Green Party national convention in Houston, Bernie Sanders may have been mentioned more often so far than the party's own presumptive nominee, Dr. Jill Stein.

The progressive third party has a rare opportunity to expand their reach by picking off disaffected supporters of the Vermont senator. The group had planned to have about 250 people at their quadrennial gathering, but organizers said in the past few weeks interest exploded and that now more than 500 people are expected.

An opening reception Thursday evening featured a speech from Yahne Ndgo, a vocal "Bernie or Bust" supporter who has now found a home in the Green Party. She said the Democratic National Committee rigged the Democratic primary in favor of Hillary Clinton.

"Are you going to try and go inside there and reform this party that has demonstrated in every way, with every opportunity, that they really do not give a flying f*** about one thing that you care about?" Ndgo said to rousing applause. "Or are you going to open up your mind to the possibility that there is something in place, a national organization that's already in place that actually wants to hear from and represent your needs, your interests and your leadership? To me, it's not a hard decision."

Margaret Flowers, who's running on the Green Party line for Senate in Maryland, said the primary purpose of the weekend was to officially nominate Stein and her running mate, Ajamu Baraka, Saturday afternoon. But she acknowledged at a press conference Thursday that the gathering was also a chance for disaffected Sanders supporters to hopefully find a new home.

"It's an opportunity for Greens to be together and for new people to learn about the Green Party and our values," Flowers said. "I think the new people will find the GNC is very different from the RNC or the DNC. We're real people. We're people who really care."

Andrea Mérida Cuéllar, one of the party's national co-chairs, said the current election was "unprecedented" and that the "shenanigans" in Philadelphia at the Democratic National Convention had sparked new interest in their decades-old party.