US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4664

On August 06 2016 09:46 oBlade wrote:
It was probably precipitated by this, not any intervention: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/05/ted-cruz-refuses-endorse-paul-ryan-congress/

On August 06 2016 10:44 Introvert wrote:
Leave to the GOP and Reince to finally force (probably threaten) Trump to get his act together because he refused to endorse some people, LOL. Not any of the other insane things he has said or done. No, personal slights to favorite sons is what pushes them over the edge.




Ryan didn't ask, plus these two will be running in four years. So there's that. I admire that Scott Walker went all in for Cruz despite knowing that they both might run again.

On August 06 2016 08:11 GreenHorizons wrote:


To both your and Moh's point, sometimes that's easier said than done. Like the medical industry and medical science aren't always aligned. That's why I used the cannabis example in the first place.

Point being that sometimes medicine isn't considered "medicine" not because it's not "medicine", but because people don't want it to be seen as medicine. Cannabis is just one we can follow pretty well along it's path to becoming medicine (even if Hillary doesn't believe it yet).

On August 06 2016 08:17 GreenHorizons wrote:


When do you think cannabis went from being "alternative medicine" to being "medicine"?

things like homeopathy which by definition cannot contain any active ingredient

On August 06 2016 13:03 m4ini wrote:


Huh?

That's not the definition i know, or in fact the one that wikipedia gives you. It's quite nonsense.

Not that i'm necessarily disagreeing with what you're saying, but that's wrong. Doesn't really make it better though, from experience with my small "contacts" to homeopaths in regards to my cluster headaches. It quite literally boiled down to eating flowers.

Three main logarithmic potency scales are in regular use in homeopathy. Hahnemann created the "centesimal" or "C scale", diluting a substance by a factor of 100 at each stage. The centesimal scale was favored by Hahnemann for most of his life.

A 2C dilution requires a substance to be diluted to one part in 100, and then some of that diluted solution diluted by a further factor of 100.

This works out to one part of the original substance in 10,000 parts of the solution.[85] A 6C dilution repeats this process six times, ending up with the original substance diluted by a factor of 100−6=10−12 (one part in one trillion or 1/1,000,000,000,000). Higher dilutions follow the same pattern.

In homeopathy, a solution that is more dilute is described as having a higher "potency", and more dilute substances are considered by homeopaths to be stronger and deeper-acting.[86] The end product is often so diluted as to be indistinguishable from the diluent (pure water, sugar or alcohol).[10][87][88] There is also a decimal potency scale (notated as "X" or "D") in which the preparation is diluted by a factor of 10 at each stage.[89]

Hahnemann advocated 30C dilutions for most purposes (that is, dilution by a factor of 1060).[9] Hahnemann regularly used potencies up to 300C but opined that "there must be a limit to the matter, it cannot go on indefinitely".[41]:322

In Hahnemann's time, it was reasonable to assume the preparations could be diluted indefinitely, as the concept of the atom or molecule as the smallest possible unit of a chemical substance was just beginning to be recognized.

The greatest dilution reasonably likely to contain even one molecule of the original substance is 12C.

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — Hillary Clinton is crushing Donald Trump in Michigan and Wisconsin. Yet her running mate Tim Kaine is here anyway, barnstorming the industrial Midwest to shore up support among the white, working-class voters that the Republican nominee desperately needs to win.

Clinton and Kaine are backing off in Colorado and Virginia, pausing ad buys where demographics are tilting the race away from Trump. But Trump is threatening a serious play for voters in this part of the country with visits to Wisconsin Friday and Michigan on Monday — including this city in conservative Western Michigan where the state may be lost and won, top officials in both parties say.

Trump’s claim to expanding the political map rests squarely on his ability to woo blue-collar Democrats. And Kaine — a devoted Catholic father of three who grew up in the Kansas City suburbs — was chosen in part to strengthen the ticket among just these kinds of voters. So far, he’s hammered away at Trump as an outsourcing “you’re fired” candidate with no real policy prescriptions, meticulously explaining Clinton’s plan of building new infrastructure and investing in education.

Attendees at his events in the Rust Belt received him warmly Friday, but some said they were mostly here out of enthusiasm for Clinton rather than Kaine, who remains an unknown in this part of the country.

Clinton’s backers admit to being slightly nervous about how Michigan could play out, and to a lesser extent, Wisconsin. Clinton lost both states to Bernie Sanders in the primary — so Kaine’s Friday visit and a reported swing through Michigan next week by Clinton shows that Democrats aren’t taking any chances as Trump counters their presence with appearances of his own.

I'm sorry that your homeopath is deceiving you by giving you actual things instead of the water that you paid for. Clearly you need to find a more trustworthy charlatan and they need to go back to dilution school.

The process of homeopathic dilution results in no objectively detectable active ingredient in most cases, but some preparations (e.g. calendula and arnica creams) do contain pharmacologically active doses.

On August 06 2016 19:39 m4ini wrote:


He's not "my homeopath". But i promise you, if you have a condition as painful as cluster headaches, you grasp every straw. Didn't pay anything btw.

Also, from the same page:

When it comes to America’s military allies, Donald Trump told rally attendees on Friday, “You always have to be prepared to walk.”

Likening military negotiations to his history of business deals, the Republican presidential nominee once again criticized NATO and other military alliances in which he said the U.S. bears too much of the financial burden. In an interview last month with The New York Times, Trump said the U.S. should not come to the defense of its NATO allies if those nations are not meeting their financial contributions to the treaty organization.

At a rally Friday in Des Moines, Iowa, Trump once again said the U.S. should rethink how its military interacts with international partners.

“You always have to be prepared to walk,” Trump said. “You know, Hillary Clinton came out and said, ‘That’s terrible. He’s not going to stick with our allies.’ We’re going to stick, but once the ally hears her dumb talk, because it’s dumb, why would they ever pay?”

“Let’s say somebody like Hillary Clinton makes this statement, ‘We will never abandon our allies.’ I think those statements are beautiful. I think they’re great,” Trump said. “One problem: When you go in and say, ‘We will never ever abandon you, but you have to pay us more money,’ they’re going to say, ‘We’re not going to pay you more money if you’re not going to abandon us.’ You always have to be prepared to walk. I don’t think we’d walk. I don’t think it’s going to be necessary. It could be, though.”

Trump’s earlier statements about NATO came amid the Republican National Convention in Cleveland and were nearly unanimously condemned even by members of his own party. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), a military veteran who has since said he will not vote for Trump, called the Manhattan billionaire’s foreign policy proposals “narcissistic” and “utterly disastrous.” Kinzinger took particular offense to Trump’s suggestion that American soldiers are "some kind of a protection racket that has to be paid to protect our allies, or I’m some kind of a mercenary force.”

At Friday’s rally, Trump highlighted America’s military alliance with Japan as an agreement particularly worthy of ridicule. He said that Japan, a key U.S. ally in the Pacific, should be forced to pay 100 percent of America’s military costs for protecting the island nation, not the roughly 50 percent it pays now.

“You know, we have a treaty with Japan where if Japan is attacked, we have to use the full force and might of the United States,” Trump said. “If we’re attacked, Japan doesn’t have to do anything. They can sit home and watch Sony television. No. What kind of deals are these? Folks, I’m being serious: What kind of deals are these?”