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On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong.
Shouldn't people be reacting to what is actually in the leaked emails instead of unsubstantial claims that the boogie man uncovered it?
You sound like a Scooby Doo villain saying 'and she would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky Russians'.
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On July 26 2016 23:48 Evotroid wrote:
So after the nostalgic Colbert report sketch I just remembered how good were the times, when he did not have to pretend impartiality and could blast the right unhindered.
It also reminded me, I always wanted to ask here, but never got to it:
What are some good comedians / shows, that have a right wing bias, or that the conservative people of the US also approve as "impartial" ?
AM radio
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On July 26 2016 23:47 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:37 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 26 2016 23:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. It is a big deal in the real world, but on the internet people are still pretending that the DMC must have fixed the primary despite the fact that Putin is leaking all of their emails to try to get trump elected and nothing even hinted at fixing the primary (plus the whole 3 million vote win for Clinton) I love how stuff like Clinton illegally campaigning outside of a voting location is a wild conspiracy, but the Russians working to get Trump elected gets swallowed whole by Hillary's camp. Except Clinton wasn't illegally campaigning lol.And there is actual evidence that the Russians are behind the hacking, unlike the various pro Bernie conspiracies. People like you deserve a Trump presidency
Bill probably was a few feet closer to the building than he was meant to be but it's not really comparable to a hostile state directly intervening in the political process.
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On July 26 2016 23:53 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:48 Evotroid wrote:
So after the nostalgic Colbert report sketch I just remembered how good were the times, when he did not have to pretend impartiality and could blast the right unhindered.
It also reminded me, I always wanted to ask here, but never got to it:
What are some good comedians / shows, that have a right wing bias, or that the conservative people of the US also approve as "impartial" ? The closest thing to a conservative comedian over here comes down to Blue Collar Comedy Tour and Dennis Miller lol. It seems like American conservatives are generally not very funny, at least not intentionally 
or certain people are just more easily amused. I've never found any political comedian to be even remotely funny. Colbert is probably the closest thing to it.
The daily show was garbage, as is john oliver.
Anything pandering to southerners is terrible.
That about sums it up.
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On July 26 2016 23:47 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:37 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 26 2016 23:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. It is a big deal in the real world, but on the internet people are still pretending that the DMC must have fixed the primary despite the fact that Putin is leaking all of their emails to try to get trump elected and nothing even hinted at fixing the primary (plus the whole 3 million vote win for Clinton) I love how stuff like Clinton illegally campaigning outside of a voting location is a wild conspiracy, but the Russians working to get Trump elected gets swallowed whole by Hillary's camp. Except Clinton wasn't illegally campaigning lol.And there is actual evidence that the Russians are behind the hacking, unlike the various pro Bernie conspiracies. People like you deserve a Trump presidency
He absolutely was, eventually even plansix acknowledged they elected not to prosecute, which is entirely different than not breaking the law.
I remember because I provided far more evidence than there is that Russia leaked DNC emails to help Trump win.
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On July 26 2016 23:48 Evotroid wrote:
So after the nostalgic Colbert report sketch I just remembered how good were the times, when he did not have to pretend impartiality and could blast the right unhindered.
It also reminded me, I always wanted to ask here, but never got to it:
What are some good comedians / shows, that have a right wing bias, or that the conservative people of the US also approve as "impartial" ?
Conservatives don't get their news from comedians.
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On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong.
I suspect there's three reasons people aren't reacting:
1) They're not hearing about it through their personal media pipeline.
2) They don't view it as a red flag because they buy into some measure of the Putin-love Trump pushes despite his other statements on Russia.
3) They believe the "experts" are having their opinions fabricated by a leftist (if conservative) or pro-Clinton (if a former Sanders supporter turned Clinton hater) agenda.
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Bill was to close for sure. I also don’t think it has any substantive effect on the vote over all. And I know exactly where he was. He would have had to been standing this weird field or right in a parking lot to avoid being to close. So he stood on the sidewalk to old people could talk to him.
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On July 26 2016 23:58 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:48 Evotroid wrote:
So after the nostalgic Colbert report sketch I just remembered how good were the times, when he did not have to pretend impartiality and could blast the right unhindered.
It also reminded me, I always wanted to ask here, but never got to it:
What are some good comedians / shows, that have a right wing bias, or that the conservative people of the US also approve as "impartial" ? Conservatives don't get their news from comedians.
They rely on quality outlets instead.
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On July 26 2016 23:58 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:48 Evotroid wrote:
So after the nostalgic Colbert report sketch I just remembered how good were the times, when he did not have to pretend impartiality and could blast the right unhindered.
It also reminded me, I always wanted to ask here, but never got to it:
What are some good comedians / shows, that have a right wing bias, or that the conservative people of the US also approve as "impartial" ? Conservatives don't get their news from comedians.
Fox News isn’t some weird type of performance art?
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And heres much more solid proof than he was maybe a few feet too close to the polling station, maybe
www.nbcnews.com How does it feel that you're hatred of a politician who agrees with like 95% of what your chosen canidate wants has lead you to support a guy who is against everything you stand for and is supported by enemy states?
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On July 27 2016 00:00 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. I suspect there's three reasons people aren't reacting: 1) They're not hearing about it through their personal media pipeline. 2) They don't view it as a red flag because they buy into some measure of the Putin-love Trump pushes despite his other statements on Russia. 3) They believe all the "experts" are having their opinions fabricated by a leftist or pro-Clinton agenda.
How about 4) They understand that the real story is in the content of the emails?
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On July 27 2016 00:01 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:58 zeo wrote:On July 26 2016 23:48 Evotroid wrote:
So after the nostalgic Colbert report sketch I just remembered how good were the times, when he did not have to pretend impartiality and could blast the right unhindered.
It also reminded me, I always wanted to ask here, but never got to it:
What are some good comedians / shows, that have a right wing bias, or that the conservative people of the US also approve as "impartial" ? Conservatives don't get their news from comedians. Fox News isn’t some weird type of performance art?
I tried to get them to rename their slogan to fair and balanced like plansix
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On July 27 2016 00:03 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 00:00 TheTenthDoc wrote:On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. I suspect there's three reasons people aren't reacting: 1) They're not hearing about it through their personal media pipeline. 2) They don't view it as a red flag because they buy into some measure of the Putin-love Trump pushes despite his other statements on Russia. 3) They believe all the "experts" are having their opinions fabricated by a leftist or pro-Clinton agenda. How about 4) They understand that the real story is in the content of the emails?
I get you don't want attention to be diverted from the content of the emails but I find it hard to believe you wouldn't think Russian intervention in our election is a big deal.
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On July 26 2016 23:48 Evotroid wrote:
So after the nostalgic Colbert report sketch I just remembered how good were the times, when he did not have to pretend impartiality and could blast the right unhindered.
It also reminded me, I always wanted to ask here, but never got to it:
What are some good comedians / shows, that have a right wing bias, or that the conservative people of the US also approve as "impartial" ?
I'm trying to come up with some conservative comedians, and it's really hard. The closest I can come up with is blue collar "you might be a redneck" stuff with Jeff Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy, which is really more of a parody of some conservative voters, rather than it truly being representative of all Republicans.
Comedy is a very liberal area, mostly because if they're going to use politics in their stand-up, it's going to be generally based on social policies. It's a lot easier to make jokes about how stupid and insensitive socially conservative policies are (e.g., screwing over the gays, anything that GWB or Trump says, etc.) than it is to create a joke about something requiring a bit more know-how and research, like the economy. Although that being said, I know a bunch of comedians who also find it easy to make fun of Republicans for their climate change denial and vaccine opposition, so maybe there's a broader spectrum of comedic material than I'm giving them credit for. Plus, Jon Stewart and Colbert and other hosts can pretty much poke fun at everything and anything.
Edit: Plenty of conservatives thought that Colbert's fake conservative persona was actually real, which is amazing. That's what happens when you just repeat stuff Fox News says and just sound more hilarious while doing it.
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On July 27 2016 00:03 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 00:00 TheTenthDoc wrote:On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. I suspect there's three reasons people aren't reacting: 1) They're not hearing about it through their personal media pipeline. 2) They don't view it as a red flag because they buy into some measure of the Putin-love Trump pushes despite his other statements on Russia. 3) They believe all the "experts" are having their opinions fabricated by a leftist or pro-Clinton agenda. How about 4) They understand that the real story is in the content of the emails?
How is a nation that is blatantly hostile to American interests trying to influence a election not a huge story?
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The South park people are the closest to conservative comedians still active. Bill Hicks was a very good libertarian comic, but he was hardly a conservative.
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On July 27 2016 00:06 Nevuk wrote:
The South park people are the closest to conservative comedians still active.
You clearly haven't seen The Book of Mormon then lol. (Strongly recommend it!)
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On July 27 2016 00:06 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 00:03 xDaunt wrote:On July 27 2016 00:00 TheTenthDoc wrote:On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. I suspect there's three reasons people aren't reacting: 1) They're not hearing about it through their personal media pipeline. 2) They don't view it as a red flag because they buy into some measure of the Putin-love Trump pushes despite his other statements on Russia. 3) They believe all the "experts" are having their opinions fabricated by a leftist or pro-Clinton agenda. How about 4) They understand that the real story is in the content of the emails? How is a nation that is blatantly hostile to American interests trying to influence a election not a huge story?
It is. It just isn’t a full story yet. It needs time to develop.
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On July 27 2016 00:04 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 00:03 xDaunt wrote:On July 27 2016 00:00 TheTenthDoc wrote:On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. I suspect there's three reasons people aren't reacting: 1) They're not hearing about it through their personal media pipeline. 2) They don't view it as a red flag because they buy into some measure of the Putin-love Trump pushes despite his other statements on Russia. 3) They believe all the "experts" are having their opinions fabricated by a leftist or pro-Clinton agenda. How about 4) They understand that the real story is in the content of the emails? I get you don't want attention to be diverted from the content of the emails but I find it hard to believe you wouldn't think Russian intervention in our election is a big deal.
By the time the media admits they have no evidence of Russia's involvement the emails will be old news (to the people with short attention spans).
How convenient. But there are still many more email dumps to go, wonder what they will come up with next time 
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