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On July 26 2016 23:11 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
come back to 300 posts and 150 of them are plansix shitposting lol
Do you have a job or are you paid to do this? I understand that that's hyperbole, but do you think all he does is shitpost? If anything, plasmidghost was the shitposter, considering he was just trolling and pasting stupid Reddit one-liners (that's what he said he was doing, anyway)  GGtemplar and plansix are the main shitposters. It wasnt hyperbole. Plansix had about 150 of the 300 posts, ggtemplar probably like 75-90. I felt like i was just reading them shitpost back and forth and everything else got drowned out. if anyone thinks either of them wasn't shitposting, sorry but you're in an echo chamber
Your feedback isn't even mildly constructive. You're just trying to post in a condescending way. Take it to pm if you have something to say to someone.
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On July 26 2016 23:16 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:11 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
come back to 300 posts and 150 of them are plansix shitposting lol
Do you have a job or are you paid to do this? I understand that that's hyperbole, but do you think all he does is shitpost? If anything, plasmidghost was the shitposter, considering he was just trolling and pasting stupid Reddit one-liners (that's what he said he was doing, anyway) GGtemplar and plansix are the main shitposters. It wasnt hyperbole. Plansix had about 150 of the 300 posts, ggtemplar probably like 75-90. I felt like i was just reading them shitpost back and forth and everything else got drowned out. if anyone thinks either of them wasn't shitposting, sorry but you're in an echo chamber Your feedback isn't even mildly constructive. You're just trying to post in a condescending way. Take it to pm if you have something to say to someone.
It's not condescending, what people did to me yesterday was condescending. They said this doesn't occur, that there's definitely not people that only talk favorably about one side and you can find constructive people here that view both sides, then I wake up to 300 posts with 2 posters making the majority of them and both obviously pandering to one side.
You don't see why im amused?
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I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong.
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On July 26 2016 23:24 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:16 Mohdoo wrote:On July 26 2016 23:11 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
come back to 300 posts and 150 of them are plansix shitposting lol
Do you have a job or are you paid to do this? I understand that that's hyperbole, but do you think all he does is shitpost? If anything, plasmidghost was the shitposter, considering he was just trolling and pasting stupid Reddit one-liners (that's what he said he was doing, anyway) GGtemplar and plansix are the main shitposters. It wasnt hyperbole. Plansix had about 150 of the 300 posts, ggtemplar probably like 75-90. I felt like i was just reading them shitpost back and forth and everything else got drowned out. if anyone thinks either of them wasn't shitposting, sorry but you're in an echo chamber Your feedback isn't even mildly constructive. You're just trying to post in a condescending way. Take it to pm if you have something to say to someone. It's not condescending, what people did to me yesterday was condescending. They said this doesn't occur, that there's definitely not people that only talk favorably about one side and you can find constructive people here that view both sides, then I wake up to 300 posts with 2 posters making the majority of them and both obviously pandering to one side. You don't see why im amused?
Literally no one ever claimed that there are no obviously biased posters here, are you amused because you're making things up and playing pretend is fun?
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On July 26 2016 23:24 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:16 Mohdoo wrote:On July 26 2016 23:11 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
come back to 300 posts and 150 of them are plansix shitposting lol
Do you have a job or are you paid to do this? I understand that that's hyperbole, but do you think all he does is shitpost? If anything, plasmidghost was the shitposter, considering he was just trolling and pasting stupid Reddit one-liners (that's what he said he was doing, anyway) GGtemplar and plansix are the main shitposters. It wasnt hyperbole. Plansix had about 150 of the 300 posts, ggtemplar probably like 75-90. I felt like i was just reading them shitpost back and forth and everything else got drowned out. if anyone thinks either of them wasn't shitposting, sorry but you're in an echo chamber Your feedback isn't even mildly constructive. You're just trying to post in a condescending way. Take it to pm if you have something to say to someone. It's not condescending, what people did to me yesterday was condescending. They said this doesn't occur, that there's definitely not people that only talk favorably about one side and you can find constructive people here that view both sides, then I wake up to 300 posts with 2 posters making the majority of them and both obviously pandering to one side. You don't see why im amused?
Regardless of why you are amused, this thread has been reminded numerous times to keep things on topic and to not drift into unsightly topics. These meta discussions where people try to figure out who posts well and who posts poorly are in really bad taste and reflect poorly on TL. The moderation staff has told us they would rather the thread not be around than for it to devolve into the type of discussion you are encouraging.
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On July 26 2016 23:24 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:16 Mohdoo wrote:On July 26 2016 23:11 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
come back to 300 posts and 150 of them are plansix shitposting lol
Do you have a job or are you paid to do this? I understand that that's hyperbole, but do you think all he does is shitpost? If anything, plasmidghost was the shitposter, considering he was just trolling and pasting stupid Reddit one-liners (that's what he said he was doing, anyway) GGtemplar and plansix are the main shitposters. It wasnt hyperbole. Plansix had about 150 of the 300 posts, ggtemplar probably like 75-90. I felt like i was just reading them shitpost back and forth and everything else got drowned out. if anyone thinks either of them wasn't shitposting, sorry but you're in an echo chamber Your feedback isn't even mildly constructive. You're just trying to post in a condescending way. Take it to pm if you have something to say to someone. It's not condescending, what people did to me yesterday was condescending. They said this doesn't occur, that there's definitely not people that only talk favorably about one side and you can find constructive people here that view both sides, then I wake up to 300 posts with 2 posters making the majority of them and both obviously pandering to one side. You don't see why im amused?
I have been in arguments with several people in this thread, but picking posters and publicly judging their contribution in this way is at best patronizing. Let people make their own opinion of other users' posting (and of yours).
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On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong.
It is a big deal in the real world, but on the internet people are still pretending that the DMC must have fixed the primary despite the fact that Putin is leaking all of their emails to try to get trump elected and nothing even hinted at fixing the primary (plus the whole 3 million vote win for Clinton)
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On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong.
I wonder that myself. I think people are waiting for a more complete picture and some response the FBI beyond “we suspect”. I also think it’s a really crazy, idea that people will need to wrap their minds around. That Russia might be actively trying to influence their vote by hacking the party they don’t want to win. I know I don’t know how to feel about that. If it should or would influence how I vote.
This is the opposite of the “instant outrage” stories we see so often. It’s a slow burn, but I think in the end people are going to be beyond pissed if it turns out to be mildly true.
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On July 26 2016 23:28 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:24 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:16 Mohdoo wrote:On July 26 2016 23:11 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
come back to 300 posts and 150 of them are plansix shitposting lol
Do you have a job or are you paid to do this? I understand that that's hyperbole, but do you think all he does is shitpost? If anything, plasmidghost was the shitposter, considering he was just trolling and pasting stupid Reddit one-liners (that's what he said he was doing, anyway) GGtemplar and plansix are the main shitposters. It wasnt hyperbole. Plansix had about 150 of the 300 posts, ggtemplar probably like 75-90. I felt like i was just reading them shitpost back and forth and everything else got drowned out. if anyone thinks either of them wasn't shitposting, sorry but you're in an echo chamber Your feedback isn't even mildly constructive. You're just trying to post in a condescending way. Take it to pm if you have something to say to someone. It's not condescending, what people did to me yesterday was condescending. They said this doesn't occur, that there's definitely not people that only talk favorably about one side and you can find constructive people here that view both sides, then I wake up to 300 posts with 2 posters making the majority of them and both obviously pandering to one side. You don't see why im amused? Literally no one ever claimed that there are no obviously biased posters here, are you amused because you're making things up and playing pretend is fun?
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This only shows that you have a very poor understanding of the left. First off, I am religious, pro-gun, very pro small business. I am not pro-union, not pro socialism and I am conflicted about a single payer plan due to the size of the US. I’m not a huge fan of federal regulation nationwide.
However, I am very anti-bank and multi-national publicly owned cooperation. And I am far left on social issues, including civil rights. But I am not way the most far left in this thread.
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yea im pretending alright, oh wait plansix tried to pass himself off as some guy that's on both sides just yesterday. I know he's one of your far left buddies so you gotta stick up for him but cmon now.
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Ambivalence is not antithetical to bias, you're committing a category error, bud. Dan HH explained it nicely yesterday, can't find his post now.
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On July 26 2016 23:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. It is a big deal in the real world, but on the internet people are still pretending that the DMC must have fixed the primary despite the fact that Putin is leaking all of their emails to try to get trump elected and nothing even hinted at fixing the primary (plus the whole 3 million vote win for Clinton)
I love how stuff like Clinton illegally campaigning outside of a voting location is a wild conspiracy, but the Russians working to get Trump elected gets swallowed whole by Hillary's camp.
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There are no sides. I’m one of the guys who talks about the rise of the left vs right narrative in the media and their efforts to turn political discourse into pro-wrestling/fantasy football. I don’t talk about “the right” at all. I talk about the GOP as a party or social conservatives as a sub group of that party.
But once again, please take it to PM. I'll talk about anything you like.
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On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong.
Maybe he wants to help Trump because he thinks Clinton is a very scary person for the rest of the world 
On July 26 2016 23:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. It is a big deal in the real world, but on the internet people are still pretending that the DMC must have fixed the primary despite the fact that Putin is leaking all of their emails to try to get trump elected and nothing even hinted at fixing the primary (plus the whole 3 million vote win for Clinton)
The problem with the word "fixed" is very similar to the problem with the word "conspiracy": people have very overt, direct action in mind. It does seem to me that the DNC actively tried to help Clinton in favor of Sanders. That doesnt amount to "fixed" in the sense of "fabricated votes", but it does amount to something that is very undemocratic.
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On July 26 2016 23:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:24 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:16 Mohdoo wrote:On July 26 2016 23:11 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
come back to 300 posts and 150 of them are plansix shitposting lol
Do you have a job or are you paid to do this? I understand that that's hyperbole, but do you think all he does is shitpost? If anything, plasmidghost was the shitposter, considering he was just trolling and pasting stupid Reddit one-liners (that's what he said he was doing, anyway) GGtemplar and plansix are the main shitposters. It wasnt hyperbole. Plansix had about 150 of the 300 posts, ggtemplar probably like 75-90. I felt like i was just reading them shitpost back and forth and everything else got drowned out. if anyone thinks either of them wasn't shitposting, sorry but you're in an echo chamber Your feedback isn't even mildly constructive. You're just trying to post in a condescending way. Take it to pm if you have something to say to someone. It's not condescending, what people did to me yesterday was condescending. They said this doesn't occur, that there's definitely not people that only talk favorably about one side and you can find constructive people here that view both sides, then I wake up to 300 posts with 2 posters making the majority of them and both obviously pandering to one side. You don't see why im amused? I have been in arguments with several people in this thread, but picking posters and publicly judging their contribution in this way is at best patronizing. Let people make their own opinion of other users' posting (and of yours).
This is exactly what Plansix does in like every thread lol altho he is often more subtle about it.
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On July 26 2016 23:40 NukeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:On July 26 2016 23:24 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:16 Mohdoo wrote:On July 26 2016 23:11 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 26 2016 23:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 26 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
come back to 300 posts and 150 of them are plansix shitposting lol
Do you have a job or are you paid to do this? I understand that that's hyperbole, but do you think all he does is shitpost? If anything, plasmidghost was the shitposter, considering he was just trolling and pasting stupid Reddit one-liners (that's what he said he was doing, anyway) GGtemplar and plansix are the main shitposters. It wasnt hyperbole. Plansix had about 150 of the 300 posts, ggtemplar probably like 75-90. I felt like i was just reading them shitpost back and forth and everything else got drowned out. if anyone thinks either of them wasn't shitposting, sorry but you're in an echo chamber Your feedback isn't even mildly constructive. You're just trying to post in a condescending way. Take it to pm if you have something to say to someone. It's not condescending, what people did to me yesterday was condescending. They said this doesn't occur, that there's definitely not people that only talk favorably about one side and you can find constructive people here that view both sides, then I wake up to 300 posts with 2 posters making the majority of them and both obviously pandering to one side. You don't see why im amused? I have been in arguments with several people in this thread, but picking posters and publicly judging their contribution in this way is at best patronizing. Let people make their own opinion of other users' posting (and of yours). This is exactly what Plansix does in like every thread lol.
I am guilty of that and I should work better to avoid it.
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On July 26 2016 23:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea im pretending alright, oh wait plansix tried to pass himself off as some guy that's on both sides just yesterday. I know he's one of your far left buddies so you gotta stick up for him but cmon now.
Let it go.. people get upset about lots of things every one has to say. Im sure you feel like you have to run a personal crusade to point how you've been unfairly treated and thats fine.
He didnt say he was on both sides, he said he wasnt far left. That means left, just not far left and that he has a range of views on certain issues.
Thats how you get someone who is slightly left or right of center and would be considered a moderate because no one realisticall falls smack bang in the middle of everything.
I too find myself to fall slightly left of center after I guage my views on most issues. No one is trying to pass them selves of as anything that comes through in their comments and discourse and is plain to see for everyone regardless of what they may claim themselves. Again let other people judge for themselves dont sit there and hand of judgements. Thats Drumpf speak.
And honestly no one cares how you describe peoples political leanings, what yours are and what the reasons for them are unless it is in the context of a particularly issue that ties into the larger debate of american politics or this election.
If you are so interested in sketching out the parameters of such categorizes. Right a blog.
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On July 26 2016 23:36 farvacola wrote:
Ambivalence is not antithetical to bias, you're committing a category error, bud. Dan HH explained it nicely yesterday, can't find his post now.
I already read that post and it's a terrible post. He's basically saying that you can watch solely fox news and then come back and then be like im totally a moderate guys. I'm social on liberal issues hehe! I just don't see any merit to anything the other side says though.
That's not being a moderate lol.
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On July 26 2016 23:37 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 23:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:On July 26 2016 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I am a bit surprised that people don't react a bit stronger at the fact that most experts think Russia is behind the DNC leak. The fact that Putin seems to be able to use his intelligence services to help Trump should be one hell of a huge red light for everyone.
I don't know, it seems huge to me, maybe I am wrong. It is a big deal in the real world, but on the internet people are still pretending that the DMC must have fixed the primary despite the fact that Putin is leaking all of their emails to try to get trump elected and nothing even hinted at fixing the primary (plus the whole 3 million vote win for Clinton) I love how stuff like Clinton illegally campaigning outside of a voting location is a wild conspiracy, but the Russians working to get Trump elected gets swallowed whole by Hillary's camp.
Except Clinton wasn't illegally campaigning lol.And there is actual evidence that the Russians are behind the hacking, unlike the various pro Bernie conspiracies. People like you deserve a Trump presidency
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So after the nostalgic Colbert report sketch I just remembered how good were the times, when he did not have to pretend impartiality and could blast the right unhindered.
It also reminded me, I always wanted to ask here, but never got to it:
What are some good comedians / shows, that have a right wing bias, or that the conservative people of the US also approve as "impartial" ?
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On July 26 2016 23:48 Evotroid wrote:
So after the nostalgic Colbert report sketch I just remembered how good were the times, when he did not have to pretend impartiality and could blast the right unhindered.
It also reminded me, I always wanted to ask here, but never got to it:
What are some good comedians / shows, that have a right wing bias, or that the conservative people of the US also approve as "impartial" ?
The closest thing to a conservative comedian over here comes down to Blue Collar Comedy Tour and Dennis Miller lol. It seems like American conservatives are generally not very funny, at least not intentionally 
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