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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 15 2016 23:59 GMT
#66621
On March 16 2016 08:58 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 08:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Expect a Rubio drop out message pretty soon:



He lost, and lost big. The question is, does he think he has better Convention chances than Kasich?


Too much failure stigma. Kasich has such better image associated with him at this point. It's Kasich.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
March 15 2016 23:59 GMT
#66622
On March 16 2016 08:49 Toadesstern wrote:
a LOT of people said the republicans would rather lose this general then have Trump nominated. Wether that's a bluff is another question

I wouldn't vote for Trump in the general and I'm registered republican. I'd vote for an independent if I found one worthy or I'd abstain. This is 100% not a bluff. I'm hoping for either Cruz to surge or a convention in which Trump loses. I personally like Kasich, but have no problem with Cruz.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 15 2016 23:59 GMT
#66623
Oh, what could have been for Rubio had he not joined the Gang of 8....
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
March 16 2016 00:00 GMT
#66624
On March 16 2016 08:58 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 08:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Expect a Rubio drop out message pretty soon:

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/709890346986180608


He lost, and lost big. The question is, does he think he has better Convention chances than Kasich?


I dont know the republican delagate math but if he thinks he can block more delegates from going to Trump by staying in then he might want to consider staying but if he thinks that staying in only helps Trump he should drop out because he clearly does not want Trump at any cost.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 16 2016 00:00 GMT
#66625
come on dude, cruz? really.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
March 16 2016 00:01 GMT
#66626
Florida called for Clinton and Trump.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 16 2016 00:02 GMT
#66627
On March 16 2016 08:58 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 08:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Expect a Rubio drop out message pretty soon:

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/709890346986180608


He lost, and lost big. The question is, does he think he has better Convention chances than Kasich?


Want to see Chaos have the establishment force Rubio with the nom a man who only one 1 state and two non voting territories and watch Trump and Cruz supporters walk.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 00:03:04
March 16 2016 00:02 GMT
#66628
On March 16 2016 08:59 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, what could have been for Rubio had he not joined the Gang of 8....


Everyone who worked with him said he was lazy and would shirk responsibilities to jump to the next higher office whenever he could. Fun stories about boy Rubes:

"Rubio left his first-ever elected position, on the West Miami City Commission, after one year to run for the Florida House.

He "landed one of 12 highly desired spots" on a post-9/11 Florida Legislature security committee only to miss six out of its 15 meetings.

Mike Fasano, a former Florida House majority leader, chose Rubio as one of his whips but says he showed up so rarely to strategy meetings that asking "Where's Rep. Rubio?" became a running joke.

Hialeah mayor and GOP "kingmaker" Raúl Martinez, one of the first people Rubio spoke to about becoming speaker of the Florida House, now says he "wouldn't support [Rubio] for dog catcher" because of a broken promise related to school funding.

Tony DiMatteo, a Florida Republican who conducted straw polls that gave Rubio's U.S. Senate campaign a crucial early PR boost, says Rubio failed to follow through on his promise to help DiMatteo become party chairman. DiMatteo has already cast a ballot for Trump.

A South Florida activist named Joyce Kaufman says Rubio's "lying" and "betrayal"—namely, having run for Senate as a Tea Party hard-liner and then co-sponsored the Gang of Eight immigration bill in Congress—has "cost him greatly."

Rubio actually bailed so early on the Gang of Eight bill that he didn't show up for the news conference when it passed the Senate. John McCain, a fellow Gang of Eight member, was reportedly disgusted by his public hedging on the bill.

A fundraising committee that Rubio set up in Florida to ostensibly help other candidates raised $386,000 but only gave out $4,000. The Times says a similar pattern pertained with a PAC Rubio set up when once he got to the U.S. Senate: "As he had years earlier while angling for House speaker, Rubio used much of the money for himself—giving less than $1 to candidates out of every $20 spent, according to an analysis by National Journal.""


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/14/marco_rubio_lazy_underhanded_say_ex_florida_friends.html
Dun tuch my cheezbrgr
Ravianna26
Profile Joined March 2013
United States44 Posts
March 16 2016 00:02 GMT
#66629
On March 16 2016 08:40 Sent. wrote:
Does Kasich have a chance if Rubio drops out or it's only between Cruz and Trump now?


At this point Kasich is running for Vice President under Donald Trump or Ted Cruz.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 16 2016 00:03 GMT
#66630
On March 16 2016 08:59 xDaunt wrote:
Oh, what could have been for Rubio had he not joined the Gang of 8....


Gang of 8 will be a good thing once things calm down and get back to normal. IMO he ran too early.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 16 2016 00:05 GMT
#66631
On March 16 2016 09:02 Ravianna26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 08:40 Sent. wrote:
Does Kasich have a chance if Rubio drops out or it's only between Cruz and Trump now?


At this point Kasich is running for Vice President under Donald Trump or Ted Cruz.


Kasich might have a pretty good chance at a contested convention, especially as I expect him to outperform Cruz in the states leading up to the convention.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 16 2016 00:06 GMT
#66632
On March 16 2016 05:37 SK.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 05:26 Doodsmack wrote:
On March 16 2016 05:11 SK.Testie wrote:
I think Trump's most definitely lying for political gain, but they all are proven liars...It's just what issues are most important to Americans right now.


It seems your argument has a tendency to change in response to the counter points from others. Before you said the others were decidedly sleazier than Trump. It appears to me you have such a preconceived opinion against the establishment and media that Trump is an outlet for people like you to just be defiant. In the process, as an informed political activist you make incredible sacrifices in the quality of your candidate (assuming you support Trump) in order to fight against the establishment and media.


It's not preconceived. It's from just living life listening to them for the last 15 years. You can literally tell when they go on the news and when they are openly lying. There's a long list of lies in the attacks on Trump and the really genuine set-up to paint him as something he's not very often. The people voting for him are the ones seeing through that.



If it's been your opinion for 15 years, built up and solidified, then it's preconceived coming into this election season. I don't think you responded to my point that Trump in and of himself, as a candidate, is of very poor quality. You're just saying the media lies about him which to me, shows your view on this election is driven by your preconceived opinion of the media.

Then again, you think that rounding up and deporting the illegals, and temporarily banning Muslims, are good ideas, which is just a disgrace. At best those are outlandish viewpoints. I really hope there are not enough white males like you to get Trump elected.

On the whole, the media has benefited Trump enormously, by giving him so much airtime. When the media is covering all of your rallies and conferences live, you can't really claim they are unfairly hurting you. The media is the lifeblood of his campaign.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 00:10:49
March 16 2016 00:09 GMT
#66633
Trump grabbed 44% of the Moderate vote in Florida, Jeez. It's over for Rubio.

In the South:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 16 2016 00:11 GMT
#66634
Time for Marco to throw in the towel.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 16 2016 00:13 GMT
#66635
Rubio speaking.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23491 Posts
March 16 2016 00:13 GMT
#66636
On March 16 2016 09:11 xDaunt wrote:
Time for Marco to throw in the towel.


Haha he's trying and can't even get through that without a Trump chant
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 00:14:19
March 16 2016 00:13 GMT
#66637
lol, that list of states might as well be the list of states most dependant on the federal teat
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 16 2016 00:14 GMT
#66638
On March 16 2016 09:13 farvacola wrote:
lol, that list of states is might as well also be the list of states most defendant on the federal teat

om nom nom
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 16 2016 00:14 GMT
#66639
Hey Marco! Where was this message 6 months ago?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 16 2016 00:14 GMT
#66640
Rubio is being heckled at his own event jesus
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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