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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 11 2016 03:19 GMT
#65401
Oh geez, this is going to be a cringeworthy question.
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trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
March 11 2016 03:19 GMT
#65402
On March 11 2016 12:18 AXygnus wrote:
The way Trump said "deal" some 15 times in a couple of minutes was annoying.


Maybe they should stop asking the same question over and over again?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 11 2016 03:19 GMT
#65403
On March 11 2016 12:18 AXygnus wrote:
The way Trump said "deal" some 15 times in a couple of minutes was annoying.

We need a president who wrote "The Art of the Deal."
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
March 11 2016 03:20 GMT
#65404
Is Rubio seriously denying climate change? Good lord, at least go center if you're gonna have no nuts the whole night.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 11 2016 03:20 GMT
#65405
On March 11 2016 12:20 Mohdoo wrote:
Is Rubio seriously denying climate change? Good lord, at least go center if you're gonna have no nuts the whole night.


All of them will.

Trump will say people are responsible for some of it.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
March 11 2016 03:20 GMT
#65406
On March 11 2016 12:19 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2016 12:18 AXygnus wrote:
The way Trump said "deal" some 15 times in a couple of minutes was annoying.


Maybe they should stop asking the same question over and over again?


Um, this is his answer to pretty much every policy question he's ever been asked.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 11 2016 03:21 GMT
#65407
On March 11 2016 12:12 oneofthem wrote:
developing new tech especially new paradigm (beyond visual range combat) is hard. it is a strategically important system if they can get it off the ground. the planners aren't morons

No one thinks otherwise. However, the government provides every incentive for defense companies to severely overcharge. The reason they get away with it is because that spending does create high-quality jobs, so state governments are willing to spend federal money to prop up defense jobs in their own states.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 11 2016 03:21 GMT
#65408
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 11 2016 03:23 GMT
#65409
On March 11 2016 12:20 Mohdoo wrote:
Is Rubio seriously denying climate change? Good lord, at least go center if you're gonna have no nuts the whole night.

he is really the face of political corruption.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-11 03:26:07
March 11 2016 03:25 GMT
#65410
All of them are so fucking shitty on foreign policy.

Germany is a disaster and Russia is doing well?
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trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
March 11 2016 03:26 GMT
#65411
On March 11 2016 12:20 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2016 12:19 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
On March 11 2016 12:18 AXygnus wrote:
The way Trump said "deal" some 15 times in a couple of minutes was annoying.


Maybe they should stop asking the same question over and over again?


Um, this is his answer to pretty much every policy question he's ever been asked.


No one forced them to invite him.


Btw, all 17 GOP candidates denied global warming.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 11 2016 03:27 GMT
#65412


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 11 2016 03:27 GMT
#65413
On March 11 2016 12:21 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2016 12:12 oneofthem wrote:
developing new tech especially new paradigm (beyond visual range combat) is hard. it is a strategically important system if they can get it off the ground. the planners aren't morons

No one thinks otherwise. However, the government provides every incentive for defense companies to severely overcharge. The reason they get away with it is because that spending does create high-quality jobs, so state governments are willing to spend federal money to prop up defense jobs in their own states.

it seems like a big developmental process problem, not necessarily nefarious.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 11 2016 03:27 GMT
#65414
Germany is a disaster?
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4908 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-11 03:28:05
March 11 2016 03:27 GMT
#65415
lol, Jake Tapper just gives Trump a look at moves on. lol

hm, think I'm 60 sec behind.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
March 11 2016 03:28 GMT
#65416
On March 11 2016 12:10 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2016 12:07 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On March 11 2016 12:06 LegalLord wrote:
American military technology is mind-bogglingly cost-inefficient. The F-35 is a plane with a ridiculous price tag, and the F-22 cost $340m a pop (total program cost divided by number of planes produced). Compare that to the $35m cost of modern Su, Mig, or Eurofighter planes which cost around $30 million a pop. Guess what? The F-22 is great but it simply isn't so good that it would beat 5-10 of those other planes in battle (or in effectiveness in completing missions). It is only moderately better than the others but extremely more expensive.

Other programs are similarly wasteful with some ridiculous perverse incentives that lead defense contractors to charge ridiculous amounts for their military technology.


I agree, the US military is inefficient, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't need to be expanded. The US keeps buying planes instead of focusing on other technology that might be needed in dirty ground battle.

All of the US technology is pretty inefficient, it's just planes that get the most attention. The US needs to stop buying stupidly expensive technology that is worth 10% of what it actually costs. Cut out the incentives that make it that way and it will allow huge cost savings, and even will allow the military to be expanded in the right ways if it needs to be done.


Its inefficient because the tech level is so high. Its diminishing returns and we have long past the point where increases in technology can be done in a cost efficient manner,
Never Knows Best.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 11 2016 03:28 GMT
#65417
How the fuck are you going to stop another country, especially the #2 economy in the world, from manipulating their currency? It's been a staple of their economics for 50 years.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 11 2016 03:28 GMT
#65418
On March 11 2016 12:27 Plansix wrote:
Germany is a disaster?


They're holding all of Europe on their back, I think that's what Trump is getting at.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 11 2016 03:29 GMT
#65419
On March 11 2016 12:28 Jibba wrote:
How the fuck are you going to stop another country, especially the #2 economy in the world, from manipulating their currency? It's been a staple of their economics for 50 years.

magical taxes on imports that are not tariffs.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 11 2016 03:29 GMT
#65420
On March 11 2016 12:28 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2016 12:27 Plansix wrote:
Germany is a disaster?


They're holding all of Europe on their back, I think that's what Trump is getting at.


On March 11 2016 12:28 Jibba wrote:
How the fuck are you going to stop another country, especially the #2 economy in the world, from manipulating their currency? It's been a staple of their economics for 50 years.


If 20% of China's exports are to US, I think they can have some influence - as well as if the US can convince some of the EU groups to not stand up for this.
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