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LegalLord
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On March 11 2016 11:54 -NegativeZero- wrote: trump: "to defeat those evil murdering terrorists, we have to sink to their level" To be fair, sometimes you really do. The inability to accept collateral damage and the inability to destroy supply lines that feed terrorists (e.g. ISIS oil trucks) makes it very hard to actually deal with them. | ||
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Mohdoo
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FiWiFaKi
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To prepare for the unexpected. China and Russia are both gaining strength and power, ISIS, Pakistan, and NK could do weird things.... and maintaining stability in the world is important. The US military is not prepared for any larger world conflict that could erupt. | ||
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Slaughter
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LegalLord
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Other programs are similarly wasteful with some ridiculous perverse incentives that lead defense contractors to charge ridiculous amounts for their military technology. | ||
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Mohdoo
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Rubio giving props to Bernie. Is he just wanting this whole campaign thing to finish up so he can write a book? | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On March 11 2016 12:06 LegalLord wrote: American military technology is mind-bogglingly cost-inefficient. The F-35 is a plane with a ridiculous price tag, and the F-22 cost $340m a pop (total program cost divided by number of planes produced). Compare that to the $35m cost of modern Su, Mig, or Eurofighter planes which cost around $30 million a pop. Guess what? The F-22 is great but it simply isn't so good that it would beat 5-10 of those other planes in battle (or in effectiveness in completing missions). It is only moderately better than the others but extremely more expensive. Other programs are similarly wasteful with some ridiculous perverse incentives that lead defense contractors to charge ridiculous amounts for their military technology. I agree, the US military is inefficient, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't need to be expanded. The US keeps buying planes instead of focusing on other technology that might be needed in dirty ground battle. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On March 11 2016 12:00 FiWiFaKi wrote: To prepare for the unexpected. China and Russia are both gaining strength and power, ISIS, Pakistan, and NK could do weird things.... and maintaining stability in the world is important. The US military is not prepared for any larger world conflict that could erupt. Yeah, they are gaining strength in an attempt to catch up. Even if what you say is generally true, it doesn't mean you need to make new WoMD. We already have plenty of those. As for everything else, we are doing exactly that on a yearly basis. Hell, just last week they revealed the new B-21 bomber to replace/supplement the B-2. | ||
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Mohdoo
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xDaunt
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LegalLord
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On March 11 2016 12:07 FiWiFaKi wrote: I agree, the US military is inefficient, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't need to be expanded. The US keeps buying planes instead of focusing on other technology that might be needed in dirty ground battle. All of the US technology is pretty inefficient, it's just planes that get the most attention. The US needs to stop buying stupidly expensive technology that is worth 10% of what it actually costs. Cut out the incentives that make it that way and it will allow huge cost savings, and even will allow the military to be expanded in the right ways if it needs to be done. | ||
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Mohdoo
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