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LegalLord

United States13779 Posts

March 11 2016 02:57 GMT

#65381

On March 11 2016 11:54 -NegativeZero- wrote:
trump: "to defeat those evil murdering terrorists, we have to sink to their level"

To be fair, sometimes you really do. The inability to accept collateral damage and the inability to destroy supply lines that feed terrorists (e.g. ISIS oil trucks) makes it very hard to actually deal with them.

trulojucreathrma.com

United States327 Posts

March 11 2016 02:58 GMT

#65382

We get billions from Israel :D

Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

March 11 2016 02:59 GMT

#65383

"maybe that's not your intent" lmfao did someone rip off Rubio's balls recently or something?

FiWiFaKi

Canada9859 Posts

March 11 2016 03:00 GMT

#65384

On March 11 2016 11:56 On_Slaught wrote:

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Why is a new one necessary?

To prepare for the unexpected. China and Russia are both gaining strength and power, ISIS, Pakistan, and NK could do weird things.... and maintaining stability in the world is important. The US military is not prepared for any larger world conflict that could erupt.

trulojucreathrma.com

United States327 Posts

March 11 2016 03:03 GMT

#65385

Iron Dome finally hit something! The American audience now thinks hundreds of Israeli would be dead without it. But in fact, those deadly Palestinian attacks don't exist; the are fictitious. Iron Dome doesn't work, doesn't intercept qassams..

Slaughter

United States20255 Posts

March 11 2016 03:03 GMT

#65386

Got to love the "things aren't black and white" talk from them....except when it comes to Israel...they are angels and the Palestinians are devils. lmao

LegalLord

United States13779 Posts

March 11 2016 03:06 GMT

#65387

American military technology is mind-bogglingly cost-inefficient. The F-35 is a plane with a ridiculous price tag, and the F-22 cost $340m a pop (total program cost divided by number of planes produced). Compare that to the $35m cost of modern Su, Mig, or Eurofighter planes. Guess what? The F-22 is great but it simply isn't so good that it would beat 5-10 of those other planes in battle (or in effectiveness in completing missions). It is only moderately better than the others but extremely more expensive.

Other programs are similarly wasteful with some ridiculous perverse incentives that lead defense contractors to charge ridiculous amounts for their military technology.

trulojucreathrma.com

United States327 Posts

March 11 2016 03:06 GMT

#65388

Funny thing, they are going to make a new B2.

Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

March 11 2016 03:06 GMT

#65389

What in the god damn hell.

Rubio giving props to Bernie. Is he just wanting this whole campaign thing to finish up so he can write a book?

FiWiFaKi

Canada9859 Posts

March 11 2016 03:07 GMT

#65390

On March 11 2016 12:06 LegalLord wrote:
American military technology is mind-bogglingly cost-inefficient. The F-35 is a plane with a ridiculous price tag, and the F-22 cost $340m a pop (total program cost divided by number of planes produced). Compare that to the $35m cost of modern Su, Mig, or Eurofighter planes which cost around $30 million a pop. Guess what? The F-22 is great but it simply isn't so good that it would beat 5-10 of those other planes in battle (or in effectiveness in completing missions). It is only moderately better than the others but extremely more expensive.

Other programs are similarly wasteful with some ridiculous perverse incentives that lead defense contractors to charge ridiculous amounts for their military technology.

I agree, the US military is inefficient, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't need to be expanded. The US keeps buying planes instead of focusing on other technology that might be needed in dirty ground battle.

On_Slaught

United States12190 Posts

March 11 2016 03:08 GMT

#65391

On March 11 2016 12:00 FiWiFaKi wrote:

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Yeah, they are gaining strength in an attempt to catch up.

Even if what you say is generally true, it doesn't mean you need to make new WoMD. We already have plenty of those. As for everything else, we are doing exactly that on a yearly basis. Hell, just last week they revealed the new B-21 bomber to replace/supplement the B-2.

Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

March 11 2016 03:08 GMT

#65392

LMAO the whole crowd boos when people say Obama will be in Cuba. How in the world do people justify that?

xDaunt

United States17988 Posts

March 11 2016 03:09 GMT

#65393

Yeah, the F35 program is a fiscal disaster. It is unconscionably bad.

LegalLord

United States13779 Posts

March 11 2016 03:10 GMT

#65394

On March 11 2016 12:07 FiWiFaKi wrote:

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All of the US technology is pretty inefficient, it's just planes that get the most attention. The US needs to stop buying stupidly expensive technology that is worth 10% of what it actually costs. Cut out the incentives that make it that way and it will allow huge cost savings, and even will allow the military to be expanded in the right ways if it needs to be done.

Sbrubbles

Brazil5776 Posts

March 11 2016 03:11 GMT

#65395

Cuba gonna sue the US for a trillion dollars!

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

March 11 2016 03:12 GMT

#65396

developing new tech especially new paradigm (beyond visual range combat) is hard. it is a strategically important system if they can get it off the ground. the planners aren't morons