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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 09 2016 03:43 GMT
#64701
why would a black dude fromthe hood support sanders? he isnt getting a union job anyway and sanders would just make the price of goods jump. hilarious to think they should be voting for the guy who is actually bad for them.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 09 2016 03:43 GMT
#64702
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23933 Posts
March 09 2016 03:47 GMT
#64703
On March 09 2016 12:43 oneofthem wrote:
why would a black dude fromthe hood support sanders? he isnt getting a union job anyway and sanders would just make the price of goods jump. hilarious to think they should be voting for the guy who is actually bad for them.


Lol the salt goes well with these fries.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 09 2016 03:50 GMT
#64704
On March 09 2016 12:37 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 12:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
Gotta love America, 70% of Muslims in Michigan voting for the Jewish guy.

EDIT: Damn it stealth lol.

65-30 for black voters in MI on exit polling. Not great, but progress.

Where are ya'll getting this?

Dearborn isn't even majority muslim, afaik. They're Christian Arabs.

I wanna see Trump win yuge with Arab Americans of every stripe. Also seeing how many Dems vote for Roque Rocky de la Fuente!
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 09 2016 03:52 GMT
#64705


oh shit boys

its not over yet lel
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 03:55:05
March 09 2016 03:54 GMT
#64706
Hillary's lead keeps decreasing in Wayne County. It's pretty interesting. It's still got 40% left to go and it's so big that it could make up the rest of the difference, but the way it's going it seems like Bernie's got MI.

On March 09 2016 12:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/707413242574843904

oh shit boys

its not over yet lel

What % of primary votes are absentee?
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 09 2016 03:57 GMT
#64707
I don't want to call it until it's called. But if this 4% win holds... this is the biggest upset in primary history.

god damn
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
March 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#64708
On March 09 2016 12:57 darthfoley wrote:
I don't want to call it until it's called. But if this 4% win holds... this is the biggest upset in primary history.

god damn


What's the upset?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#64709
On March 09 2016 12:58 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 12:57 darthfoley wrote:
I don't want to call it until it's called. But if this 4% win holds... this is the biggest upset in primary history.

god damn


What's the upset?

Sanders is winning Michigan at this rate.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 09 2016 03:59 GMT
#64710
Hillary had Wayne County like 67-33 an hour ago. It's down to 56.8 - 41.2
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23933 Posts
March 09 2016 04:01 GMT
#64711
On March 09 2016 12:58 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 12:57 darthfoley wrote:
I don't want to call it until it's called. But if this 4% win holds... this is the biggest upset in primary history.

god damn


What's the upset?


Go back and check the Nate Silver tweet.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
March 09 2016 04:01 GMT
#64712
Due to how big of an underdog he was in Mi if he wins they should tell everyone and their mom about it. Probably a big boon to those working on his campaign.
Never Knows Best.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 09 2016 04:03 GMT
#64713
Being down literally 20% going into a state and pulling off a potential 4% win. That is incredible on all accounts. Thank god for open primaries
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 04:09:02
March 09 2016 04:05 GMT
#64714
Why is Gladwin County 780-74 for Sanders with 17/18 precincts reporting?


Edit:
Tweet from 538 earlier today:+ Show Spoiler +


darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 09 2016 04:11 GMT
#64715
Either way this is going to be very close
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23933 Posts
March 09 2016 04:12 GMT
#64716
On March 09 2016 13:05 ZeaL. wrote:
Why is Gladwin County 780-74 for Sanders with 17/18 precincts reporting?


Edit:
Tweet from 538 earlier today:+ Show Spoiler +


https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/707233931813236738



538 totally air-balled MI, no if ands or buts about it. They didn't even skim the net let alone touch the rim.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 09 2016 04:15 GMT
#64717
Lol, see Nate Silver back track on everything 538 stands for http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/michigan-mississippi-idaho-hawaii-primaries-presidential-election-2016/

I said in our Slack chat today that I had a “gut feeling” that Sanders could beat his polling in Michigan. I also said, for the record, that you should mostly ignore that gut feeling. But it wasn’t a total shot in the dark. There were a few things that made me think a closer-than-expected result was possible:

Basically, I’m not sure that Michigan was ever really a 20-point race, as polls had it. Based on the demographics of the state, it probably narrowly favored Clinton. But then, perhaps some of her voters didn’t show up, or voted in the GOP primary instead, because it didn’t look like Clinton needed their vote. That might potentially be enough to push Sanders over the top, although it will be very close.

By the way, this is part of why we try to approach the primaries from multiple perspectives. Our polling averages are a useful tool, but not the only one we look at.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 09 2016 04:15 GMT
#64718
On March 09 2016 12:43 oneofthem wrote:
why would a black dude fromthe hood support sanders? he isnt getting a union job anyway and sanders would just make the price of goods jump. hilarious to think they should be voting for the guy who is actually bad for them.


If only price of goods were all that mattered in the world.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 04:17:01
March 09 2016 04:16 GMT
#64719
On March 09 2016 13:12 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 13:05 ZeaL. wrote:
Why is Gladwin County 780-74 for Sanders with 17/18 precincts reporting?


Edit:
Tweet from 538 earlier today:+ Show Spoiler +


https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/707233931813236738



538 totally air-balled MI, no if ands or buts about it. They didn't even skim the net let alone touch the rim.


I mean they were totally off but it's not completely their fault. Polling for MI has consistently had Sanders down by 10-20% within the last week even. They can't do anything without accurate polls. Even if Hillary pulls it back and somehow wins, this result still shows the polling was way off.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 09 2016 04:19 GMT
#64720
On March 09 2016 13:15 darthfoley wrote:
Lol, see Nate Silver back track on everything 538 stands for http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/michigan-mississippi-idaho-hawaii-primaries-presidential-election-2016/

Show nested quote +
I said in our Slack chat today that I had a “gut feeling” that Sanders could beat his polling in Michigan. I also said, for the record, that you should mostly ignore that gut feeling. But it wasn’t a total shot in the dark. There were a few things that made me think a closer-than-expected result was possible:

Basically, I’m not sure that Michigan was ever really a 20-point race, as polls had it. Based on the demographics of the state, it probably narrowly favored Clinton. But then, perhaps some of her voters didn’t show up, or voted in the GOP primary instead, because it didn’t look like Clinton needed their vote. That might potentially be enough to push Sanders over the top, although it will be very close.

By the way, this is part of why we try to approach the primaries from multiple perspectives. Our polling averages are a useful tool, but not the only one we look at.

I've always had an issue with Silver and transparency of his methods.
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