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On March 09 2016 12:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It should be really worrying to Democrats that Trump won Michigan an now Sanders showed, win or lose, how wrong Polling was. They are both anti NAFTA/Free trade.
EDIT: Looks like Clinton camp read the tea leaves and is switching to a more populist argument on free trade.
That has been my point.
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On March 09 2016 12:04 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 12:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It should be really worrying to Democrats that Trump won Michigan an now Sanders showed, win or lose, how wrong Polling was. They are both anti NAFTA/Free trade.
EDIT: Looks like Clinton camp read the tea leaves and is switching to a more populist argument on free trade. Wasnt Trump just talking about how much he loved Free Trade in his ramblings...
He's said he is for free trade but equal trade which many people see that NAFTA isn't.
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They're separated by under 10k votes now, at 48.3%.
Washtenaw and Ingham counties have a bit to go. Both with big college towns.
Although Wayne County's still under 50% too. That's Detroit.
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Clinton allowing herself wiggle room on Universal Daycare.
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Based on the outstanding counties Jibba pointed out, Michigan is anyone's game still.
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It's pretty interesting reading these Guardian maps. Kasich does best in high education areas, Trump does best in the Eastern part of the state, and Cruz cleans up with all the meth heads in western/northern Michigan.
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On March 09 2016 12:01 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 09 2016 11:42 Introvert wrote:On March 09 2016 11:41 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 09 2016 11:34 Introvert wrote:
Question is, will the party go to Cruz or Trump? A month ago I said it would be Trump, but it's possible they fear his prospects in November too much. Kasich still playing for VP. Rubio has to be out now. Even if he sticks around for Florida, he's done, win or no win. It's Trump. A bunch of billionaires (the ones funding other candidates for example) offer him a ridiculously sweet deal to just be a figure head. Cruz is a dead end for the establishment. Kasich could win if they went with the block Trump at all cost and negotiate with party loyal delegates that were elected by Trump people who don't understand the process route, but anything other than giving Trump the nomination or everyone actually rallying around Ted to give him a majority of delegates and the party falls apart. I would have agreed a month ago, but I'm not so sure anymore. Like was said about the more liberal states Cruz is toast they would need Kasich to be the guy and have Ted somehow lock down every delegate he's won and MAKE them support Kasich at a brokered convention, then throw Cruz on as VP (yeah that's as impossible as it sounds). My post didn't have anything to do with winning. The question is, what will they try?
They will try to win, or just give up. I gave you the plan they would use to try to win. They aren't going anywhere near Cruz. The real problem is that even what was considered "the establishment" has significantly fractured. Those that were only just barely under their dominion are liking Trump and Cruz and the idea of telling those guys to blow themselves.
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Any link to Trump's speech?
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economically stressed people grasping at straws, as if cutting trade will get the jobs back.
what actual legitimate issue does sander even contribute? more like a yuuge distraction. only benefit is to offer hillary a preview of the populist situation as a vaccination.
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The Jewish Democratic Socialist is winning Dearborn county the largest concentration of Arab population is Michigan.
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Gotta love America, 70% of Muslims in Michigan voting for the Jewish guy.
EDIT: Damn it stealth lol.
65-30 for black voters in MI on exit polling. Not great, but progress.
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Expect the media to not mention polling tonight maybe even for the next few days.
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On March 09 2016 12:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Jewish Democratic Socialist is winning Dearborn county the largest concentration of Arab population is Michigan.
Isn't that the highest concentration in the nation?
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And the Clinton camp to avoid the term Free Trade.
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On March 09 2016 12:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
Gotta love America, 70% of Muslims in Michigan voting for the Jewish guy.
EDIT: Damn it stealth lol.
65-30 for black voters in MI on exit polling. Not great, but progress.
where you getting these stats? i wanna see
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On March 09 2016 12:30 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 12:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
Gotta love America, 70% of Muslims in Michigan voting for the Jewish guy.
EDIT: Damn it stealth lol.
65-30 for black voters in MI on exit polling. Not great, but progress. where you getting these stats? i wanna see
Here's the exit polling from MI.
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/MI/Rep
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On March 09 2016 12:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Jewish Democratic Socialist is winning Dearborn county the largest concentration of Arab population is Michigan.
Eh? Dearborn is in Wayne County. He's making up ground on Hillary, but she's still winning it heavily. Maybe not by enough, but still heavily.
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On March 09 2016 12:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
Gotta love America, 70% of Muslims in Michigan voting for the Jewish guy.
EDIT: Damn it stealth lol.
65-30 for black voters in MI on exit polling. Not great, but progress.
Where are ya'll getting this?
Dearborn isn't even majority muslim, afaik. They're Christian Arabs.
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