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On March 09 2016 08:03 farvacola wrote: Msu's campus paper fucking sucks but yeah, the college voter antipathy is real.
Aww I always thought it was pretty good when I was there. Nothing super special but respectable.
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On March 09 2016 07:49 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 07:25 oneofthem wrote: nah pakistan didn't get nukes with u.s. approval. they got it from china. They got pieces from the US, from the Netherlands and figured the rest out themselves. The Dutch government wanted to apprehend the spy, Khan, that stole the technology, but the US intervened at the last moment at the very highest level, president to prime minister, and Khan was able to board a plane back to Pakistan. The rest is history. Question remains if US letting Khan escape was intentional or just incompetence. Either way, the US supported Pakistani dictators all the way through. Read up Zia-ul-Haq. He is the cause of 70% of the problems in that region. They are also the most dangerous nuclear state. Far more dangerous than N Korea. And remember, Iran doesn't even have a nuclear weapons program, as far as we know. ISI didn't run a tight ship. One sector of the ISI was killing the Pakistani prime minster, who was an ISI agent himself, because he was of the wrong wrong sector of the ISI. i've not read that little story about aq khan. even without him pakistan would have gotten the nuke though.
ISI conducted counterintelligence vs outside intelligence actors around its nuclear program, was very successful in doing so.
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Sure, that Khan wasn't the most important Khan, but the proper centrifuge technology is crucial for a successful nuclear programme.
At this point, almost any nation can get a nuclear weapon if they are set on it. You need to be somewhat industrialized and have a central government that has some stability. If North Korea can do it, almost anyone can. There's like 50 to a 100 countries that can develop nuclear weapons within 6 months.
The hard thing at this point actually seems to develop a an intercontinental ballistic missile.
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On March 09 2016 08:18 trulojucreathrma.com wrote: Sure, that Khan wasn't the most important Khan...
Yeah. Barely conquered any of Asia at all.
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On March 09 2016 05:20 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 04:46 radscorpion9 wrote:Hey did you guys play the CNN 2016 Candidate matchmaker? As an outsider who has a very light knowledge on most of these issues, I thought it did a good job of keeping things simple, but deep enough to have meaningful differences. I got good old Hillary Clinton, with O'Malley in second. I think I'm happy with that, Hillary is pretty cool. But I certainly wouldn't mind Sanders either (he came in third). Here's the link in case anyone's interested. Its fun CNN Matchmakeredit: Also wow, I tried picking the most die-hard conservative answers, like climate change is a hoax, and apparently Rubio agrees completely? I had no idea. Isidewith seems much better. https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz http://i.imgur.com/mU4J52l.png http://i.imgur.com/k5uoq78.png Yup, that's pretty much exactly where I'd say I stand with the candidates (except it says I side with Cruz on education, lolwut?). Pretty good survey.
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On March 09 2016 08:10 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 08:03 farvacola wrote: Msu's campus paper fucking sucks but yeah, the college voter antipathy is real. Aww I always thought it was pretty good when I was there. Nothing super special but respectable. I'll give you this: it is just as good as OSU's paper
As for U of M's endorsement, no big surprise, though I've no doubt that the law school doesn't share in the sentiment
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On March 09 2016 08:45 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 05:20 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 09 2016 04:46 radscorpion9 wrote:Hey did you guys play the CNN 2016 Candidate matchmaker? As an outsider who has a very light knowledge on most of these issues, I thought it did a good job of keeping things simple, but deep enough to have meaningful differences. I got good old Hillary Clinton, with O'Malley in second. I think I'm happy with that, Hillary is pretty cool. But I certainly wouldn't mind Sanders either (he came in third). Here's the link in case anyone's interested. Its fun CNN Matchmakeredit: Also wow, I tried picking the most die-hard conservative answers, like climate change is a hoax, and apparently Rubio agrees completely? I had no idea. Isidewith seems much better. https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz http://i.imgur.com/mU4J52l.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/k5uoq78.pngYup, that's pretty much exactly where I'd say I stand with the candidates (except it says I side with Cruz on education, lolwut?). Pretty good survey.
http://i.imgur.com/X5QUJBN.png
They really need a question about the privatization of prisons
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Been calling MI all day, sounding like it should be close. On a random note I got a Cruz voter to say some socialism is good sometimes after opening with yelling at me about working for an evil socialist.
I think I'm much better on the phone than on here lol.
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On March 09 2016 09:14 GreenHorizons wrote: Been calling MI all day, sounding like it should be close. On a random note I got a Cruz voter to say some socialism is good sometimes after opening with yelling at me about working for an evil socialist.
I think I'm much better on the phone than on here lol. I really hope so.  Seriously though, I think it will be close. Apparently there is yuge turnout.
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Are the results going to be known today for Mi?
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On March 09 2016 09:16 Slaughter wrote: Are the results going to be known today for Mi? Yeah, AFAIK for a primary it takes a few hours after the polls close.
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I expect Bush to win Florida.
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On March 09 2016 09:17 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 09:16 Slaughter wrote: Are the results going to be known today for Mi? Yeah, AFAIK for a primary it takes a few hours after the polls close.
Still waiting on some votes from super Tuesday as well as Maine. It's a pretty stupid process.
But Clinton's camp has been talking down expectations and saying "We'll end up with more delegates tonight" So it's most likely not the 9-20% gap the polls were showing.
Now the media is whitening up and playing up why Bernie should win MI so it's coming down to who shows up where. I'm really hoping one of the people I called ends up in a precinct like that MA one where out of 6000+ votes it came down to 1 more Sanders supporter. Would feel especially good.
My teams dumped so much into MI I just hope we didn't over do it and miss viability in MS. No idea why MSNBC has been misreporting that it was winner take all if they got 51%+ on the Dem side in MS. It wasn't in any of the rules I read.
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94% Bernie 91% Stein 90% Hillary 60% Bloomberg 51% Johnson 20% Kasich 16% Trump 10% Rubio 9% Cruz 9% Carson
Wrote in a couple of answers for which I felt the choices were inadequate
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On March 09 2016 08:42 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 08:18 trulojucreathrma.com wrote: Sure, that Khan wasn't the most important Khan... Yeah. Barely conquered any of Asia at all.
Troll or bad joke?
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The A.P. calls Mississippi for Clinton, as expected.
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On March 09 2016 10:01 kwizach wrote: The A.P. calls Mississippi for Clinton, as expected.
Yeah we're just hoping for viability honestly. Seems like we should good, but holy crap team has reports of literally hundreds of people in MS who didn't know his name.
I knew internet sucked out there but damn...
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trump trump trump let's go
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On March 09 2016 10:05 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 10:01 kwizach wrote: The A.P. calls Mississippi for Clinton, as expected. Yeah we're just hoping for viability honestly. Seems like we should good, but holy crap team has reports of literally hundreds of people in MS who didn't know his name. I knew internet sucked out there but damn... And how long can he keep losing before he finally starts closing the gap?
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As so many people were posting the "isidewith.com" compass, I tried it as well. I got Bernie Sanders (no way) and the person who I'd actually vote for isn't even on the list 
The problem is their very unorthodox choice of election issues. Most of those questions I couldn't care less about, and they aren't pushed by the candidates, they aren't being talked about, and they most certainly don't correspond to what voters are indicating as their most important issues (foreign policy not represented, hello). So my response was basically random.
If you want to try a more adequate election compass done by social scientists, try this: www.societly.com
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