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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 15 2016 02:45 GMT
#54801
John Kasich again the moderate, for now at least.

Chris Christie flipping back on everything he said he was for in hopes of staying up.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 15 2016 02:46 GMT
#54802
Ben Carson asking the serious questions in the most serious way possible and its still ironic
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
January 15 2016 02:47 GMT
#54803
this is why political debates need to happen on public television
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 15 2016 02:47 GMT
#54804
Breaking: One man's infidelity brought down America via race wars, income wars etc according to bookseller Ben Carson.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 02:49:25
January 15 2016 02:47 GMT
#54805
On January 15 2016 11:31 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 11:30 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:28 Introvert wrote:
Nah, we've gone over this. The info was always public. Failing to report a loan on one piece of paper vs another is hardly the worst thing. At most it seems to be a fine worthy offense.

I think his voters might have wanted to know this while he was campaigning against Wall Street.

Then again, judging from the current debate, the disclosure might have raised his poll numbers.


It was public before the senate election.

I see it was disclosed to the Senate, but I don't see where it was public. I definitely remember this being utterly unknown during his Senate campaign.

Do you have a source?
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
January 15 2016 02:48 GMT
#54806
On January 15 2016 11:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Ben Carson asking the serious questions in the most serious way possible and its still ironic


haha yeah.

"a house divided against itself, cannot stand"- continues to rig the house with explosives

^^
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 02:49:23
January 15 2016 02:48 GMT
#54807
Holy balls that was the most awkward commercial outro I've ever seen.

On January 15 2016 11:48 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 11:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Ben Carson asking the serious questions in the most serious way possible and its still ironic


haha yeah.

"a house divided against itself, cannot stand"- continues to rig the house with explosives

^^


More or less what Jeb! said too.

"The attack ads are here, people will have to get used to them - stop dividing everyone with arguments, yada yada"
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5000 Posts
January 15 2016 02:49 GMT
#54808
On January 15 2016 11:47 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:30 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:28 Introvert wrote:
Nah, we've gone over this. The info was always public. Failing to report a loan on one piece of paper vs another is hardly the worst thing. At most it seems to be a fine worthy offense.

I think his voters might have wanted to know this while he was campaigning against Wall Street.

Then again, judging from the current debate, the disclosure might have raised his poll numbers.


It was public before the senate election.

I see it was disclosed to the Senate, but I don't see where it was public.


I read it in an article somewhere, I'm not going to go find it right now. Regardless, taking out a loan is hardly a sin. Who cares if it was from GS, It's a loan.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 15 2016 02:49 GMT
#54809
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5000 Posts
January 15 2016 02:49 GMT
#54810
On January 15 2016 11:47 Nyxisto wrote:
this is why political debates need to happen on public television


What does this mean.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
January 15 2016 02:50 GMT
#54811
On January 15 2016 11:49 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 11:47 Nyxisto wrote:
this is why political debates need to happen on public television


What does this mean.


I mean this is essentially entertainment, not politics any more.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5000 Posts
January 15 2016 02:51 GMT
#54812
On January 15 2016 11:50 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 11:49 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:47 Nyxisto wrote:
this is why political debates need to happen on public television


What does this mean.


I mean this is essentially entertainment, not politics any more.


It's both. I still don't understand your comment, but it's fine. I don't see how it would be different on PBS.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 02:54:26
January 15 2016 02:52 GMT
#54813
On January 15 2016 11:49 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 11:47 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:30 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:28 Introvert wrote:
Nah, we've gone over this. The info was always public. Failing to report a loan on one piece of paper vs another is hardly the worst thing. At most it seems to be a fine worthy offense.

I think his voters might have wanted to know this while he was campaigning against Wall Street.

Then again, judging from the current debate, the disclosure might have raised his poll numbers.


It was public before the senate election.

I see it was disclosed to the Senate, but I don't see where it was public.


I read it in an article somewhere, I'm not going to go find it right now. Regardless, taking out a loan is hardly a sin. Who cares if it was from GS, It's a loan.

After quite a bit of Googling among hard-right websites, I found a Twitter picture of someone holding what appears to be a financial form from the Cruz Campaign that's utterly arcane as to the terms of the loan, when it was publicly disclosed (as opposed to filed to the Senate), and, at best, completed just two weeks before the election date. I hope that isn't your "source".

Once again, I don't know how his supporters would have taken this.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 15 2016 02:53 GMT
#54814
Christ almighty Jeb Bush just answer the damn question.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5000 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 02:55:00
January 15 2016 02:54 GMT
#54815
On January 15 2016 11:52 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 11:49 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:47 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:30 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:28 Introvert wrote:
Nah, we've gone over this. The info was always public. Failing to report a loan on one piece of paper vs another is hardly the worst thing. At most it seems to be a fine worthy offense.

I think his voters might have wanted to know this while he was campaigning against Wall Street.

Then again, judging from the current debate, the disclosure might have raised his poll numbers.


It was public before the senate election.

I see it was disclosed to the Senate, but I don't see where it was public.


I read it in an article somewhere, I'm not going to go find it right now. Regardless, taking out a loan is hardly a sin. Who cares if it was from GS, It's a loan.

After quite a bit of Googling among hard-right websites, I found a Twitter picture of someone holding what appears to be a financial form from the Cruz Campaign that's utterly arcane as to the terms of the loan, when it was publicly disclosed (as opposed to filed to the Senate), and, at best, completed two weeks before the election date. I hope that isn't your "source".


No, but I don't recall what it is. Really though, taking out a loan is not news. Even if you criticize bailouts. This really isn't complicated.

His supporters wouldn't have cared. It's a loan.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 15 2016 02:54 GMT
#54816
Oh god

Right Trump, because people bring a ton of guns to concerts and the venue lets them do that

At least they acknowledge the mental health problem, so that's progress
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 02:56:16
January 15 2016 02:56 GMT
#54817
On January 15 2016 11:54 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 11:52 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:49 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:47 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:30 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:28 Introvert wrote:
Nah, we've gone over this. The info was always public. Failing to report a loan on one piece of paper vs another is hardly the worst thing. At most it seems to be a fine worthy offense.

I think his voters might have wanted to know this while he was campaigning against Wall Street.

Then again, judging from the current debate, the disclosure might have raised his poll numbers.


It was public before the senate election.

I see it was disclosed to the Senate, but I don't see where it was public.


I read it in an article somewhere, I'm not going to go find it right now. Regardless, taking out a loan is hardly a sin. Who cares if it was from GS, It's a loan.

After quite a bit of Googling among hard-right websites, I found a Twitter picture of someone holding what appears to be a financial form from the Cruz Campaign that's utterly arcane as to the terms of the loan, when it was publicly disclosed (as opposed to filed to the Senate), and, at best, completed two weeks before the election date. I hope that isn't your "source".


No, but I don't recall what it is. Really though, taking out a loan is not news. Even if you criticize bailouts. This really isn't complicated.

His supporters wouldn't have cared. It's a loan.

I believe his supporters wouldn't have cared if they're accurately represented by the crowd at this debate.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 15 2016 02:57 GMT
#54818
Rubio is squirming can tell he wants to move on from this question.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5000 Posts
January 15 2016 02:58 GMT
#54819
On January 15 2016 11:56 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 11:54 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:52 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:49 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:47 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:30 acker wrote:
On January 15 2016 11:28 Introvert wrote:
Nah, we've gone over this. The info was always public. Failing to report a loan on one piece of paper vs another is hardly the worst thing. At most it seems to be a fine worthy offense.

I think his voters might have wanted to know this while he was campaigning against Wall Street.

Then again, judging from the current debate, the disclosure might have raised his poll numbers.


It was public before the senate election.

I see it was disclosed to the Senate, but I don't see where it was public.


I read it in an article somewhere, I'm not going to go find it right now. Regardless, taking out a loan is hardly a sin. Who cares if it was from GS, It's a loan.

After quite a bit of Googling among hard-right websites, I found a Twitter picture of someone holding what appears to be a financial form from the Cruz Campaign that's utterly arcane as to the terms of the loan, when it was publicly disclosed (as opposed to filed to the Senate), and, at best, completed two weeks before the election date. I hope that isn't your "source".


No, but I don't recall what it is. Really though, taking out a loan is not news. Even if you criticize bailouts. This really isn't complicated.

His supporters wouldn't have cared. It's a loan.

I believe his supporters wouldn't have cared if they're accurately represented by the crowd at this debate.


We'll see if this thread cares more about Cruz's loan than Trump does LOL. I want to find out.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 02:59:22
January 15 2016 02:58 GMT
#54820
Rubio is technically correct that most criminals do not get their guns from gun shows. But only technically.

Criminals generally steal their guns from legal owners, buy guns through associates that can pass background checks, or obtain guns through private sales. All of which are definite issues.
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