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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:28:16
December 16 2015 03:27 GMT
#53261
On December 16 2015 12:26 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On another note, Cruz and Rubio appear to absolutely LOATHE each other. Almost as much as Rand and Trump.


I loathe both of them fwiw
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 16 2015 03:28 GMT
#53262
Two people with cuban blood in a cat fight
rip passion
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 16 2015 03:28 GMT
#53263
To be fair to Rubio, Cruz is extremely loath-able.
Yargh
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 16 2015 03:32 GMT
#53264
Paul and Cruz tag teaming Rubio
rip passion
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
December 16 2015 03:36 GMT
#53265
We can't vet those gosh darn 5 year old orphans.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 16 2015 03:40 GMT
#53266
when the risk of a false negative is a terrorist attack your screening test had better have no false negatives

and if you have to limit it to 5 year old orphans so be it
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:42:06
December 16 2015 03:41 GMT
#53267
The results of this poll are kinda impressive.
+ Show Spoiler +

Poll: Which Republican candidate has the most punchable face?

Cruz (43)
 
91%

The Donald (1)
 
2%

iCarly (1)
 
2%

Chris Christie (1)
 
2%

Ron Paul Jr (1)
 
2%

Jeb! (0)
 
0%

Kasich (0)
 
0%

Rubio (0)
 
0%

Dr. Benjamin Carson (0)
 
0%

Scott Walker (0)
 
0%

Hiccup Huckabee (0)
 
0%

47 total votes

Your vote: Which Republican candidate has the most punchable face?

(Vote): Jeb!
(Vote): Kasich
(Vote): Cruz
(Vote): Rubio
(Vote): The Donald
(Vote): iCarly
(Vote): Chris Christie
(Vote): Ron Paul Jr
(Vote): Dr. Benjamin Carson
(Vote): Scott Walker
(Vote): Hiccup Huckabee



Oh it's missing Rubio woops.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:44:26
December 16 2015 03:43 GMT
#53268
On December 16 2015 12:40 jalstar wrote:
when the risk of a false negative is a terrorist attack your screening test had better have no false negatives

and if you have to limit it to 5 year old orphans so be it


That's assuming that you can only classify people as "positive" and "negative" and that your only options are "let them in and do nothing about it" and "turn them away." Both of those aren't really true for terror threats. I mean, you shouldn't let in anyone at all-shut all borders-by that logic, that's the only way to have no false negatives.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:46:03
December 16 2015 03:44 GMT
#53269
Fiorina's catch phrase this debate is "showing strength".

Carson: "Economy is another weapon besides the military. And without a military, we have nothing."
Yargh
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 16 2015 03:46 GMT
#53270
so basicly, according to carson: "the only way to deal with North Korea is via superior economy. We have to abuse that on a nation that spends all his money on it's military ignoring it's publics needs for food. So we need to strenghten our military"
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:47:47
December 16 2015 03:46 GMT
#53271
On December 16 2015 12:43 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 12:40 jalstar wrote:
when the risk of a false negative is a terrorist attack your screening test had better have no false negatives

and if you have to limit it to 5 year old orphans so be it


That's assuming that you can only classify people as "positive" and "negative" and that your only options are "let them in and do nothing about it" and "turn them away." Both of those aren't really true for terror threats. I mean, you shouldn't let in anyone at all-shut all borders-by that logic, that's the only way to have no false negatives.


you can certainly make a 2x2 table with "terrorist" and "not terrorist" and "identified as terrorist by screening" vs "not identified"

both of those are binary, sure you can do more with screening and us agencies certainly would.

On December 16 2015 12:46 Toadesstern wrote:
so basicly, according to carson: "the only way to deal with North Korea is via superior economy. We have to abuse that on a nation that spends all his money on it's military ignoring it's publics needs for food. So we need to strenghten our military"


this supports the theory that carson is preparing by playing civilization 5.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
December 16 2015 03:49 GMT
#53272
On December 16 2015 12:46 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 12:43 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On December 16 2015 12:40 jalstar wrote:
when the risk of a false negative is a terrorist attack your screening test had better have no false negatives

and if you have to limit it to 5 year old orphans so be it


That's assuming that you can only classify people as "positive" and "negative" and that your only options are "let them in and do nothing about it" and "turn them away." Both of those aren't really true for terror threats. I mean, you shouldn't let in anyone at all-shut all borders-by that logic, that's the only way to have no false negatives.


you can certainly make a 2x2 table with "terrorist" and "not terrorist" and "accept them into the usa" vs "do literally anything else"

both of those are binary, sure you can do more with screening and us agencies certainly would.


It's really more like a 4x4 table though. "Not terrorist." "Small chance of terrorist." "Moderate chance of terrorist." "High chance of terrorist." And your options are "Let them in with minimal supervision." "Let them in with high surveillance." "Let them in with extremely high surveillance and use them as an unwitting mole." "Do anything else."

That seems way more coherent than "don't let anyone in" to me.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 16 2015 03:51 GMT
#53273
On December 16 2015 12:46 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 12:43 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On December 16 2015 12:40 jalstar wrote:
when the risk of a false negative is a terrorist attack your screening test had better have no false negatives

and if you have to limit it to 5 year old orphans so be it


That's assuming that you can only classify people as "positive" and "negative" and that your only options are "let them in and do nothing about it" and "turn them away." Both of those aren't really true for terror threats. I mean, you shouldn't let in anyone at all-shut all borders-by that logic, that's the only way to have no false negatives.


you can certainly make a 2x2 table with "terrorist" and "not terrorist" and "identified as terrorist by screening" vs "not identified"

both of those are binary, sure you can do more with screening and us agencies certainly would.

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 12:46 Toadesstern wrote:
so basicly, according to carson: "the only way to deal with North Korea is via superior economy. We have to abuse that on a nation that spends all his money on it's military ignoring it's publics needs for food. So we need to strenghten our military"


this supports the theory that carson is preparing by playing civilization 5.


Maybe he knows that pyramids give faith and science instead of wheat now.
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:52:39
December 16 2015 03:51 GMT
#53274
After this whole grain in pyramids thing this theory is really gaining traction. I just can't follow American conservatives. It's like watching some kind of alien species debating. Although there are probably alien lifeforms out there right now who might be less weird.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 16 2015 03:52 GMT
#53275
Trump made Cruz his bitch. Cruz can't even talk bad about Trump now.
Yargh
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:55:48
December 16 2015 03:53 GMT
#53276
I don't think Cruz knows what "infinitely" means. His advisers telling him not to say anything bad about Trump is...interesting.

Why does Carson think that in the past there's been sinister subterfuge by the Republican party?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 16 2015 03:53 GMT
#53277
Stupid questions get stupid answers. Trump and Cruz handled that well.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 16 2015 03:55 GMT
#53278
Carson needs speech training
rip passion
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 16 2015 03:58 GMT
#53279
Poor Jeb Bush, the man just wants to go home. But can't.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:59:35
December 16 2015 03:59 GMT
#53280
Carson

Grains in pyramids
Guy came at me with knife but my belt saved me
I prayed to jesus before my chem final and angels told me all the answers in a dream
rip passion
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