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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 16 2015 02:40 GMT
#53221
So in that "encounter" bush was the bad guy, what? Oo
On track to MA1950A.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
December 16 2015 02:41 GMT
#53222
Pity people are paying so much attention to ISIS when they're such a weak group; whereas things like climate change are an actual real threat.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
December 16 2015 02:42 GMT
#53223
On December 16 2015 11:40 m4ini wrote:
So in that "encounter" bush was the bad guy, what? Oo


The crowd certainly didn't seem to think so. But considering it's CNN I'm sure viewers at home think the crowd is bought and paid anti-Trump.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 02:44:43
December 16 2015 02:43 GMT
#53224
Funny enough, that actually was critizised. That, on a climate conference, the countries talked about, well, climate, instead of terrorism.

Proxy pooped out, was my first GOP show. I'm pretty convinced that i didn't see a future president there.

edit:

Yeah, maybe. It's just, after watching this "stuff" for like 45 minutes or so now, i get even less how people can cheer for anything they say. Literally 90% of that is either complete bullshit, or an answer to a question that wasn't even asked.
On track to MA1950A.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18258 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 02:47:02
December 16 2015 02:44 GMT
#53225
Wasn't ISIS in San Bernardino? That's the whole problem. And while the US can definitely bar all Syrian and Iraqi IPs from US networks, does Trump really not know that they don't need the US servers to communicate, and that even if they do there are things called proxies.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23848 Posts
December 16 2015 02:46 GMT
#53226
So are they not even going to mention the 9/11 1st responders bill?

And we're supposed to take them seriously?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 02:51:38
December 16 2015 02:49 GMT
#53227
Trump continues to maintain that since people kill us we should kill their families. Gotta hand it to him for his stubborness. I have no idea why Christie is pushing this narrative of "I'm a great executive," I think his campaign staff might have told him to do it.

I'm pretty sure Saudi Arabia trusts Obama a hell of a lot more than most of the people on that stage, Christie.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 16 2015 02:51 GMT
#53228
these are on-topic words coming out of carson's mouth, but somehow they're completely incomprehensible
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 16 2015 02:52 GMT
#53229
Please stop calling ISIS a caliphate lol
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 16 2015 02:54 GMT
#53230
On December 16 2015 11:52 jalstar wrote:
Please stop calling ISIS a caliphate lol


In what way is it not a caliphate? Other than no true scottsman arguments.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 02:59:26
December 16 2015 02:58 GMT
#53231
On December 16 2015 11:54 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 11:52 jalstar wrote:
Please stop calling ISIS a caliphate lol


In what way is it not a caliphate? Other than no true scottsman arguments.


I think the main argument the U.N. and Muslims in general have brought is that just declaring you're a caliphate isn't enough, the caliphate needs to actually be supported by the entire Muslim community. This is what separates the historical ones from the ones history does not really regard as caliphates.

Like, if I declared my house a caliphate, it wouldn't be a caliphate.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 16 2015 02:59 GMT
#53232
Christie Christie Christie. Can't take him seriously after this (This is him courting a wealthy donor I don't care about the team). Leave strong arming to Trump.



rip passion
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:01:34
December 16 2015 03:00 GMT
#53233
No true Scotsman applies more to exceptions from a generality, so I'm slightly confused how it applies.

A caliphate kind of needs to be ruled by a caliph. While al-Baghdadi claims to be a caliph, that claim kind of falls apart when the vast majority of Muslims refuse to acknowledge his legitimacy.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
December 16 2015 03:02 GMT
#53234
Is Trump pushing for big government infrastructure investment? Not the time, Donald.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 16 2015 03:02 GMT
#53235
Anyone who uses the phrase "No True Scotsman" is a bumbling parrot.

Trump is the man. I hope he gets the nomination.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 16 2015 03:02 GMT
#53236
"I am a Republican so I can't spend money on infrastructures" - iCarly Fiorina
rip passion
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 16 2015 03:03 GMT
#53237
I have no idea how Fiorina expected that statement to work against Trump
Yargh
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 16 2015 03:03 GMT
#53238
On December 16 2015 12:02 Deathstar wrote:
"I am a Republican so I can't spend money on infrastructures" - iCarly Fiorina


iCarly was a good show, and connecting Miranda Cosgrove to Carly Failorama is doing her a disservice.
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zf
Profile Joined April 2011
231 Posts
December 16 2015 03:03 GMT
#53239
On December 16 2015 12:02 IgnE wrote:
Anyone who uses the phrase "No True Scotsman" is a bumbling parrot.


Thank you!
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:10:12
December 16 2015 03:07 GMT
#53240
Let's force regime change in Iran because they're at war with us? What the hell is Cruz talking about?

I think Rand's family is cheering really loudly for him.
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