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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:07:14
August 26 2015 16:06 GMT
#44721
On August 27 2015 01:00 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 00:58 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:56 Plansix wrote:
I reported it to the moderators. Please do not be a disrespectful asshole and post stuff like that. No one gives a shit how edgy you are trying to be.

I took it down and left a link to the story. Is that kosher?

I really shouldn't have to explain to you that the comment afterwords is pretty shit. But you seem to be set on being a nihilistic.

If you take life really seriously, it ceases to be funny. Enforcing silence is never a good thing. Making a joke to lighten the situation is.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
August 26 2015 16:06 GMT
#44722
Shooter has killed himself.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:08:20
August 26 2015 16:07 GMT
#44723
That saved some time, I guess. At least no one else was hurt. And now the report of him being a quite loner that kept to himself in the next couple of days.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 26 2015 16:09 GMT
#44724
Supposedly the shooter was from the same station, and some people are saying it's a relationship motive - the reporter and cameraman were in a relationship together.
Yargh
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:17:43
August 26 2015 16:12 GMT
#44725
On August 27 2015 01:06 RCMDVA wrote:
Shooter has killed himself.


Still has a pulse..

Dude couldn't even kill himself.

On August 27 2015 01:09 JinDesu wrote:
Supposedly the shooter was from the same station, and some people are saying it's a relationship motive - the reporter and cameraman were in a relationship together.


And no they weren't. She was dating some other worker in the workplace.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
August 26 2015 16:12 GMT
#44726
On August 27 2015 01:06 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:00 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:58 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:56 Plansix wrote:
I reported it to the moderators. Please do not be a disrespectful asshole and post stuff like that. No one gives a shit how edgy you are trying to be.

I took it down and left a link to the story. Is that kosher?

I really shouldn't have to explain to you that the comment afterwords is pretty shit. But you seem to be set on being a nihilistic.

If you take life really seriously, it ceases to be funny. Enforcing silence is never a good thing. Making a joke to lighten the situation is.


Not everything in life needs to be funny. There is a time and a place. There are enough funny things in life that we don't need to lighten up someone being shot to death.
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:15:40
August 26 2015 16:14 GMT
#44727
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 26 2015 16:17 GMT
#44728
On August 27 2015 01:12 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:06 RCMDVA wrote:
Shooter has killed himself.


Still has a pulse..

Dude couldn't even kill himself.

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:09 JinDesu wrote:
Supposedly the shooter was from the same station, and some people are saying it's a relationship motive - the reporter and cameraman were in a relationship together.


And no they weren't. She was dating some other worked in the workplace.


Gotcha, thanks for the correction.
Yargh
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 26 2015 16:21 GMT
#44729
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

As normal, I have no idea what you are talking about and you seem to be rambling about the horrors of being there being consequences to not respecting other people.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 26 2015 16:25 GMT
#44730
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

you seriously lack empathy and intelligence if you think pc culture is responsible for a mentally unstable man who thinks shooting people for racist comments is ok
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:26:14
August 26 2015 16:25 GMT
#44731
On August 27 2015 01:21 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

As normal, I have no idea what you are talking about and you seem to be rambling about the horrors of being there being consequences to not respecting other people.

Williams tweeted after alleging Parker had made "racist comments" about him.

The shooter used that as a justification for killing two people in cold blood. That is not ok.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 26 2015 16:26 GMT
#44732
this runs much deeper than pc culture... pc culture is more of a lighter symptom of the same underlying tension, but it itself is definitely not the cause
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 26 2015 16:28 GMT
#44733
On August 27 2015 01:25 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

As normal, I have no idea what you are talking about and you seem to be rambling about the horrors of being there being consequences to not respecting other people.

Show nested quote +
Williams tweeted after alleging Parker had made "racist comments" about him.

The shooter used that as a justification for killing two people in cold blood. That is not ok.

I am unsure if you are trolling or delusional. We don't know why he did it, only what he said.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 26 2015 16:32 GMT
#44734
I'm trying to figure out exactly when we stopped judging people to simply be crazy when they do heinous things, and when we started bending over backwards to suss out some kind of justification or rationale for the heinous acts.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 26 2015 16:34 GMT
#44735
On August 27 2015 01:32 xDaunt wrote:
I'm trying to figure out exactly when we stopped judging people to simply be crazy when they do heinous things, and when we started bending over backwards to suss out some kind of justification or rationale for the heinous acts.

justifications and rationales can be crazy, but sometimes they can be telling of something regardless

unfortunately, i'd say most people glean the wrong messages from attempting to analyze such things... mostly people just uphold their own biases
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
August 26 2015 16:37 GMT
#44736
My main question is what this has to do with US Politics, rather than just "fucked up things that happen to have happened in the US". People get murdered all the time, for the most inane reasons. This one happened to be captured on TV, other than that, it is no more or less fucked up than other murders. I don't think it was a political statement. It was just some lunatic with a gun. Now you can maybe restart the endless discussion over gun control laws, but other than that, let the justice system deal with it and lets move on?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22365 Posts
August 26 2015 16:38 GMT
#44737
On August 27 2015 01:32 xDaunt wrote:
I'm trying to figure out exactly when we stopped judging people to simply be crazy when they do heinous things, and when we started bending over backwards to suss out some kind of justification or rationale for the heinous acts.

When the number rose to such heights that people started looking for an underlying cause.

"There is nothing we could have done" says the only nation where it happens on a regular basis.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 26 2015 16:39 GMT
#44738
i suspect the main reason it's being discussed here is nobody made a thread for it, but people wanted to post about it anyway.

yeah it's not a very good topic for this thread, probably.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:41:40
August 26 2015 16:39 GMT
#44739
Also just calling them "crazy" is an easy out. They could be completely lucid in their desire to kill others. We label folks like this as crazy because its easier to assume they are broken and that is was caused the violence. It also makes it easier to to convince ourselves that we couldn't have done anything and it was beyond our control. Trying to figure out if we could have stopped it is harder and might expose how we failed. Not to say every violent act like this could be prevented, but we seem accept that we couldn't much earlier.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:43:02
August 26 2015 16:39 GMT
#44740
On August 27 2015 01:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:25 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

As normal, I have no idea what you are talking about and you seem to be rambling about the horrors of being there being consequences to not respecting other people.

Williams tweeted after alleging Parker had made "racist comments" about him.

The shooter used that as a justification for killing two people in cold blood. That is not ok.

I am unsure if you are trolling or delusional. We don't know why he did it, only what he said.

So the shooter included that they made racist statements for no reason? That was his motive. The PC movement contributed to this motive, thus the PC culture has blood on its hands. Someone offending you dose not give you the right to kill them.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
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