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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 26 2015 16:43 GMT
#44741
On August 27 2015 01:39 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:25 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

As normal, I have no idea what you are talking about and you seem to be rambling about the horrors of being there being consequences to not respecting other people.

Williams tweeted after alleging Parker had made "racist comments" about him.

The shooter used that as a justification for killing two people in cold blood. That is not ok.

I am unsure if you are trolling or delusional. We don't know why he did it, only what he said.

So the shooter included that they made racist statements for no reason? That was his motive. The PC movement contributed to this motive, and the PC culture has blood on its hands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

Your reasoning for that needs a lot of work.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:49:00
August 26 2015 16:45 GMT
#44742
i'm going to put it this way: black people hating white people for doing bad things to / believing bad things about black people long predates pc culture

people killing people for similar reasons long predates pc culture as well, and arguably "white people started it" (totally questionable statement but parts of america have an ugly history of things like lynching and shit)

blaming pc culture for this is as lazy and misleading as blaming terrorist attacks for "extremist culture" with zero thought into how extremism itself is bred
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:52:05
August 26 2015 16:48 GMT
#44743
On August 27 2015 01:43 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:39 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:25 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

As normal, I have no idea what you are talking about and you seem to be rambling about the horrors of being there being consequences to not respecting other people.

Williams tweeted after alleging Parker had made "racist comments" about him.

The shooter used that as a justification for killing two people in cold blood. That is not ok.

I am unsure if you are trolling or delusional. We don't know why he did it, only what he said.

So the shooter included that they made racist statements for no reason? That was his motive. The PC movement contributed to this motive, and the PC culture has blood on its hands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

Your reasoning for that needs a lot of work.

Your right. There is no correlation. The shooter was just crazy. Problem solved.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 26 2015 16:51 GMT
#44744
I'm glad I got the "treats people with respect" addon. It makes whatisthisasheep's arguments look properly shitty for this at least.

The shooter *clearly* had a mental illness. Anyways, he claims he was called a monkey by the TV station and fired-- if true, that's straight up racism and is way, way down the spectrum of "PC culture" which is a label that only really applies to a fringe group of extremists.

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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44440 Posts
August 26 2015 16:52 GMT
#44745
On August 27 2015 01:39 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:25 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

As normal, I have no idea what you are talking about and you seem to be rambling about the horrors of being there being consequences to not respecting other people.

Williams tweeted after alleging Parker had made "racist comments" about him.

The shooter used that as a justification for killing two people in cold blood. That is not ok.

I am unsure if you are trolling or delusional. We don't know why he did it, only what he said.

So the shooter included that they made racist statements for no reason? That was his motive. The PC movement contributed to this motive, thus the PC culture has blood on its hands. Someone offending you dose not give you the right to kill them.

Murder is also politically incorrect. In fact it's even more politically incorrect than racism. If the killer had been more politically correct he would have thought to himself "killing these two people is unlikely to go down well with certain key voting demographics, maybe I'll just kiss a baby and let people have rides in my helicopter".

I don't think you know what political correctness is.
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
August 26 2015 16:52 GMT
#44746
I would argue that if you go and kill two people you have to be crazy.

A lot of people get angry about something and in their minds they think about killing the guy for like 10 seconds, then they realize it would be stupid. To go and plan an assassination you need to have something wrong in your head.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:55:25
August 26 2015 16:54 GMT
#44747
On August 27 2015 01:48 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:43 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:39 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:25 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

As normal, I have no idea what you are talking about and you seem to be rambling about the horrors of being there being consequences to not respecting other people.

Williams tweeted after alleging Parker had made "racist comments" about him.

The shooter used that as a justification for killing two people in cold blood. That is not ok.

I am unsure if you are trolling or delusional. We don't know why he did it, only what he said.

So the shooter included that they made racist statements for no reason? That was his motive. The PC movement contributed to this motive, and the PC culture has blood on its hands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

Your reasoning for that needs a lot of work.

Your right. There is no correlation. You win and the shooter was just crazy. Problem solved.

No, only that your argument was garbage and filled with personal bias about "PC culture". Also, that culture has been around from before the term politically correct was became popular again in the 90s. And people have been railing against that culture from before the phrase was coined.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
August 26 2015 16:54 GMT
#44748
On August 27 2015 01:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm glad I got the "treats people with respect" addon. It makes whatisthisasheep's arguments look properly shitty for this at least.

The shooter *clearly* had a mental illness. Anyways, he claims he was called a monkey by the TV station and fired-- if true, that's straight up racism and is way, way down the spectrum of "PC culture" which is a label that only really applies to a fringe group of extremists.


How come Japenesse Americans, Eastern Indians, and Jews dont respond as violently when racial slurs are hurled their way?
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 26 2015 16:56 GMT
#44749
On August 27 2015 01:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm glad I got the "treats people with respect" addon. It makes whatisthisasheep's arguments look properly shitty for this at least.

The shooter *clearly* had a mental illness. Anyways, he claims he was called a monkey by the TV station and fired-- if true, that's straight up racism and is way, way down the spectrum of "PC culture" which is a label that only really applies to a fringe group of extremists.


How come Japenesse Americans, Eastern Indians, and Jews dont respond as violently when racial slurs are hurled their way?

Do you really need that answered for you?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44440 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 16:59:05
August 26 2015 16:56 GMT
#44750
On August 27 2015 01:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm glad I got the "treats people with respect" addon. It makes whatisthisasheep's arguments look properly shitty for this at least.

The shooter *clearly* had a mental illness. Anyways, he claims he was called a monkey by the TV station and fired-- if true, that's straight up racism and is way, way down the spectrum of "PC culture" which is a label that only really applies to a fringe group of extremists.


How come Japenesse Americans, Eastern Indians, and Jews dont respond as violently when racial slurs are hurled their way?

Because they're too PC, clearly. They're terrified that bullets might offend people. But the constant assault on political correctness has now claimed its first two victims. Trump has blood on his hands, blood on his whatever.
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
August 26 2015 16:56 GMT
#44751
On August 27 2015 01:39 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:25 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:14 whatisthisasheep wrote:
A posted that article to highlight the dark side of PC culture people choose to champion. If anybody says something that can be construed as racist, they can be marked for death.

As normal, I have no idea what you are talking about and you seem to be rambling about the horrors of being there being consequences to not respecting other people.

Williams tweeted after alleging Parker had made "racist comments" about him.

The shooter used that as a justification for killing two people in cold blood. That is not ok.

I am unsure if you are trolling or delusional. We don't know why he did it, only what he said.

So the shooter included that they made racist statements for no reason? That was his motive. The PC movement contributed to this motive, thus the PC culture has blood on its hands. Someone offending you dose not give you the right to kill them.


What? Even without the "PC Movement," he would have been pissed off if what he said happened actually happened. Jumping from being pissed off to being calculatingly murderous is a leap only the mentally ill can make, and that has nothing to do with "PC Culture."

By your twisted logic, the victim is responsible for her own death for making racist comments, but I don't see anyone (reasonable) making that claim. THAT would be the PC Culture you so despise being...despicable. Fortunately for the rest of us in the real world, it doesn't exist.

This happens every time a shooting occurs. "Being bullied doesn't give you the right to kill someone." "Being dumped doesn't give you the right to kill someone." "Being called a monkey doesn't give you the right to kill someone." The logical conclusion in almost all cases is that the person was wrong for responding to insult with injury. That will be no different in this case.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#44752
It also assumes that the shooter was telling the truth about that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 17:05:50
August 26 2015 17:03 GMT
#44753
On August 27 2015 01:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm glad I got the "treats people with respect" addon. It makes whatisthisasheep's arguments look properly shitty for this at least.

The shooter *clearly* had a mental illness. Anyways, he claims he was called a monkey by the TV station and fired-- if true, that's straight up racism and is way, way down the spectrum of "PC culture" which is a label that only really applies to a fringe group of extremists.


How come Japenesse Americans, Eastern Indians, and Jews dont respond as violently when racial slurs are hurled their way?


It's not about race, it's about someone being crazy

Craziness transcends race (just like bad logic)

Re: your other post:

K, so ISIS kills people, thus Islam has blood on its hands
A guy with a gun kills people, therefore the NRA has blood on it's hands
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
August 26 2015 17:05 GMT
#44754
On August 27 2015 01:56 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm glad I got the "treats people with respect" addon. It makes whatisthisasheep's arguments look properly shitty for this at least.

The shooter *clearly* had a mental illness. Anyways, he claims he was called a monkey by the TV station and fired-- if true, that's straight up racism and is way, way down the spectrum of "PC culture" which is a label that only really applies to a fringe group of extremists.


How come Japenesse Americans, Eastern Indians, and Jews dont respond as violently when racial slurs are hurled their way?

Do you really need that answered for you?

America threw all japanesse americans in internment camps and dropped 2 nukes on their home country 70 years ago and now they are prospering in america
6 Millions Jew were systematically killed 70 years and now they are prospering in america
Eastern Indians had to deal with the caste system and overpopulation and are now prospering in america.
Why is america so picky about who they are racist toward?
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 26 2015 17:05 GMT
#44755
In other news...

The majority of Republican voters in the first caucus and primary states are voicing their support for a GOP presidential candidate who backs marijuana reform.

The new poll from the advocacy group Marijuana Majority finds that 67 percent of Republican voters in New Hampshire and 64 percent in Iowa want the next president to loosen federal enforcement of marijuana laws.

The poll marks an emerging shift in opinion for Republicans voters, many of whom have traditionally favored strong drug laws.
The changes are reflected by the growing number of GOP politicians — from congressmen and senators to presidential candidates — who are getting behind marijuana reform.

While many states have moved to legalize medical and recreational marijuana, the federal government still prohibits its use. This has created a political paradox for pot dealers and users in these states.

The Obama administration has taken steps to ease the enforcement of marijuana laws in reform-minded states, but has yet to formally change federal policy. This has led to sporadic marijuana arrests in these states, pot advocates say.

“Since marijuana reform is so hugely popular with voters, taking these actions before he leaves office would be a serious legacy booster for the president,” said Tom Angell, chairman of Marijuana Majority.

According to the poll, Republican voters believe the next president should do more to respect state marijuana laws without interfering.


Source
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 26 2015 17:08 GMT
#44756
On August 27 2015 02:05 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:56 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm glad I got the "treats people with respect" addon. It makes whatisthisasheep's arguments look properly shitty for this at least.

The shooter *clearly* had a mental illness. Anyways, he claims he was called a monkey by the TV station and fired-- if true, that's straight up racism and is way, way down the spectrum of "PC culture" which is a label that only really applies to a fringe group of extremists.


How come Japenesse Americans, Eastern Indians, and Jews dont respond as violently when racial slurs are hurled their way?

Do you really need that answered for you?

America threw all japanesse americans in internment camps and dropped 2 nukes on their home country 70 years ago and now they are prospering in america
6 Millions Jew were systematically killed 70 years and now they are prospering in america
Eastern Indians had to deal with the caste system and overpopulation and are now prospering in america.
Why is america so picky about who they are racist toward?

What does that have to do with the shooting again?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 17:13:45
August 26 2015 17:12 GMT
#44757
On August 27 2015 02:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 02:05 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:56 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm glad I got the "treats people with respect" addon. It makes whatisthisasheep's arguments look properly shitty for this at least.

The shooter *clearly* had a mental illness. Anyways, he claims he was called a monkey by the TV station and fired-- if true, that's straight up racism and is way, way down the spectrum of "PC culture" which is a label that only really applies to a fringe group of extremists.


How come Japenesse Americans, Eastern Indians, and Jews dont respond as violently when racial slurs are hurled their way?

Do you really need that answered for you?

America threw all japanesse americans in internment camps and dropped 2 nukes on their home country 70 years ago and now they are prospering in america
6 Millions Jew were systematically killed 70 years and now they are prospering in america
Eastern Indians had to deal with the caste system and overpopulation and are now prospering in america.
Why is america so picky about who they are racist toward?

What does that have to do with the shooting again?

An african american person took exception to racial slur and decided to kill people because of it. People make racial slurs about jews and easten indians and japanesse all the time but they dont go around shooting people because they are NOT offended.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
August 26 2015 17:17 GMT
#44758
So we should bomb all blacks, maybe also throw them in internment camps, and then in a few decades, they will prosper in the US.

Am I doing it right?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 17:20:47
August 26 2015 17:18 GMT
#44759
On August 27 2015 02:12 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 02:08 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 02:05 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:56 Plansix wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm glad I got the "treats people with respect" addon. It makes whatisthisasheep's arguments look properly shitty for this at least.

The shooter *clearly* had a mental illness. Anyways, he claims he was called a monkey by the TV station and fired-- if true, that's straight up racism and is way, way down the spectrum of "PC culture" which is a label that only really applies to a fringe group of extremists.


How come Japenesse Americans, Eastern Indians, and Jews dont respond as violently when racial slurs are hurled their way?

Do you really need that answered for you?

America threw all japanesse americans in internment camps and dropped 2 nukes on their home country 70 years ago and now they are prospering in america
6 Millions Jew were systematically killed 70 years and now they are prospering in america
Eastern Indians had to deal with the caste system and overpopulation and are now prospering in america.
Why is america so picky about who they are racist toward?

What does that have to do with the shooting again?

An african american person took exception to racial slur and decided to kill people because of it. People make racial slurs about jews and easten indians and japanesse all the time but they dont go around shooting people because they are NOT offended.

Once again, this assumes he was telling the truth. And that he wouldn't have done the same thing if she insulted him without using a racial slur.

On August 27 2015 02:17 mahrgell wrote:
So we should bomb all blacks, maybe also throw them in internment camps, and then in a few decades, they will prosper in the US.

Am I doing it right?

I think that he is implying that the Politically Correct Cabal is training angry black men to shoot people who use racial slurs. This proof of this is the shooters tweets, which we all know are the most reliable evidence around.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
August 26 2015 17:23 GMT
#44760
On August 27 2015 02:18 Plansix wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 02:17 mahrgell wrote:
So we should bomb all blacks, maybe also throw them in internment camps, and then in a few decades, they will prosper in the US.

Am I doing it right?

I think that he is implying that the Politically Correct Cabal is training angry black men to shoot people who use racial slurs. This proof of this is the shooters tweets, which we all know are the most reliable evidence around.


but the other "races" don't do it, because they were bombed/interned/suffered in other ways...

So maybe that is the way to heal them.
But maybe it is my mistake, trying to understand his line of thought
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